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Race Design Thread

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Stage 7 (Friday): Pau - Hautacam, 200 km

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Climbs:
km 67: Col d'Issarbe cat 1
km 75: Col de Soudet cat 2
km 118: Marie Blanque cat 1
km 154: Col d'Aubisque HC
km 200: Hautacam HC

Short description:
Pau-Hautacam is a classic Tour stage, although it's with a twist since they don't climb Tourmalet today, but head west for the warm-up.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
The summit there is the Soum du Couret de Planté, but it's mostly known as a climb by the name of Issarbe, the ski station just below the summit.
Thanks.

The only profile I could find with it was this (funny enough there wasn't one going this way for col de Soudet, so it was for col de la Pierre-Saint-Martin):

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Stage 8 (Saturday): Lourdes - Arreau, 190 km

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Climbs:
km 95: Port de Balès HC
km 120: Col de Peyresourde cat 1
km 137: Col d'Azet cat 1
km 161: Hourquette d'Ancizan cat 1
km 177: Col d'Aspin cat 1

Short description:
A truly multi-mountain back-to-back stage with no flat in the last 110 km. The final descent of Aspin includes 6 switchbacks and a few bends so it should be possible to stay away alone. The action from the favourites will most likely start on the penultimate climb so expect meaningful gaps.
 
Stage 9 (Sunday): Saint-Gaudens - Rouze, 212 km

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Climbs:
km 87: Port de Lers cat 1
km 148: Col de Chioula cat 1
km 180: Col du Pradel cat 1
km 199: Port de Pailhères HC

Short description:
The most unrealistic stage in this tour as the finishing town is way too small to host Le Tour. The only alternative was to finish on Pailheres, but I really didn't want this stage to end with a MTF (and a long flat ASO run in wasn't even something I could think about). This stage is mostly a celebration of Pailheres (I know it's a new climb, but I like it ;)), and will both be the first time that it is climbed from the west, as well as being the final climb. The first 4.5 km of the descent from Pailheres is with many (19!) switchbacks, but only a few for the rest of the descent.
 
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Le Grand Bornand it's also a very small place. If they got a city like Annecy 20 kms from there it's ok. Same with your stage. Also in the Pyrenees there are some small towns which serve constantly as finish towns.
 
McLovin said:
Le Grand Bornand it's also a very small place. If they got a city like Annecy 20 kms from there it's ok. Same with your stage. Also in the Pyrenees there are some small towns which serve constantly as finish towns.
Ax-les-Thermes is the closes bigger city. (32 km)

Rouze has under 100 citizens.

Example of another town used as stage finish with few citizens: Loudenvielle (260 citizens).

The difference is though that Loudenvielle is a popular tourist resort and the closest town to Val-Louron ski resorts = Money.
Rouze = No money.

EDIT: And Le Grand Bornand has 2.250 citizens and a ski resort = Money
 
Because I also value realism in my fantasy Tour, I have created an alternative stage, where the finish city is of a reasonable size (6.600 citizens) and all roads are race ready.

Alternative Stage: Saint-Girons - Prades (190 km)

Which is also a way worse stage, where a breakaway will take it, and it requires some luck to see gaps between the contenders.

EDIT: The profiles of the first two climbs are in the original stage, and the final climb is Col de Jau
 
Today made me think about a new 2-day stage race as a preparation for the Ardennes classics or the worlds (so it can be organised in late march or late august): Milano - San Remo.

Stage 1: Milano - Ovada, 196 km.

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The race starts at the Castello Sforzesco and cross the plain of the Po river, heading towards Ovada. After 123km the peloton crosses the finishline for the first time and then it has to ride the following lap two times:

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Stage 2: Varazze - San Remo, 196 km.

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It's basically the final of the one-day race Milano-San Remo, but with a some more excursions to the interior.
The following climbs have to be tackled:
Castelvecchio di Rocca Barbena: 10.1km @5.8%
Testico: 9.5km @ 5%
Civezza: 5.2km @ 4.6%
Cipressa:
Pompeiana: 4.2km @ 5.6%
Poggio di San Remo:
 
Time for possibly my most ambitious project yet, as I attempt a three week Deutschland-Tour! Germany is one of only a handful of countries with the right sort of size to do a three week GT where most of the country can be covered, yet the route can change and give us different opportunities every year (unlike, say, my three-week Volta a Portugal, which is comparatively hamstrung by the limitations of the size of the country), especially bearing in mind that with short trips across the border you can have some serious Vosges mountain stages, plus the Swiss and Austrian Alps are close at hand. I have been surprised at how much similarity has been shown between some of my route and Bavarianrider's route from the very early days of the thread. There are a few things that mark this race out as being a bit different to the other GTs. Germany, it may not have escaped your attention, does not possess large quantities of Alps comparable to those of France and Italy, and it finds itself lacking entirely in Pyrenees. This means that while mountain stages (including four summit finishes) are sprinkled liberally around the race, there is a certain focusing of the high mountain stages into fixed areas. Happily, though, the country does love its wintersports, so there are plenty of places that can host said stages. However, there are large swathes of countryside which are mostly flat, and it wouldn't be a real Deutschland Tour without including these. In order to make this as challenging a GT as possible and to enliven these stages (nobody wants a week of continual sprints), I have looked to spice the competition up.

Four jerseys are up for grabs in the race. The first is the General Classification jersey, the obvious one that we are all familiar with. The second is the Points Classification, which will award equal points for all stages. The third is for the Bergkönig, as you might expect, for the rider who has accumulated the most points over the 89 categorised climbs in the race. The fourth jersey is the joker in the pack, the jersey for the Kopfsteinpflasterkönig, or, the King of the Cobblestones. Yes, there will be a number of stretches of cobbles in the race. Many of these will just be easy city-centre cobbles mid-stage, so the troublesome sectors will pay double points. These will award points for the first riders at the exit of cobbled sectors on the route, so it could be an interesting mixture of 'jersey for the breakaway' and 'jersey for the specialist rouleur'.

Over the 21 stages, almost all of the Länder will be covered, with a couple of excursions on to foreign soil. There are three ITTs, zero TTTs, four MTFs, and two 'special attraction' experimental stages with unusual formats.

And the first stage is one of those experimental stages.

Stage 1: Hamburg - Hamburg (Staffel), 9x9,0km

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Kopfsteinpflaster:
Sector 1: Adenauer Allee
Sector 2: Berliner Tor
Sector 3: Steindamm
Sector 4: St Georgstraße

As you may have guessed from previous posts, I am quite interested in the Peace Race. And something that caught my eye when looking through its history is that there were occasionally some unusual stages; 1970 had a points-criterium in Leipzig on the penultimate day, 1971 had two time trials on the same day, one flat one mountainous, and 1981 saw the race open with a "Parallel Time Trial", whatever the hell that is. I'm harking back to 1975, however, when the race opened with the "Staffel der Nationen" - a relay race. In that event over 42km (6 riders on a 7km circuit) each rider was given their own individual time, which seems bizarre, and it meant Hungary's István Szlipcsevics got to wear the leader's jersey on stage two despite Italy actually winning the race.

It often makes for entertaining racing in other sports to see a relay, and in cycling it could well be fun, as teams will need to work out the order of their riders to make best use of the terrain, as after all nobody will have any teammates out there. We will instead see 20-22 riders, each on different teams, take on a 9km circuit around downtown Hamburg, close to the finish of the Vattenfall Cyclassics race. The start/finish/exchange area is in front of the Hamburger Rathaus, with a 300m exchange zone on Reesendamm. After all, if they can get by in a Madison on a 250m track then this should be fine. The first part of the circuit is straight and mostly built for power, but then it gets a bit more technical with a couple of stretches of city centre cobbles (one point only will be available for winning these cobblestone stretches on each lap) and some tight corners, before opening out again. Each rider only has a short ride to do, but bearing in mind nobody will have any teammates it is unlikely that we will see a whole train of riders bringing attackers back; if a strong rider for the terrain like Cancellara goes early in the race for their team, they could well pick up a gap, and then it's up to the rest to chase back their teammates; meanwhile a guy like Cavendish is going to need to police the attacks if they're going on leg 9 and looking for the sprint win, because they have nobody to lead them out or do that work on their behalf. And if it all goes wrong and the racing is ultra conservative, well, the race is only 81km long so it should be over relatively quickly anyhow.

Teams will be scored in the order they arrived and then the jersey will be received by the rider on the winning team who set the fastest lap of the team. The points classification will award points based on the fastest lap regardless of team.

This could be highly artificial, and I wouldn't want it to be anything other than a one-off special attraction type of race, but it makes for something unique and is a bit more interesting than simply beginning with a prologue or TTT.

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Stage 2: Hamburg - Lübeck, 208km

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(final 8km missing from course, but I preferred to leave the last out than the first given the climb at the start and the end will just be equally flat!)

Climbs:
Waseberg (cat.4) 0,8km @ 8,8%

Kopfsteinpflaster:
1) Roonstraße (Elmshorn)
2) Holstenstraße (Kaltenkirchen)
3) Werder- und Steinmetzstraße (Neumünster)
4) Borgdorf-Seedorf
5) Langestraße (Plön)

The first 'normal' stage of the race is a long and flat route through Schleswig-Holstein which travels north towards Kiel before moving to the Land's eastern coast and moving back southeastward towards its finish in Lübeck. The first mountains points of the race are given out early, for the small but famous climb of the Waseberg, key climb of the Vattenfall Cyclassics. Taking the points here will give a rider a few days in a leaders' jersey, so given that the bunch will likely still be in one piece at this point you could see some competition.

After that it's a pretty straightforward stage. There are a few obstacles, in the form of cobbled stretches to deal with, though few are close enough to the finish to produce any kind of devastating action. Roonstraße comes after about 40km, the chaotic Holstenstraße after about 70km, Steinmetzstraße (seen here behind a gentleman complaining about the noise of the cobblestones) after 100, the idyllic Borgdorf-Seedorf after about 120 and finally the cobbled centre of the scenic town of Plön after just over 160km. With 45km from the final stretch to the finish, a bunch sprint will be expected, however riders are going to have to look out for wind in the latter stages, since this area is pretty exposed. The finish comes in the highly picturesque old city of Lübeck, a former capital of the Hanseatic League and still one of Germany's most important ports.

Lübeck:
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My next effort: A sacrilegious Tour of Austria (No Grossglockner and no Kitzbuheler Horn)

Stage 1: Bregenz - Bregenz, 193 km
This stage is a medium mountain stage consisting of three different laps around Bregenz. The third lap is raced twice to include some extra climbing. This stage counts three 2nd category climbs and four 3rd category climbs.

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Stage 2: Feldkirch -Innsbruck, 185km.
This mountain stage crosses some lesser known cols in Tyrolia and Vorarlberg but finishes with a descent in Innsbruck.

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A more demanding alternative would be a finish in Axamer Lizum (finish after a climb of 5km @ 13.7%)
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Stage 3: Innsbruck - Zell am See, 144km
The 3rd stage is a transitional stage and is the first opportunity for the sprinters, although they have to handle a 2nd and 3rd category climb halfway the race.

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2nd part of my Österreich Rundfahrt:

Stage 4: Saalfelden - Bad Kleinkirchheim, 198 km.
This stage is the second mountain stage in this tour of Austria and finishes after a modest climb (2.7km @ 6.7%).

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Here too, there's a thougher alternative. Instead of finishing in Sankt Oswald, there's the possibility of a climb to Falkert, which is both closer to the Schiestelscharte (one but last climb) and a lot more difficult (7.3km @ 10.9%)

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Stage 5: Villach - Graz, 221km.
This stage is designed to give a chance to a breakaway, but if it's raced at a slow pace, the sprinters might have a chance too.

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Stage 6: Eisenstadt - Eisenstadt, 35km
A flat time trial that should be used by the tt'ers to gain some time back on the climbers before the final mountain confrontation.


Stage 7: Eisenstadt - Stuhleck, 176km.
A medium mountain stage, but with the only mtf of the race (if the alternative stages 2 and 4 aren't used).

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Stage 8: Wiener Neustadt - Wien
The final parade, a short ride from the outskirts of Vienna to the town centre, followed by some laps on a 5.5km long circuit.