Rafal Majka discussion thread

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Has he been linked to any team for next year? I wonder if he could get on a team that'll let him ride Tour+Vuelta.
 
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Vino attacks everyone said:
Hugo Koblet said:
How the hell can this guy have a 36 pages thread? That's like Van den Broeck having a 36 pages thread.
Acs main leadout man of course deserves a long and thoughfull discussion :D

Hey hey, you've a point actually :D
 

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Hugo Koblet said:
How the hell can this guy have a 36 pages thread? That's like Van den Broeck having a 36 pages thread.
Why not?Betancur has 102 pages.90 pages are about how many chicken he eats and rest just about how many races he DNF's.
 
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Congratulations on the most uninspired GT/podium challenge I think I have ever seen. :eek:

Probably the only rider in the entire Giro peloton that didn't attack.
 
deValtos said:
Congratulations on the most uninspired GT/podium challenge I think I have ever seen. :eek:

Probably the only rider in the entire Giro peloton that didn't attack.
Yeah I'm a fan of Majka but not being the best climber of the race isn't an excuse to not even try. Kreuziger was never the best climber but that never stoped him from trying to win stages in lots of GT's. Majka is obviously very good but I doubt any team is willing to pay him to focus on GT's like this, it's just ridiculous.

It's embarassing that everyone tried to do something and Majka was following wheels all the time trying nothing. It seems so odd to see him riding for the same team as Contador.

I like him so I really hope he changes his mentality for the future, specially now that a top10 in a GT has no further meaning for his career.
 
Todays biggest wasted effort was Boaro and Poljanski pulling for Majka to do nothing. I guess his form wasn't where it was supposed to be for this Giro, we know what he's capable of when he is in his best shape.
 
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Sorped said:
Todays biggest wasted effort was Boaro and Poljanski pulling for Majka to do nothing. I guess his form wasn't where it was supposed to be for this Giro, we know what he's capable of when he is in his best shape.


What he did in this Giro is what he is capable of ....at top 5 ...his highest point and as high as he will ever go
He got a podium at the Vuelta ...but that was uninspiring as well
So what else is he capable of ?? ....more of the same I'd say


One poster saying why is there so much Makja hate...there is not hate towards the rider . I 'm sure he did his best without doing anything beyond the ordinary.. However I'm posting here to re balance the hype so many on here have subjected the rest of us to about this rider
 
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Majka said yesterday that he didn't have enough power to attack favourites in Giro and he didn't feel well. I think one brave attack could end his hope of top ten. 5th place is the best place for polish rider in history of Giro.
 
Majka and some of his fans seem to think you can only attack if you're feeling stellar and are better than your rivals. That's a recipe for never doing anything ever, and it ignores the whole history of the sport, including what's happening every day before Majka's eyes.
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
How the hell can this guy have a 36 pages thread? That's like Van den Broeck having a 36 pages thread.

I agree, there is so little to say. He is about as meh as it gets when going for GC. Let him stage hunt, then he is worth watching. But he is still young, so I'm probably being to hard on him and he will develop.
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
KGB said:
Hugo Koblet said:
How the hell can this guy have a 36 pages thread? That's like Van den Broeck having a 36 pages thread.
Why not?Betancur has 102 pages.90 pages are about how many chicken he eats and rest just about how many races he DNF's.

Betancur is a legend of cycling.
Well, Majka has a 36 pages thread for various reasons, i.a. because of (i) posts including solely the questions why he has such a thread; (ii) posts including "Majka jokes"; (iii) posts including opinions based on emotions only, such like "what a coward", (iv) posts regarding Betancur, van den Broeck etc. (but not Majka). Not to offend anyone, just an observation.

I agree with those above who said that he had not enough strenght to do anything more, so the best tactics for him was just to hang on with the best as long as he can, without launching suicide attacks. If he is satisfied with the 5th place in the GC, that is fine to me. It shows that at the moment he is not able to fight for higher GC ranks and he knows it. And if he is able to finish a GT 5th in the GC without engaging himself into a single attack in the mountains, that is only good for him, I think.

I also disagree that he should attack at all cost (even bearing in mind that he was a GC contender/GC team leader) when he simply had no legs to do it. His job in this Giro was not to entertain people watching the race - it was to get the highest GC rank possible (which he did, thanks to this ennoying and hardly watchable tactics he has opt for).
 
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hrotha said:
Majka and some of his fans seem to think you can only attack if you're feeling stellar and are better than your rivals. That's a recipe for never doing anything ever, and it ignores the whole history of the sport, including what's happening every day before Majka's eyes.

Yep. This is common knowledge that you should attack when you're barely holding wheel of the favorites group. Do and epic 3 second attack then get dropped and finish 10 minutes behind. Then you will be respected rider on this forum... Or you'll be object of jokes for couple of days... One of those. Of course sponsors will be ecstatic too when you drop of GC competition with one stupid move. This is what they are hoping for. This glorious 3 seconds of being cycling god. Who the hell cares about GC battle presence and team kit exposure.
 
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Arked said:
hrotha said:
Majka and some of his fans seem to think you can only attack if you're feeling stellar and are better than your rivals. That's a recipe for never doing anything ever, and it ignores the whole history of the sport, including what's happening every day before Majka's eyes.

Yep. This is common knowledge that you should attack when you're barely holding wheel of the favorites group. Do and epic 3 second attack then get dropped and finish 10 minutes behind. Then you will be respected rider on this forum... Or you'll be object of jokes for couple of days... One of those. Of course sponsors will be ecstatic too when you drop of GC competition with one stupid move. This is what they are hoping for. This glorious 3 seconds of being cycling god. Who the hell cares about GC battle presence and team kit exposure.

If I didn't follow cycling much and didn't already know what team Majka rode for, I would literally have no idea what the sponsor on his kit was - whenever I saw him, he was behind other riders. All I would know was that he's Polish and rides for a team with the abbreviation 'TNK' from the GC standings that flash up at the end of every stage.

And Nibali wasnt the strongest this Giro and still attacked. Look where he ended up.
 
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Arked said:
Yep. This is common knowledge that you should attack when you're barely holding wheel of the favorites group. Do and epic 3 second attack then get dropped and finish 10 minutes behind. Then you will be respected rider on this forum... Or you'll be object of jokes for couple of days... One of those. Of course sponsors will be ecstatic too when you drop of GC competition with one stupid move. This is what they are hoping for. This glorious 3 seconds of being cycling god. Who the hell cares about GC battle presence and team kit exposure.
Thanks for illustrating my point. For Majka and many of his fans, any moves are stupid unless Majka is the strongest and can beat everyone in a frontal assault.

But see, if he attacked when at his limit and was dropped immediately afterwards, it would certainly be stupid. But it doesn't need to come to that: Majka could actually move before that point, trying to take advantage of the tactical situation and what not. Get a gap while the other contenders watch each other or aren't willing to go near their limit yet. Get ahead. You know, just the same way tons of other riders do it, like, all the time, often with good results.

Virtually everyone else in the top 10 gave it a go at some point. Were they all the strongest at that point? Of course not.
 
Nibali surely was strongest in the last two mountain stages. I know for a fact that Majka wanted to do same thing as Nibali did (which means at least win one stage) but he was simply to weak. Cycling is not only about wanting but also about being able to do what you want. Physiology is too big deal in this sport. You can't do much with good decisions, bravery or even blind luck when you lack basic physical ability. This is not football or any other sport with huge impact of randomness.
 
He had little to lose and he could obviously have done something himself or with his team on Bonette. At the end he lost time to Nibali, Valverde and Uran (way behind in gc) and gained on both Chaves and Kruijswijk. If Bonette had been raced selectively, perhaps Kruijswijk would have cracked, who knows.