Rate the 2011 tour de france route (new thread)

[ak-zaaf]

Then I think it is a bit unfair to hold ACF to such a high standard.

I am impressed that a colonial education system can educate 8 year olds to the point where they can do a reasonable impression of 12 year olds.

Wehehehehe.

Tour Route: 8

10km more ITT-ing and I'd given it a 9.
It's still the Tour de France, there's only so much they can do. If the Tour sucks (and it will) it won't be Pescheux's fault.

 

[Anonymous]

BTW, it would've been obvious what the rating system was once you'd seen ACF vote 2 on his own poll.

You think? That means having at least a slight understanding of just how her/his brain works.

 

[Mich78BEL]

4/10

i want more ITT and longer ones, the Tour has been favoring climbers for too long now

 

[rghysens]

Looks to me as if Prudhomme is determined to load all of the key GC stages into the very back end of the race, in order to build to an exciting finale.
However, in doing this, the danger of having no serious mountain stage until almost the start of week 3, is evident.

like the giro this year, you mean

I give the 2011 tour route a 6.5/10, this year's route got an 8/10 (being much more versatile), this year's giro a 9/10.

 

[nowhereman]

4/10

Same old same old.

I gave it a 5 out of 10 because I agree. Nothing new, same old stuff. I also wanted to see the time bonuses re-instituted. I think the time bonuses are important, and take all the questions away, about why a contender put the hammer down at the closing parts of a stage. Especially if the competitors are tightly bunched. I'm very disappointed in that alone.

 

[jens_attacks]

i gave it a 2.maybe next year.

 

[WinterRider]

Yeah ,but the Passage Du Gois is a made for television carnage just like the last time the riders went over it, the first 15 were fine, everyone else in contention lost the Tour that day.. I rated it at 6 simply because of that stupidity..

I thought I'd read somewhere that the passage is neutralized riding. Was I imagining this?

As for the tour, 7/10. I like the fact that the gc will be close until at least day 12, and I really like the new points structure for the sprints. It will be good to see the bunch having something to do before the finish each day besides reeling in the break. Hopefully the sprint will all be televised live (ie not too close to the start of the stage).

 

[Anonymous]

passage du gois is neutralized and therefore completely pointless

 

[Altitude]

4/10

i want more ITT and longer ones, the Tour has been favoring climbers for too long now

Yeah, that makes for exciting racing. I'd rather ride rollers for 12 hours than watch 3 long ITT's.

 

[Mellow Velo]

like the giro this year, you mean

I give the 2011 tour route a 6.5/10, this year's route got an 8/10 (being much more versatile), this year's giro a 9/10.

Well, strictly speaking, were the Terminillo in the TDF, it would be class as a full MTF and the Giro had it in there at stage 8, although I get the point.
Luckily, they gave us the strada bianche on stage 7, so no one cared!

 

[Barrus]

passage du gois is neutralized and therefore completely pointless

wait, what, why?
I haven't really kept up with the news of the tour, especially when there is news about the giro available every other day

But how did they neutralize passage du gois

 

[Anonymous]

wait, what, why?
I haven't really kept up with the news of the tour, especially when there is news about the giro available every other day

But how did they neutralize passage du gois

they are starting there and the flag goes down after theyve crossed it apparently. deems going there completely pointless. I cant even think of a suitable comparison

 

[jsem94]

I'm giving it a 6/10. It has potential but is likely to turn boring which is the reason for the relatively low rating for a course with such potential

 

[Cobblestoned]

7/10

-1 because there is only one, and relativ short ITT

-1 because there are still no timebonuses again

-1 because of this strange passage du gois idea

 

[Barrus]

they are starting there and the flag goes down after theyve crossed it apparently. deems going there completely pointless. I cant even think of a suitable comparison

That's completely insane and terribly boring. Yeah, you're right, it does sounds like the tour

 

[The Hitch]

That's completely insane and terribly boring. Yeah, you're right, it does sounds like the tour

Also it ruins the atmosphere of having the first stage and presentation in a big city. Like you guys in the Tour AND Giro this year. THat was awesome. EVen in the rain hundreds of thousands on both prologues.

Then the Erasmus Bridge was packed as they did the 10k ceremony before the French national anthem.

Seems a waste to have this in the country side.

 

[Descender]

Yeah, that makes for exciting racing. I'd rather ride rollers for 12 hours than watch 3 long ITT's.

Is it really that hard to understand??

The more time TTlists get off the climbers, the more and the earlier the climbers must attack = more spectacle and excitement.

 

[Barrus]

Also it ruins the atmosphere of having the first stage and presentation in a big city. Like you guys in the Tour AND Giro this year. THat was awesome. EVen in the rain hundreds of thousands on both prologues.

Then the Erasmus Bridge was packed as they did the 10k ceremony before the French national anthem.

Seems a waste to have this in the country side.

To be quite honest I don't even mind that, that much. Although I agree, it would have been fun ( I would like to see the tour to start in Paris and than return there as well). But it is more that it completely destroys the reason why you would include the stage at all.

Realy this makes me even more disappointed with the route

 

[Descender]

If you're gonna put just one ITT, at least make it long (55+km) and before the mountains so the differences are bigger and the climbers are forced to attack.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

7/10 although it's difficult to say more without seeing the profiles for the other stages

+ve

It's largely in France as a "Tour de France" should be
Possible crosswinds stages
The Luz Ardiden stage
I like a tricky descent finish like the one to Pinerolo
The Alpine climax with a brutal "softening-up" Galibier finish and short Alpe d'Huez stage the next day
No prologue

-ve

TTT although at least it's short
No bonus seconds
TT should be in the first two weeks
Are we ever going to have a mountain TT again ?

 

[Altitude]

Is it really that hard to understand??

The more time TTlists get off the climbers, the more and the earlier the climbers must attack = more spectacle and excitement.

Point is, ITT's are boring, period. Climbers will be attacking regardless. You do know they have to gain time on the other climbers don't you? If there are mountains, there will be attacks-- you don't need two long ITT's to induce them.

 

[Descender]

Point is, ITT's are boring, period. Climbers will be attacking regardless. You do know they have to gain time on the other climbers don't you? If there are mountains, there will be attacks-- you don't need two long ITT's to induce them.

Oh right, and what about riders with strong ITT abilities who climb reasonably well a la Menchov or Evans? To hell with them right? Let the GTs be a climbers thing, screw the rest!

 

[auscyclefan94]

To be fair it was.

"rate the epic fail" implied that you were rating how badly it sucked. Simply "rate the tour" was obvious, 10 is good, 1 is bad, but "rate the fail" implies that you are rating its failure so 10 is complete failure, 1 is no failure.

My wife has an english degree (shes a teacher) and she said it was unclear and very poor english. If one of her students had made it she would have made them re-do it. And she teaches 13-16 year olds!

You think? That means having at least a slight understanding of just how her/his brain works.

most people could understand it. i think you and your wife need your brains checked! Does your wife do your editing on your website?

 

[Anonymous]

most people could understand it. i think you and your wife need your brains checked! Does your wife do your editing on your website?

get over it. Or alternatively try starting an argument with everyone else that thought it was not totally clear, or am i the only one you have the guts to argue with

Bored now.

 

[Altitude]

Oh right, and what about riders with strong ITT abilities who climb reasonably well a la Menchov or Evans? To hell with them right? Let the GTs be a climbers thing, screw the rest!

Sounds good to me