Until last year G would never have been thought of as even a favourite for the podium.Pantani Attacks said:Yeah to be fair to Thomas, he looked destroyed after the TT, Julian looked fine. Madness.
This pretty much sums up what I am thinking right now.Midnightfright said:He seemed to get a lot of moto help today. I wonder how much that mattered.Koronin said:What is he on? This is feeling like the early/mid 2000's. When do we get are next major doping scandal?
I share your worry but at the moment it is still Alaphillipe at his very best although eye brow raising. I will be more surprised if he finishes in the last group tomorrow. Especially because you know Ineos are going to set a nasty tempo.
luckyboy said:Looking tired or ok after a stage has never been any indicator of being clean or not to be fair.
This is his body, and he can do whatever he wants to it. He can push it. Study it. Tweak it. Listen to it. Everybody wants to know what he's on. He's on his bike busting his *** six hours a day. What are you on?Koronin said:What is he on? This is feeling like the early/mid 2000's. When do we get are next major doping scandal?
LOL. AwesomeRollthedice said:This is his body, and he can do whatever he wants to it. He can push it. Study it. Tweak it. Listen to it. Everybody wants to know what he's on. He's on his bike busting his *** six hours a day. What are you on?Koronin said:What is he on? This is feeling like the early/mid 2000's. When do we get are next major doping scandal?
So? I distinctly remember some very doped riders puking their guts out after the finish. Indeed, there are also shots when after the adrenaline rush Alapolak sits down at the side of the road, probably not that steady on his feet anymore. That euphoria was a huge adrenaline rush, almost certainly not some roid-rage (if so we will know very soon as that is indeed very detectable^^).macbindle said:They had both just hammered it up a hill at the end of a time trial. One hopped of his bike and walked around cheering with no sign of having gone into the red...luckyboy said:Looking tired or ok after a stage has never been any indicator of being clean or not to be fair.
....and the other looked knackered, barely able to stand.
Historically, late transformations are pretty much exclusive to dopers. Berzin, Chiappucci, Riis, Armstrong... all dopers. I know Wiggins, Froome and Thomas haven't been popped yet, but it's pretty obvious what they are doing considering you can hardly see the race through all the smoke billowing out of that team. If a rider suddenly transforms it's synonymous with doping, in my opinion. It's happened too many times with riders that eventually got caught or admitted to doing it that I'm willing to believe in miracles when the next one comes along. A natural progression doesn't mean a rider is definitely clean, but it's much, much more probable that they are than the Instant Aliens™.silvergrenade said:Never understood why transformations are such a big thing. A talent slowly progressing vis a vis a talent who transformed massively doesn't prove or disprove doping by any stretch of imagination. European talent has been known to dope very very early in their careers.F_Cance said:Should be time to talk about Asgreen. This is a Sky rider like transformation.
No he said "a team" bought for 100k, also that 80 percent of the teams where using ketones, i dont know why ketones are such a big deal, they have been in use for a few yearsscapewalker said:Armstrong mentioned on his podcast that QS bought $100k worth of ketones for the tour.
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Says who? You? :lol:Franklin said:So? I distinctly remember some very doped riders puking their guts out after the finish. Indeed, there are also shots when after the adrenaline rush Alapolak sits down at the side of the road, probably not that steady on his feet anymore. That euphoria was a huge adrenaline rush, almost certainly not some roid-rage (if so we will know very soon as that is indeed very detectable^^).macbindle said:They had both just hammered it up a hill at the end of a time trial. One hopped of his bike and walked around cheering with no sign of having gone into the red...luckyboy said:Looking tired or ok after a stage has never been any indicator of being clean or not to be fair.
....and the other looked knackered, barely able to stand.
Much reason to be ridiculing this performance (as in pretty certain to be doped considering the team), but the state of how riders cross the line has never been an indicator.
The "flat" part contained a 17% "berg" in it.Mayomaniac said:He didn't loose time to Thomas on the flat part, that's the thing.macbindle said:It wasnt a flat time trial so not sure what the fuss is about. I think he'll pay heavily for his time in yellow, in the coming days.
Now if he doesn't crack...then there will be a discussion to be had.
That's something utterly different than him roaring after the finish wouldn't you say? Unless you can point out where I said that I found his performance okay? All I stress that Julian having an adrenaline rush after crushing everyone else is in itself not an indicator of doping. Dopers get tired to... and clean riders can get an adrenaline rush as well.macbindle said:That was a 17% hill he had just sprinted up like it wasnt there.
Alaphilippe was 6 seconds ahead at chrono 2, 5 seconds ahead at chrono 3 and roughly 6 seconds ahead with 1km to go.rghysens said:The "flat" part contained a 17% "berg" in it.Mayomaniac said:He didn't loose time to Thomas on the flat part, that's the thing.macbindle said:It wasnt a flat time trial so not sure what the fuss is about. I think he'll pay heavily for his time in yellow, in the coming days.
Now if he doesn't crack...then there will be a discussion to be had.
LMFAO. Personal attack as my argumentation is rather solid and you fail to find a single post where I say this is a normal performance? Reflect on what you want to attain with that post. Do you want a serious disussion? Or is anyone who has a different interpretation of events someone to be attacked?macbindle said:Not a bike rider, are you.
Funny how people who claim to be critical about doping treat Armstrong as a reliable source.scapewalker said:Armstrong mentioned on his podcast that QS bought $100k worth of ketones for the tour.
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Today was pretty ... interesting!therealthing said:Viviani dropping climbers now it seems...
You mean with Yates or Alaphillipe holding on so well?Ripper said:Today was pretty ... interesting!therealthing said:Viviani dropping climbers now it seems...
funny how law enforcement agencies use informantsPantani_lives said:Funny how people who claim to be critical about doping treat Armstrong as a reliable source.scapewalker said:Armstrong mentioned on his podcast that QS bought $100k worth of ketones for the tour.
Looks like they were all for Allaphilipe![]()
We hate them though.gillan1969 said:funny how law enforcement agencies use informantsPantani_lives said:Funny how people who claim to be critical about doping treat Armstrong as a reliable source.scapewalker said:Armstrong mentioned on his podcast that QS bought $100k worth of ketones for the tour.
Looks like they were all for Allaphilipe![]()
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