Pulling a Wiggins

[Benotti69]

He would be a perfect fit at bmc: hasbeen

or he could get an Aussie passport and win a TdF on the BMC program

 

[sittingbison]

wtf else is he going to do, take the kids to school and head to the pub?

Lets be realistic here Ferminal. Ill fix that for you....at no extra charge

wtf else is he going to do, head to the pub?

 

[martinvickers]

Unlikely, if he does follow through with his stated plan and aim for Rio in 2016.

I'll be stunned if he doesn't go back to track. However much some residents here look down on track, he cares about it. He might be silly to, but it's obvious he does. There's an outside chance, I suppose, that he might try and defend the ITT in Rio, but my guts says he rejoins the team pursuit - who, frankly, are looking ropey at the moment.

(Apparently Kennaugh wants to do the TP as well, and Cav is sniffing around the omnium. I don't, however see either of those two happening - PK's recent win, and now leadership at Pais Vasco in absence of Froome and Porte (and Henao) seems to say either future GC, or future superdom. And Cav earns far too much money to take a year and a half off on a mad punt like an omnium.)

A fifth gold or an eighth medal would set him up nicely for the semi retirement of a sports celeb. Pending retesting of samples, of course

 

[The Hitch]

A year and a half? Wiggins did the full 21 stages of the giro d Italia, kronplatz, mortirolo, marmolada, 10 weeks before his 2008 Olympic track gold. Thomas the same and same again in 2012. Wiggins needed only a few weeks to go from **** climber to worlds greatest cyclist in 09 ( if one thinks he was clean that is, since everyone else that tour sure as hell was doped to the gills). Why would cav need one and a half years?

Edit, and I don't get who the - Wiggins will do the track, essay was meant to persuade. Your guts say he will do the track. Eh well he's already announced that's what he will do. Most either expect it already or don't care. No one is arguing hell be back to the itt, as great as it would be to see him go full regard in it aged 36.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Why would cav need one and a half years?

He wouldn't, as you rightly point out.

It's a strawman aligned with the "Wiggo concentrated on the track" excuse for his years of groupetto results in the years where he raced all of 6 x 4 = 24km in pursuits.

 

[oldcrank]

Why would cav need one and a half years?

To earn Olympic qualification points, my friend.
The events and the Olympic qualification system
have both changed drastically since 2008.

 

[Catwhoorg]

To earn Olympic qualification points, my friend.
The events and the Olympic qualification system
have both changed drastically since 2008.

This.

AND BC have said that it will require a 18-24 month track first commitment from the riders to even be considered. (though that's at least in part due to the qualification changes)

Sky will of course be accommodating to this, not sure any other pro team can afford to do so.

Wiggo for the TP, and be a flat stage dom/ITT specialist for Sky.

 

[oldcrank]

He wouldn't, as you rightly point out.

It's a strawman aligned with the "Wiggo concentrated on the track" excuse for his years of groupetto results in the years where he raced all of 6 x 4 = 24km in pursuits.

Sir Brad did 6x4km in four days in Beijing 2008, my friend.

 

[oldcrank]

I'll be stunned if he doesn't go back to track. However much some residents here look down on track, he cares about it. He might be silly to, but it's obvious he does. There's an outside chance, I suppose, that he might try and defend the ITT in Rio, but my guts says he rejoins the team pursuit - who, frankly, are looking ropey at the moment.

(Apparently Kennaugh wants to do the TP as well, and Cav is sniffing around the omnium. I don't, however see either of those two happening - PK's recent win, and now leadership at Pais Vasco in absence of Froome and Porte (and Henao) seems to say either future GC, or future superdom. And Cav earns far too much money to take a year and a half off on a mad punt like an omnium.)

A fifth gold or an eighth medal would set him up nicely for the semi retirement of a sports celeb. Pending retesting of samples, of course

Yes, my friend, he does care about the track...
as does the whole family. Dave and Liz run the
Knowsley track league, Cath won at the Masters
Track Nationals in 2012 and the velodrome is a
good environment for the kids as well.

 

[oldcrank]

I'll be stunned if he doesn't go back to track. However much some residents here look down on track, he cares about it. He might be silly to, but it's obvious he does. There's an outside chance, I suppose, that he might try and defend the ITT in Rio, but my guts says he rejoins the team pursuit - who, frankly, are looking ropey at the moment.

(Apparently Kennaugh wants to do the TP as well, and Cav is sniffing around the omnium. I don't, however see either of those two happening - PK's recent win, and now leadership at Pais Vasco in absence of Froome and Porte (and Henao) seems to say either future GC, or future superdom. And Cav earns far too much money to take a year and a half off on a mad punt like an omnium.)

A fifth gold or an eighth medal would set him up nicely for the semi retirement of a sports celeb. Pending retesting of samples, of course

Yes, my friend, now an omnium rider from a country that also
qualifies for the team pursuit would have to be part of the
team pursuit squad as well, because of the changes to
the Olympic qualifications and riders per nation quota.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

There's an outside chance, I suppose, that he might try and defend the ITT in Rio...

Very outside chance as the IPP is not an Olympic event. Or has it been reinstated?

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

He wouldn't, as you rightly point out.

It's a strawman aligned with the "Wiggo concentrated on the track" excuse for his years of groupetto results in the years where he raced all of 6 x 4 = 24km in pursuits.

This isn't a defence of Wiggo, though undoubtedly you will take it as one, but the TP requires very different training to the road. The sheer speed of it nowadays rules out a lot of riders. After the first 2 laps, they average 65kmh, and drafting and favourable atmospherics notwithstanding, that takes some serious leg speed given the need to ride gear small enough to enable some decent pace in the first 2 laps. They don't go much slower than kilo riders, and kilo training is very specific indeed even in the context of track riding.

When Thomas came back to focus on the track after the 2011 road season, it took him so long to get back into it that he very nearly didn't make the cut for the WCs in early 2012 as he simply wasn't fast enough. So the likelihood is that after a sustained period focusing on the road, it would take anyone several months of track work to be competitive in the TP.

Going back to Wiggo, note that this argument relates to going from road to track, not the other way round.

 

[timmers]

Very outside chance as the IPP is not an Olympic event. Or has it been reinstated?

He is talking about the road ITT which he won in London. The likelihood of doing track and road is very remote unless you are from a minor country.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

He is talking about the road ITT which he won in London. The likelihood of doing track and road is very remote unless you are from a minor country.

Oops - I read the comment as IP vs TP!

 

[martinvickers]

A year and a half? Wiggins did the full 21 stages of the giro d Italia, kronplatz, mortirolo, marmolada, 10 weeks before his 2008 Olympic track gold. Thomas the same and same again in 2012. Wiggins needed only a few weeks to go from **** climber to worlds greatest cyclist in 09 ( if one thinks he was clean that is, since everyone else that tour sure as hell was doped to the gills). Why would cav need one and a half years?

Edit, and I don't get who the - Wiggins will do the track, essay was meant to persuade. Your guts say he will do the track. Eh well he's already announced that's what he will do. Most either expect it already or don't care. No one is arguing hell be back to the itt, as great as it would be to see him go full regard in it aged 36.

You need to not let your bile do your posting.

1. The 1 1/2 year figure involves qualification and related directly to Cav, not Wiggins. If you read first and ranted later, you'd have known that. The TP boys can qualify without Wiggins, who could still drop in with minimal fuss, especially given how crap they currently are. No way is Ed Clancy going round looking for omnium points just to let Cavendish take his solo spot. Apples and pears.

2. The 'essay' wasn't for you. So im not overly bothered if you don't care for it.

3. Plenty of people will care whether wiggins goes for gold 5 on the track come 2016. You're polish, and you hate the guy, and you have little regard for track, so I wouldn't frankly expect you to be one of them, but to try and argue it will not be of interest to a goodly number of people who are british, and/or like the guy/ and or follow and enjoy track (and yes, I fall in category 3)is facetious self regard masquerading as opinion.

4. Wiggins can't be trusted to keep to a plan longer than he wears a pair of pants. Hence why others were mentioning his 'next, last big contract', and ideas about BMC.

One might suspect the only reason you really posted at al was to indulge your existing dislike of certain other posters, as well as Wiggins.

One might...

 

[martinvickers]

Oops - I read the comment as IP vs TP!

No problem. Rather stunned/amused at the level of bile/ill informed sneering for what's basically little more than an information point on the rider's possible future post Sky contract. You'd think certain posters are just looking an excuse to vent, nearly...

 

[TailWindHome]

He is talking about the road ITT which he won in London. The likelihood of doing track and road is very remote unless you are from a minor country.

Or trying to get round the bizarre team eligibility rules.

http://inrng.com/2012/07/olympics-sprint-farce/

 

[oldcrank]

Or trying to get round the bizarre team eligibility rules.

http://inrng.com/2012/07/olympics-sprint-farce/

Yes, my friend, this also high-lights the importance and value that
traditional cycling nations place on Olympic track cycling medals,
an importance and value that some newcomers to the sport of
cycling, or those that just followed Lance, do not fully comprehend.

 

[Digger]

Yes, my friend, this also high-lights the importance and value that
traditional cycling nations place on Olympic track cycling medals,
an importance and value that some newcomers to the sport of
cycling, or those that just followed Lance, do not fully comprehend.

Do people seriously think there is a comparable talent pool between track cycling and road?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Do people seriously think there is a comparable talent pool between track cycling and road?

Did you actually read what he wrote? I am going to go with a 'No'.

 

[Digger]

Did you actually read what he wrote? I am going to go with a 'No'.

Not about what 'he' wrote...I see it time and again the Wiggins defenders use track as a way of saying he didn't come out of nowhere...and I ask again does anyone seriously think both talents pools are similar..

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Yes, my friend, this also high-lights the importance and value that
traditional cycling nations place on Olympic track cycling medals,
an importance and value that some newcomers to the sport of
cycling, or those that just followed Lance, do not fully comprehend.

Important because it's the measure by which the national sporting body gets any funding at all. No medals = no more pay!!

And look what DB managed to change a few plastic medals into : Sky million$$$.

Win, win, win. Who cares how we get there!!

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Not about what 'he' wrote...I see it time and again the Wiggins defenders use track as a way of saying he didn't come out of nowhere...and I ask again does anyone seriously think both talents pools are similar..

If it was not about what he wrote then why quote him?

 

[Digger]

If it was not about what he wrote then why quote him?

Do you actually have a reply to my question

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Important because it's the measure by which the national sporting body gets any funding at all. No medals = no more pay!!

And look what DB managed to change a few plastic medals into : Sky million$$$.

Win, win, win. Who cares how we get there!!

Just about money? Really? Strange then that so many countries and sports where there is no funding feel it is so important and carries so much prestiege.

Try and take off the blinkers once in a while.