Pulling a Wiggins

[EnacheV]

Not related but it becomes increasingly annoying to read "Sir B..." on all english websites including team sky official website

Pulling a Sir Wiggins = getting a truckload of money, fame and a sir

I want some to but it's only for a chosen few.

When Cobo will be Sir Cobo only than you can say he pulled a wiggins.

 

[Ferminal]

Yeh, I demand that the mighty bruiser is listed as "Graeme Brown OAM".

 

[RownhamHill]

So Wiggins might be an f and g. Gilbert a/c, and g. Contador c, d, and g. Cobo a/c, f and g. Evans g with a fraction of f. Historically the dominant factor may have been variations on d, but we haven't really seen action on this front in recent years, unless it's coming in the form of taps on the shoulder from Uncle Pat.

But surely Wiggins might also be a c, or a d or an e or an h? Just as Evans might equally be a c, or a d, or whatever. As might Contador.

Or all of them might have kept on with exactly the same programmes as the previous year, but some other factors (injury, lack of motivation, overtraining, other people improving, whatever) meant their relative performance wasn't as good.

Or all of them might have been clean, with some other factors affecting their performance.

One thing I can say for sure; all the epo/blood transfusions/aicar/GW whatever in the world wouldn't have helped Wiggins descending in the Giro after he fell off, or prevented his mechanical in the time-trial, or helped him HTFU when it rained.

 

[Ferminal]

Sure, they all could be anything, but I'm not going to say that unless I can explain it (you are welcome to try!). Trying to assign some labels was simply based on what I feel I can give some explanation for.

Or all of them might have kept on with exactly the same programmes as the previous year, but some other factors (injury, lack of motivation, overtraining, other people improving, whatever) meant their relative performance wasn't as good.

I never said otherwise, was just focusing on the doping factor as that was what the line of discussion was about.

 

[the sceptic]

Pulling a Wiggins = becoming fat and bone idle after winning a grand tour. (see also Aitor Gonzalez)

 

[roundabout]

Not related but it becomes increasingly annoying to read "Sir B..." on all english websites including team sky official website

Pulling a Sir Wiggins = getting a truckload of money, fame and a sir

I want some to but it's only for a chosen few.

When Cobo will be Sir Cobo only than you can say he pulled a wiggins.

Cobo got a 2 year contract with a team that by all logic should not have signed him.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

The irony of this thread is Wiggins hasn't pulled a Wiggins yet, particularly if he goes out and wins the ITT Worlds, but then this place has never been big on facts.

Pulling a Cobo would be far more accurate, but then you wouldn't be able to sneer as much.

So, jimmy he didn't win the itt...has he pulled a wiggins now?

 

[Netserk]

So, jimmy he didn't win the itt...has he pulled a wiggins now?

He could still win Beijing

 

[EnacheV]

This thread is ridiculous. But i guess it's not always trolling when it's right direction trolling.

So much 1 year wonder this guy, i bet there are many like him. Like Cobo right ?

In fact, except the few guys that won TdF 5+ times, i find it hard to found someone with a better, or to say complete in multiple categories, palmares.

For the smarties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Wiggins

Bradley, kicking *** since 1998.


1998
1st Jersey rainbow.svg Individual pursuit, Junior Track World Championships
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit, Commonwealth Games
2000
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit, Track World Championships
2nd Six Days of Grenoble (with Rob Hayles)
3rd Bronze medal.svg Team pursuit, Olympic Games
2001
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit, Track World Championships
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Cinturón a Mallorca

1st Stages 1 (ITT) & 2

1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Flèche du Sud

1st Stage 1

3rd Overall Tour of Rhodes
2002
Commonwealth Games

2nd Silver medal blank.svg Individual pursuit
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit

2nd Six Days of Ghent (with Matthew Gilmore)
3rd Bronze medal blank.svg Team pursuit, Track World Championships
2003
Track World Championships

1st Jersey rainbow.svg Individual pursuit
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit

1st Stage 1 (ITT) Tour de l'Avenir
1st Six Days of Ghent (with Matthew Gilmore)
2004
Olympic Games

1st Gold medal.svg Individual pursuit
2nd Silver medal.svg Team pursuit
3rd Bronze medal.svg Madison (with Rob Hayles)

2005
1st Stage 2 (ITT) Circuit de Lorraine
1st Stage 8 Tour de l'Avenir
7th Time trial, Road World Championships
2007
Track World Championships

1st Jersey rainbow.svg Individual pursuit
1st Jersey rainbow.svg Team pursuit

1st Stage 1 (ITT) Four Days of Dunkirk
1st Prologue Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré
1st Stage 4 (ITT) Tour du Poitou-Charentes
1st Duo Normand (with Michiel Elijzen)
Jersey red number.svg Combativity award Stage 6 Tour de France
10th Time trial, Road World Championships
2008
Olympic Games

1st Gold medal.svg Individual pursuit
1st Gold medal.svg Team pursuit

Track World Championships

1st Jersey rainbow.svg Individual pursuit
1st Jersey rainbow.svg Team pursuit
1st Jersey rainbow.svg Madison (with Mark Cavendish)

2009
1st MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Time Trial Championship
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Herald Sun Tour

1st Stage 5 (ITT)

1st Stage 1 (TTT) Tour of Qatar
1st Stage 3b (ITT) Three Days of De Panne
3rd Overall Tour de France
2010
1st MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Time Trial Championship
1st Stage 1 (TTT) Tour of Qatar
Giro d'Italia

1st Stage 1 (ITT)
Held Jersey pink.svg Pink Jersey for Stage 2

3rd Overall Vuelta a Murcia
2011
1st MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Road Race Championship
1st Jersey yellow-bluebar.svg Overall Critérium du Dauphiné
1st Stage 4 (ITT) Bayern-Rundfahrt
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Time trial, Road World Championships
3rd Overall Paris–Nice
3rd Overall Vuelta a España

Held Jersey red.svg Red Jersey from Stages 11–15

2012
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Tour de France

1st Stages 9 (ITT) & 19 (ITT)

1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Paris–Nice

1st Jersey green.svg Points classification
1st Stage 8 (ITT)

1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Tour de Romandie

1st Stages 1 & 5 (ITT)

1st Jersey yellow-bluebar.svg Overall Critérium du Dauphiné

1st Stage 4 (ITT)

1st Gold medal.svg Time trial, Olympic Games
3rd Overall Volta ao Algarve

1st Stage 5 (ITT)

2013
1st Jersey gold.svg Overall Tour of Britain

1st Stage 3 (ITT)

1st Stage 7 (ITT) Tour de Pologne
1st Stage 2 (TTT) Giro d'Italia
5th Overall Giro del Trentino

1st Stage 1b (TTT)

5th Overall Volta a Catalunya
2nd Men's World Time Trial

 

[the sceptic]

lol

your trolling is as bad as Wiggins without the juice

 

[Zam_Olyas]

This thread is ridiculous. But i guess it's not always trolling when it's right direction trolling.

So much 1 year wonder this guy, i bet there are many like him. Like Cobo right ?

In fact, except the few guys that won TdF 5+ times, i find it hard to found someone with a better, or to say complete in multiple categories, palmares.

For the smarties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Wiggins

Bradley, kicking *** since 1998.


1998
1st Jersey rainbow.svg Individual pursuit, Junior Track World Championships
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit, Commonwealth Games
2000
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit, Track World Championships
2nd Six Days of Grenoble (with Rob Hayles)
3rd Bronze medal.svg Team pursuit, Olympic Games
2001
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit, Track World Championships
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Cinturón a Mallorca

1st Stages 1 (ITT) & 2

1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Flèche du Sud

1st Stage 1

3rd Overall Tour of Rhodes
2002
Commonwealth Games

2nd Silver medal blank.svg Individual pursuit
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit

2nd Six Days of Ghent (with Matthew Gilmore)
3rd Bronze medal blank.svg Team pursuit, Track World Championships
2003
Track World Championships

1st Jersey rainbow.svg Individual pursuit
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team pursuit

1st Stage 1 (ITT) Tour de l'Avenir
1st Six Days of Ghent (with Matthew Gilmore)
2004
Olympic Games

1st Gold medal.svg Individual pursuit
2nd Silver medal.svg Team pursuit
3rd Bronze medal.svg Madison (with Rob Hayles)

2005
1st Stage 2 (ITT) Circuit de Lorraine
1st Stage 8 Tour de l'Avenir
7th Time trial, Road World Championships
2007
Track World Championships

1st Jersey rainbow.svg Individual pursuit
1st Jersey rainbow.svg Team pursuit

1st Stage 1 (ITT) Four Days of Dunkirk
1st Prologue Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré
1st Stage 4 (ITT) Tour du Poitou-Charentes
1st Duo Normand (with Michiel Elijzen)
Jersey red number.svg Combativity award Stage 6 Tour de France
10th Time trial, Road World Championships
2008
Olympic Games

1st Gold medal.svg Individual pursuit
1st Gold medal.svg Team pursuit

Track World Championships

1st Jersey rainbow.svg Individual pursuit
1st Jersey rainbow.svg Team pursuit
1st Jersey rainbow.svg Madison (with Mark Cavendish)

2009
1st MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Time Trial Championship
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Herald Sun Tour

1st Stage 5 (ITT)

1st Stage 1 (TTT) Tour of Qatar
1st Stage 3b (ITT) Three Days of De Panne
3rd Overall Tour de France
2010
1st MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Time Trial Championship
1st Stage 1 (TTT) Tour of Qatar
Giro d'Italia

1st Stage 1 (ITT)
Held Jersey pink.svg Pink Jersey for Stage 2

3rd Overall Vuelta a Murcia
2011
1st MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Road Race Championship
1st Jersey yellow-bluebar.svg Overall Critérium du Dauphiné
1st Stage 4 (ITT) Bayern-Rundfahrt
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Time trial, Road World Championships
3rd Overall Paris–Nice
3rd Overall Vuelta a España

Held Jersey red.svg Red Jersey from Stages 11–15

2012
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Tour de France

1st Stages 9 (ITT) & 19 (ITT)

1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Paris–Nice

1st Jersey green.svg Points classification
1st Stage 8 (ITT)

1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Tour de Romandie

1st Stages 1 & 5 (ITT)

1st Jersey yellow-bluebar.svg Overall Critérium du Dauphiné

1st Stage 4 (ITT)

1st Gold medal.svg Time trial, Olympic Games
3rd Overall Volta ao Algarve

1st Stage 5 (ITT)

2013
1st Jersey gold.svg Overall Tour of Britain

1st Stage 3 (ITT)

1st Stage 7 (ITT) Tour de Pologne
1st Stage 2 (TTT) Giro d'Italia
5th Overall Giro del Trentino

1st Stage 1b (TTT)

5th Overall Volta a Catalunya
2nd Men's World Time Trial

Read the ****ing op again.

 

[EnacheV]

lol

your trolling is as bad as Wiggins without the juice

lol

your trolling is as bad, with or without any juice

 

[EnacheV]

Read the ****ing op again.

seriously, you just become the 2nd on my ignore list

you only post 1 liners that aren't even funny

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Thank you so much.

 

[pedaling squares]

This thread is ridiculous. But i guess it's not always trolling when it's right direction trolling.

So much 1 year wonder this guy, i bet there are many like him. Like Cobo right ?

In fact, except the few guys that won TdF 5+ times, i find it hard to found someone with a better, or to say complete in multiple categories, palmares.

For the smarties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Wiggins

Bradley, kicking *** since 1998...

I fear that your post advanced the argument for the opposition.

 

[EnacheV]

I fear that your post advanced the argument for the opposition.

Opposition has no arguments

Thread start with "After juicing his performance to levels unseen in his career, Wiggins now cannot be bothered to ever try for a grand tour again."

It's a ridiculous attempt at a comedy thread.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

So much 1 year wonder this guy, i bet there are many like him. Like Cobo right ?

In fact, except the few guys that won TdF 5+ times, i find it hard to found someone with a better, or to say complete in multiple categories, palmares.

Yeah, he is the Real Mc Coppi.

Only difference, those guys did track on the side, in the winter, so they could make an extra buck/dollar

But, second is not bad, back to his 2011 TT'ing it looks.

 

[The Cobra]

@antmccrossan: ''Brad rode 450 watts majority of the way and 500 near the finish''

How does this compare with sort of numbers Wiggins was claiming to be pushing last year?

 

[Afrank]

This thread is ridiculous. But i guess it's not always trolling when it's right direction trolling.

So much 1 year wonder this guy, i bet there are many like him. Like Cobo right ?

In fact, except the few guys that won TdF 5+ times, i find it hard to found someone with a better, or to say complete in multiple categories, palmares.

For the smarties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Wiggins

Bradley, kicking *** since 1998.

How do his results dating back to 1998 have anything to do with the topic? The things that make Wiggins a perfect example of a rider doing exceptionally well one year and then barely anything the next year has to do with Wiggins 2012 and 2013 seasons. Not his entire palmares.

Last year Wiggins won everything from stage races, to time trial stages, to the Tour. This year he pulled out of the Giro, has said he could never do another GT, and won the Tour of Britain and silver in the worlds TT. Compared to what he did the previous year, I'd say that is quite a drop off and entirely in line with what "pulling a Wiggins" means.

 

[The Hitch]

Bare in mind 1998- 2008 was allegedly the era of massive doping.

Of course 2009 when Wiggins came 4th -3rd in the Tour was also a year of massive massive doping with practically the entire top 10 being caught or linked in some way, but of course no one is ever going to point that out to sky so they are free to ignore that contradiction.

 

[LaFlorecita]

lol

your trolling is as bad as Wiggins without the juice

Ouch... BURN!!

 

[RownhamHill]

Bare in mind 1998- 2008 was allegedly the era of massive doping.

Of course 2009 when Wiggins came 4th -3rd in the Tour was also a year of massive massive doping with practically the entire top 10 being caught or linked in some way, but of course no one is ever going to point that out to sky so they are free to ignore that contradiction.

So you're saying that really he's the rightful winner of two tours?

(That was a joke.)

 

[Catwhoorg]

Bare in mind 1998- 2008 was allegedly the era of massive doping.

Of course 2009 when Wiggins came 4th -3rd in the Tour was also a year of massive massive doping with practically the entire top 10 being caught or linked in some way, but of course no one is ever going to point that out to sky so they are free to ignore that contradiction.

Just going to run down, for clarity.

1. Contador - Clen positive
2. Schleck A -
3. Lance - LOL Stripped so
3. Wiggo -
4. Schelck F - Positive Test
5. Kloden - Freiburg Allegations (not proven)
6. Nibali -
7. CVV - Admitted
8. Kreuzinger -
9. Le Mevel -
10. Casar -

Schleck A and Nibali certainly have allegations against them that I am aware of. Obviously Wiggo is discussed here a lot.
Anything concrete about Kreuzinger, Le Mevel and Casar ?

Two positives and Two admissions (counting Lance). Lots of allegations.

 

[Netserk]

Just going to run down, for clarity.

1. Contador - Clen positive
2. Schleck A -
3. Lance - LOL Stripped so
3. Wiggo -
4. Schelck F - Positive Test
5. Kloden - Freiburg Allegations (not proven)
6. Nibali -
7. CVV - Admitted
8. Kreuzinger -
9. Le Mevel -
10. Casar -

Schleck A and Nibali certainly have allegations against them that I am aware of. Obviously Wiggo is discussed here a lot.
Anything concrete about Kreuzinger, Le Mevel and Casar ?

Two positives and Two admissions (counting Lance). Lots of allegations.

1. Contador - Clen positive
2. Schleck A -
3. Lance - LOL Stripped so
4. Wiggo -
5. Schelck F - Positive Test
6. Kloden - Freiburg Allegations (not proven)
7. Nibali - Seen with Ferrari
8. CVV - Admitted
9. Kreuziger - Worked with Ferrari
10. Le Mevel -

 

[hrotha]

For the record, Kreuziger wasn't merely seen. He admitted to working with Ferrari.