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Is it just me, or is the beta for tracks4bikers now worse than it previously was? It's now refusing to let me adjust tracks as I try to take in hills, insisting on going by the fastest route from A to B; when I drag the race route to where I WANT it to go, it then vanishes and goes back to the previous route. Previously with the beta I was annoyed at having to drop A and B points and then link them to the road THEN adjust them as I wished, but at least they would adjust to the route I wanted them to.
 
The new beta is a joke. I have no idea how to work with the waypoints (maybe I do, but if it is the way i think it is, it would take forever to come up something decent.)

For now I am using mapmyride.com, though I do not like how the profiles look.
 
BigMac said:
The new beta is a joke. I have no idea how to work with the waypoints (maybe I do, but if it is the way i think it is, it would take forever to come up something decent.)

For now I am using mapmyride.com, though I do not like how the profiles look.

Previously with the beta, you'd drop your waypoints, put them on the roads, then hit the OK button. It would give you your route, and then you could drag it to your hearts' content to fix the route to what you wanted. You could then look at the profile, then make amendments as you wish, so although much slower and more time-consuming, it did at least get to the point that we were at with the old version.

On the last couple of attempts, however, I'll drop my waypoints, put them on the roads, hit the OK button, then I have a limited number of moves away from the automatic route it gives me (which often will be nothing like the route I'm planning as it only allows for 7 waypoints). And so once I have part of a route, it will refuse to take anything but the fastest route between two points, and it will not allow me to add more points between them. Then, if I hit the profile button, it fixes the track and it cannot be modified any longer. Which is highly frustrating and removes all of the advantages that tracks4bikers originally had.

I used to use mapmyride.com exclusively, until it decided that the entire nations of Germany, Switzerland and Austria were not mappable.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
Previously with the beta, you'd drop your waypoints, put them on the roads, then hit the OK button. It would give you your route, and then you could drag it to your hearts' content to fix the route to what you wanted. You could then look at the profile, then make amendments as you wish, so although much slower and more time-consuming, it did at least get to the point that we were at with the old version.

On the last couple of attempts, however, I'll drop my waypoints, put them on the roads, hit the OK button, then I have a limited number of moves away from the automatic route it gives me (which often will be nothing like the route I'm planning as it only allows for 7 waypoints). And so once I have part of a route, it will refuse to take anything but the fastest route between two points, and it will not allow me to add more points between them. Then, if I hit the profile button, it fixes the track and it cannot be modified any longer. Which is highly frustrating and removes all of the advantages that tracks4bikers originally had.

That is even worse than I thought. I think it is pointless to try then. Apparently the upload feature is down as well, so the site is practically useless atm.

I used to use mapmyride.com exclusively, until it decided that the entire nations of Germany, Switzerland and Austria were not mappable.

That must have been some time ago. You can map those three countries now :)

Switzerland is painful to map though, because of the usual profile irregularities caused by tunnels (small compared to T4B.com).
 
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I was just reading through Cam Wurf's blog about a training ride he and Richie Porte did on Porte's birthday, 400km in NE tasmania. During which time they covered a road under construction which was described as a cross between strade bianche and roubaix feeling road. Is there any scope for road races in Australia incorporating these type of sectors?
 
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Oh, and despite all the coding done to "fix" Tracks4Bikers (which is now a hundred times worse than before), the site creator still didn't get rid of the 200km limit. Nor even bumped it up to 300km (because most traceurs never get above this limit).

T4B is dead, I use Openrunner now. Even if it gives gradients quite precisely, we are forced to do the math to check a climb length and steepness. Also you need to register to save tracks and get elevation profiles, and you need to re-save the route if you do an update to get the new profile.

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I think that I got it to work and post. Almost gave up. Here's my 2017 TdF route, a very long TdF with some classic stages plus tributes to Paris-Roubaix, D-Day, L'Alpe on Bastilla Day, followed by a monster stage. Finally, a real Tour de France, not a "grab money from your neighbors and miss half of France."

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Date Day Stage Start Finish Dist. Km Details
7/1/2017 Sat 1 Strasbourg Luxembourg 205
7/2/2017 Sun 2 Sedan Roubaix 257 Same last 100K as 2013 Paris-Roubaix starting at Denain with la Trouee d'Arenberg
7/3/2017 Mon 3 Lille Rouen 219
7/4/2017 Tue 4 Rouen Carentan 213 D 514 from Courseulles to Grandcamp Maisy along the beaches of D-Day. Tribute on the 4th of July
7/5/2017 Wed 5 St. Brieuc Nantes 196
7/6/2017 Thu 6 Nantes Poitiers 179
7/7/2017 Fri 7 Poitiers Bordeaux 249
7/8/2017 Sat 8 Agen Hautacam 199 96 16th stage, Riis & The Clinic
7/9/2017 Sun 9 St. Gaudens Pl. de Beille 168 01 14th stage.
7/10/2017 Mon REST
7/11/2017 Tue 10 Brive Puy de Dome 198 69 20th stage
7/12/2017 Wed 11 Clermont Fd. Mende 194
7/13/2017 Thu 12 Mende Mt. Ventoux 220
7/14/2017 Fri 13 Nimes Gap 246 86 16th stage
7/15/2017 Sat 14 Gap L'Alpe d'Huez 187 06 15th stage
7/16/2017 Sun 15 Grenoble Col du Jandri 204 98 15th stage, with paved Cold du Jandri (ASO has $ - why don't they pave it? :)) - alternate les 2 Alpes, 15K shorter
7/17/2017 Mon REST
7/18/2017 Tue 16 Les 2 Alpes La Plagne 180 02 16th stage
7/19/2017 Wed 17 Aime Cluse 142 02 17th stage
7/20/2017 Thu 18 Geneve Besancon 210 Via Gex, Col de la Faucille, Mont Poupet in Salins. Two or more nasty short climbs between Arguel and Montfaucon with less than 10K to go.
7/21/2017 Fri 19 Baume-les-Dames Pl. Belles Filles 207 Detour by the Noirmont
7/22/2017 Sat 20 Langres ITT 62
7/23/2017 Sun 21 Versailles Paris 134
TOTAL 4069 km
 
Ronde van Vlaanderen

I tried to design a Ronde with gpsies and it worked quite well. It's not as great as tracks4bikers was, but you can work with it. As i am sick and tired of the Oude Kwaremont my Ronde doesn't include it. It goes without saying that there are no kermesse-like loops with multiple uses of some climbs either.

The final 80 km:


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Brügge
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Zottegem
1 Kortedries
2 Berendries
3 Valkenberg
Haaghoek (kassei)
4 Armekleie
5 Molenberg (kassei)
Kerkgate (kassei)
Ruiterstraat (kassei)
6 Volkegemberg
Holleweg (kassei)
7 Eikenberg (kassei)
8 Taaienberg (kassei)
9 Nieuwe Kruisberg/Oudestraat (kassei)
Hotond
Watermolenstraat (kassei)
10 Kalkhoveberg (kassei, this is the Rampe of Watermolenstraat)
11 Paterberg (kassei)
12 Koppenberg (kassei)
13 Kortekeer
14 Stationsberg (kassei)
Steenbeekdries (kassei, descent)
Mariaborrestraat (kassei)
Oudenaarde

At the top of the Stationsberg there are 4 km left to go. The final 100 m are slightly uphill (it's the beginning of the Edelareberg), as was the case in Ninove.

I'd like to recommend the wonderful resource of http://www.klimtijd.nl including their map of the Vlaamse Ardennen.
 
Netserk said:
http://www.bikeroutetoaster.com has been updated, and it works really well! The best one atm imho.

The altitude profile is still a bit meh, but not worse than it was before.

edit: atm I think it's also the only one where you can auto-route and manually route on the same track!

You can auto and manually-route on the same track using MapMyRide and RideWithGPS as well. And they are very user friendly and precise. I used to use MMR but since a couple of months ago the profiles, after you save the route, are ****ed up. They get lots of bumps, even on flat segments, and eventually the final elevation gain is trés exagerated.

RideWithGPS seems very accurate, and you're even able to export a good looking profile, but it doesn't give the climb details.

I wonder if T4B will ever come back.
 
fauniera said:
I tried to design a Ronde with gpsies and it worked quite well. It's not as great as tracks4bikers was, but you can work with it. As i am sick and tired of the Oude Kwaremont my Ronde doesn't include it. It goes without saying that there are no kermesse-like loops with multiple uses of some climbs either.

I had a go at trying to create a Ronde some time ago, I ended like you with the Stationsberg/Steenbeekdries, though for me it was a bit further from the finish as I had a bit of a loop around Oudenaarde in order to finish in the Markt, because it's nice and scenic and would let us finish just outside the Centrum Ronde van Vlaanderen. I also had double Kwaremont/Paterberg to keep the current organisers happy.

For me the Hellingen/Kasseistrooken were:

Nokereberg (177km)
Katteberg (163km)
Holleweg (160km)
Molenberg (153km)
Haaghoek (148km)
Leberg (147km)
Berendries (142km)
Kapelmuur (125km)
Bosberg (119km)
Valkenberg (97km)
Haaghoek (92km)
Kruisberg (75km)
Oude Kwaremont (64km)
Paterberg (59km)
Taaienberg (50km)
Eikenberg (44km)
Koppenberg (37km)
Oude Kwaremont (26km)
Paterberg (21km)
Kuitholstraat (18km)
Stationsberg/Steenbeekdries (11km)

There are a couple of deviations that are unnecessary (for example the lengthy detour to include Kapelmuur and Bosberg even though they'd be utter irrelevances to the race result at the distance they are from the finish), and I'm sure without those I could use more flat kasseistrooken near Oudenaarde and beef up the finale, however that's a pretty tough parcours imo. I agree with you on the use of Oude Kwaremont, it seems to be in every race that goes through here, and that's a lot, however I thought I had to do the Oude Kwaremont/Paterberg thing because of the current contract.

Although the race wasn't quite finished when Tracks4bikers hit its current slump, I will probably post up my Paris-Nice that I'd been working on shortly, to draw a bit of a line under the T4B period.
 
OK, after the recent talk about it being in the top 10 races in the world and the upgrades and so forth and so on, and me writing a screed about what the race SHOULD be, I've decided to put my money where my mouth is and post a Tour of Britain route.

My Tour of Britain has no MTF, and only a short ITT, but for me I think it does what I want to see out of a Tour of Britain, and especially with 6 man teams it will be super tough and hard to control. There are eight stages, and as usual large swathes of the country go unused, including some with great potential. I've tried to keep transfers smaller than the race has done in recent years, with only one that ought to be quite long even if it is all on major roads. I've also tried to stay relatively close to urban areas and finish in reasonably large-sized towns and cities, so there is no room for the much-hyped Bealach na Ba.

Stage 1: London - London (ITT), 10,5km

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(Yes, we're back on mapmyride, so there's going to be some sucky profiles headed your way in the near future).

The Tour of Britain normally finishes in London with a crit over a route very similar to this one, however in 2011 and 2014 a split stage including an ITT has been included. I have dispensed with the crit (I dislike them) and started the race with the TT. The route is slightly longer than the normal one because I've made it start and finish on The Mall like the Olympic Road Race, but it does the usual trip up Victoria Embankment to Tower Hill and back via Whitehall. Much like with my final sprint stages in Paris and Madrid, no real need to post up big photos of the sights we go by in this one... London's famous landmarks are well known enough. This is more about London getting a stage as per normal without the intrinsic limitation that comes with having to get the race down there to finish when all the most interesting terrain is some way removed from it.

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Stage 2: Crawley - Bournemouth, 168km

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Climbs:
Tennyson's Lane (cat.2) 2,2km @ 8,0%
Stoner Hill (cat.3) 2,4km @ 5,0%
Cheriton (cat.3) 2,6km @ 3,3%

The first road stage sees a brief trip down into Sussex for a beginning in Crawley. The route passes through Sussex, Hampshire and into Dorset, mostly steering cleer of the South Downs and Surrey Hills ranges, although there are a couple of GPM moments, with by far the most notable of these being an actually genuinely rather tough climb of Tennyson's Lane, which has a maximum gradient of 16%.

Nevertheless, none of these climbs are close to the finish, and all GPM points are dispensed with more than 70km from the finish. After this it is a very fast and flat trek from the port city of Southampton to the finishing city of Bournemouth, home to the highly scenic Poole Harbour and the affluent Sandbanks Peninsula, which has allegedly the fourth highest property values in the world (!!!). We aren't going quite that scenic today, although the last 20km are exposed to the wind, and the riders will at least have the fun of a nice day out by the sea, finishing on the promenade of Undercliff Drive, right next to the beach à la Knokke-Heist or Koksijde-Bad. Although there is the possibility of echelons, this one will most likely go to the sprinters.

It might be the last proper sprinter's stage.

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Stage 3: Portland - Bristol, 152km

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Climbs:
Abbotsbury Hill (cat.2) 1,6km @ 8,6%
Deerleap (cat.2) 2,1km @ 8,9%
Red Hill (cat.3) 3,4km @ 4,5%
Belmont Hill (cat.3) 1,4km @ 7,2%
Rownham Hill (cat,3) 1,0km @ 8,6%

With a short transfer to the peninsular town of Portland, the riders now turn north (thus meaning of course that there will be no Dartmoor in my Tour of Britain, so one of the main spots for hilly stages in the real race will go unused by yours truly) and head for a city which has tried to establish itself as a city of cyclists in years past, Bristol. It's also an important musical city, if not on a par with, say, Liverpool and Manchester, then certainly at least matching up with the likes of Sheffield.

Of course, while yesterday's stage may have been fairly easy, the riders aren't here to talk about music, they're here to race bikes, and here they do so over the shortest road stage of the race. That doesn't mean it's easy though, with 5 categorised climbs to note in today's stage, and except for the opening rise while we're still on the south coast, the nasty Abbotsbury Hill, which has nice views AND 17% gradients, they're all crammed into the last 45km.

Abbotsbury Hill is there in the early going to try to ensure a strong breakaway, because there is a long rolling phase to come, however with only 6-man teams in the Tour of Britain controlling the final third of the stage could be difficult. The important body of the stage begins when the riders reach the Mendip Hills, and take on the narrow, Limburg-like Deerleap climb. I know there are tougher climbs in the Mendips, however there are tougher stages to come; let us pace the riders' difficulties out. At an average of 9% it's the steepest climb of the day, and also the most serious. A flattening out across the crest of the Mendips then a descent offers some recovery time, but with 27km remaining the road starts to turn uphill again. Red Hill is, however, the easiest climb of the day, on nice, wide roads as opposed to the narrow Deerleap, and averaging under 5% (although the final kilometre is at 7%). It is, however, the longest climb of the day at over 3km in length, and at the summit lies a small airport.


Belmont Hill is a bit steeper and also a bit more scenic, and topping out 13,2km from the finish it is a very solid place to base a speculative attack; with Strava suggesting a max of nearly 12% it does offer opportunities even if it is short. It would be easy to go into Bristol from here, but more exciting is the trip via one of our forum members' namesakes - a short but nasty trip up the 1km, maximum 22% grind of Rownham Hill. Since this tops out with just 6km remaining, and it's just a quick crossing of the famous Clifton Suspension Bridge before entering the slightly downhill final few kilometres, there are lots of chances for puncheurs to make a move, but the specialist rouleurs should also be able to keep in good contact; the climb is quite short and the steepest parts are at the bottom, and the stage hasn't really been a sawtooth (certainly there are more hills in and around the Mendips and Bristol I could have used) - just a busy final run-in.

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I was looking at a few race designs, and looking for opinions.

After 170km and 3 categorized climbs combined of about 1500m of climbing, total eleveation gain of 3000m once underlations are counted. Comparing Rodriguez, I'd like to say Sagan, but maybe Degenkolb, Rojas, Meersman, Matthews are better, and Kittel, Cav and Greipel.

Who wins on these finishes
Climb options
1 Up 1.7km at 13.5% down 4.7km at 7.5%
2 Up 5.7km at 7.1% down 6.8km at 7%
3 Up 4.3km at 8.9% down 4.7km at 8.9%
And the flat options at the bottom are 10 20 and 30km.
Of the six options, 1,1 1,2 1,3 2,1 2,2 2,3 3,1 3,2 3,3 who wins each and which is toughest to pick? Could Cancellara win any?
 
Well done on doing a ToB Libertine, I've been waiting for this. I did one last year and have been having a look at a few new routes and tough climbs to make it a tougher race. I hope to have it done in a couple of weeks. I've also started with a short TT around the capital but mine may be a team event.
 
Stage 4: Newport - Swansea, 175km

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Climbs:
Kendon Hill (cat.2) 2,1km @ 6,4%
Galon Uchaf Road (cat.3) 2,4km @ 5,2%
Black Mountain (cat.1) 6,7km @ 5,5%
Waun-Wen Road (cat.3) 0,7km @ 11,0%
Constitution Hill (cat.3) 0,3km @ 16,7%
Constitution Hill (cat.3) 0,3km @ 16,7%
Constitution Hill (cat.3) 0,3km @ 16,7%

In 2010, the Tour of Britain unleashed what was, until that point, its toughest route. The centrepiece of this parcours was the third stage, from Newtown to Swansea, which featured the ascents of Black Mountain and Constitution Hill. Today, I present the péloton with a beefed up version of this stage, and the first stage that I expect to really open up some differences.

After a short transfer from Bristol, we find ourselves in South Wales, where hills and small-to-medium sized mountains are in abundance. Though decisive stages have been in Wales for the last few years, I'm staying away from Caerphilly Castle and bringing the influence of other forms of route to the course. The bigger hills will enforce selectivity, then the small ones at the end will change the game in terms of who the route favours. It's a similar gambit to the one I tried with my Friedensfahrt route from Prague over Keilberg and Teufelstein before ending on a circuit with the Steiler Wand von Meerane.

Although the profile indicates that there are quite a few climbs in the early going, I have only categorised a couple, as many are either too short and too indecisive to count or the gradients are much more gradual than the profile makes them look. Nevertheless, there isn't that much that's truly flat, and the riders will certainly feel their legs hurt when the stage gets to its business end. The categorised climbs early in the stage are Kendon Hill, which maxes out at 18%, and the more gradual slog up through the hillside town of Merthyr Tydfil on Galon Uchaf Road. After this it is rolling all the way through the valleys in the Brecon Beacons mountain range before we get to 70km to go.

With 70k remaining, the rolling terrain ends, and the stage gets serious. Black Mountain was an instant hit when included in the Tour of Britain back in 2010, with its Alpine-style lacets and attractive landscapes it was as near to a Grand Tour-styled climb as the ToB had mustered. It's also quite exposed for additional trouble if the wind is troublesome, however while it may be one of Britain's tougher full length passes, it isn't the Zoncolan or anything. Nevertheless it's a decent length and if ridden hard then the stragglers will have to work hard on the ensuing descent and subsequent flat period to get back into contention before the closing stretches.

After the end of the descent from Black Mountain, there are 25km of flat or gentle descent as we wind our way down through Pontardawe and into Swansea (Abertawe to Welsh-speakers), the erstwhile second city of Wales, for our closing stretch, which all takes place within the city. First we have a short, punchy climb (there is a bit of uphill before and after, but these are mild so I have only categorised the most important 700m of it) up the steep, but absolutely ramrod straight, Waun Wen Road, which tops out 27km from the end. Then there is a descent from the city area of Townhill to the coastline, where after a kilometre or two we turn inland up a couple of rolling roads to our final categorised climb of the day, which will be tackled three times. Again, brought to the Tour of Britain in 2010, Constitution Hill was an instant hit. It is very short but brutally steep on cobbles; while the stats may suggest more Paterberg, the absolutely straight and from flat-to-full-on nature of it perhaps gives it more in common with the most iconic cobbled climb outside of Flanders, the legendary Steiler Wand. However, while slightly shorter than its Course de la Paix companion, Constitution Hill has a steeper average, whilst also being noticeably narrower. This one's brutal.

And, as I say, the riders have to tackle it 3 times on a short circuit towards the end of the stage, passing it with 20km to go, then with 12, and then the final time they crest the 300m of cobbled agony there are just 3,7km remaining (more than double what there was in 2010, but here we have done the climb more times, so the racing should still be tougher). And if it rains again like it did in 2010, this one could be really tough. The Tour of Britain is heating up.

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Stage 5: Stoke-on-Trent - Bradford, 196km

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Climbs:
Swiss Hill (cat.3) 0,7km @ 9,7%
Lane Ends (cat.3) 1,4km @ 5,9%
Holme Moss (cat.2) 4,0km @ 6,9%
Scapegoat Hill (cat.2) 2,1km @ 8,2%
Stainland Road (cat.3) 1,0km @ 10,0%
Woodhouse Lane (cat.3) 0,3km @ 12,7%
Gibb Lane (cat.2) 0,7km @ 11,9%
Windy Bank Lane (cat.3) 1,4km @ 7,8%
Ploughcroft Lane (cat.3) 0,5km @ 13,2%
Trooper Lane (cat.1) 0,7km @ 19,6%
The Hough (cat.3) 0,5km @ 13,0%
Shibden Wall (cat.1) 0,9km @ 14,8%
Haworth (cat.3) 0,5km @ 7,0%
Tim Lane (cat.3) 0,9km @ 9,6%
Thwaites Brow (cat.1) 1,2km @ 10,3%
Hainworth Lane (cat.1) 1,5km @ 10,5%

This is the pretty much undisputed queen stage of the Tour of Britain, and an absolute hell. On the plus side, specialist rouleurs will surely see this as a good opportunity to ensure they are in form for the Worlds if appropriate - as the longest road stage of the Tour this is also the one with the most categorised climbs, with no fewer than SIXTEEN, of which the underlined ten are at least partially cobbled, which must surely bring joy to the heart of precisely nobody who has to actually ride this stage.

After the longest transfer of the race, the riders will set off from regular ToB stop Stoke-on-Trent on their hellacious journey, which could most definitely be considered as a stand-alone one-day classic. The early parts of the stage are fairly benign, to ease the riders into the proceedings and allow a break to form. After about 45km, however, we get our first taste of cobbles as the riders take on Swiss Hill, a short, sharp berg that gives us a taste of what is to come. Its presence here, with 150km remaining, is merely ceremonial. After it we are back to flat terrain south of Manchester before a couple of small hills take us into Glossop, gateway to the Peak District. Turning right here will take us over Snake Pass, a famous British mountain pass, but going straight over takes us to the climb of Holme Moss, another well-known British climb that we will see featured from its other (harder) side in the Tour de France this year. Still, this side has its moments.

After Holme Moss a couple of slopes and uncategorised climbs take us onto our next summit, that of Scapegoat Hill. Another puncheur's climb, the stage rather seems designed for the puncheur at this point, especially when it is followed by a kilometre at 10% up Stainland Road. Indeed, with 80km remaining you'd start to wonder if this is a stage for Purito. But I'm having none of it, for now we arrive at the outskirts of the West Yorkshire town of Halifax, and now it's time for the strongmen to come out and play.

First on our menu of British hellingen, with 72km remaining is the wide open, accessible Woodhouse Lane. The average is 12,7%, but the climb is fairly consistent, and leads onto some mild uphill on wide city roads before a narrow descent.

Next up, with 65km remaining, is the steep, swooping Gibb Lane, a real Vlaamse Ardennen styled climb that gets all the way up to 27% on its inconsistent slopes. This is followed by the tarmacked, comparatively comfortable Windy Bank Lane with 58km remaining. It's still not an easy climb, but the tarmac and the gradients only being around 8% average are more manageable, and it doesn't take a super-tough rouleur to muscle over this one.

Just 3km later, we turn left onto the very straight but tricky Ploughcroft Lane. Averaging 13% for 500m, this is another short but brutal stretch of Kopfsteinpflaster; at the summit we arrive at a dry ski slope, which we approach from the west, and turn south. A GPM banner will be diagonally across the road from southwest to north-east - we will see it from the other side later. We then descend back into Halifax on a couple of wide open roads before hitting potentially the toughest climb of the day.

At 50km remaining, the riders turn left onto an extremely steep and agonizing road with a few sharp bends; according to Strava we are hitting 30% at times. And after 300m of this agony, the road turns to brutal cobbles to rattle the riders' bones some more. The views back into town from the summit showcase just how disgustingly brutal this climb is. Bearing in mind we have 6-man teams here, controlling this race will be nigh on impossible and things could already be an absolute mess by this point; this is a stage for the strongest of strong men only.

Descending from Southowram, the riders will enjoy a very brief respite before just 3km later they hit The Hough, another 500m cobbled stretch (hidden among a longer more gradual climb), albeit in much better condition than Ploughcroft Lane or Trooper Lane. The mostly consistent 13% is pretty tame in comparison to Trooper Lane, which is why I've followed it with another killer. After 3km of descending narrow roads the riders hit the iconic Shibden Wall, an agonising climb used in the Tour of Britain back in the 80s (you can see some Irish guy riding it here). The average is as near as can be to 15%, but it gets higher, reaching up to 25% as riders curse the day that they were born. This is the climb that approaches the dry ski slope from the east, and then turns to the north; going straight on at the summit takes us down Ploughcroft Lane, and if it's wet, descending 13% cobbles is a bad, bad idea. 44km remain at the summit.

At this point, the riders get a bit of a rest. The groups on the road should be splintered all over the place by this point, and so they will relish the chance to have 15 or so kilometres of respite...the feeling of smooth tarmac that isn't slanted uphill at 20% will make them happy. The next climb (which doesn't even show as a climb on mapmyride, it's one of the jagged rises before the last cluster of categorised climbs) is also going to be seen in the Tour de France in July - a comparatively benign stretch of uphill cobbles through the centre of the picturesque village of Haworth. This is to ease us into endgame; 27km remain after this, and it leads almost immediately into another short, sharp ascent, this time on tarmac up Tim Lane. At this point we cross the town of Keighley and the real endgame begins.

It is still possible that at this point no real attacks have come; groups will be splintered more by attrition than anything else (but how attritional this day has been!). But with 19km remaining, the action can be delayed no further. This action comes in the form of Thwaites Brow, one of Britain's most savage cobbled climbs. Cobbles are in poor condition and smoothed over with occasional tarmac blotches on the pavé; once more gradients get over 20%, and though not all of the climb is cobbled, we do have over a kilometre of ascent here where attacks can be made or broken. There's plenty of room for fans and damn, I really want to see this race now. Following on from this there is a brief downhill before our final berg of the day, Hainworth Lane. Only 400-450m of this ascent are on the kasseien, but they are the most important. Yea, sure, the last kilometre or so is still at 9-10% and tarmacked so more puncheur than rouleur, but what are you afraid of, that Purito somehow got over Shibden Wall and Thwaites Brow in the front group?

13km remain at the summit of Hainworth Lane, and no they are not flat. But they aren't exactly destructive either - a descent, then a couple of kilometres uphill at 3-4%, before a similarly shallow downhill towards the line. The final 1,8km are absolutely straight into the centre of Bradford, but again - what are you afraid of, a bunch sprint?

Again, this could be a standalone Classic. The Classics specialists are built for this kind of thing, and a race as hard as this could be an instant favourite in much the same way as Montepaschi Strade Bianche has been almost immediately taken to heart by cycling fans. Though London may have the fans, a race like this would be infinitely more likely to be taken to heart by the sport's fanatics across the globe.

Stoke-on-Trent:
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Bradford:
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