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Ferminal said:Is your normal speed 50kmh?
You can see on Streetview that the corners aren't as hard as they look on the route. Plus it depends whether they are uphill or downhill. But on a TT bike, there will definitely be a change of pace and position required.
Wouldn't surprise me to see them start on a road bike and then swap half way.
I don't know if it's better, but surely Acquarone thinks it is.trevim said:Or is it better for the Giro, as a global race, to attract riders like Wiggins/Froome/Contador instead of favouring their own riders?
Bavarianrider said:Well, the question is how does this look in reality. Does anyone know the street?
trevim said:I find weird that Acquarone doesn't try to make a parcours a bit better suited to Nibali. I mean, he's the only viable italian GT rider at this moment. Why not a couple of descent finishes and maybe a shorter flat TT together with a small hilly one?
What do you guys think? Isn't Nibali good enough to make some pressure on the organizers? Or is it better for the Giro, as a global race, to attract riders like Wiggins/Froome/Contador instead of favouring their own riders?
Ferminal said:Unless Sagan shows up, he could win a dozen stages here.
The Giro actually tried the short stage format in 2004 already. Ironically, it was because of the Vuelta 2003.phanatic said:That aside, I like the concentration on short mountain stages. The two we saw at the 2011 Suisse and Tour were fantastic. I'm glad the Giro is giving them a whirl to see how it pans out.
Eshnar said:The Giro actually tried the short stage format in 2004 already. Ironically, it was because of the Vuelta 2003.
History repeats itself I guess.
Libertine Seguros said:Henao to win four stages and the GC, after a very public falling out with Wiggins?
I rated this Giro compared to other Giros. I didn't compare it to the Tour nor the Vuelta. This course is better than '12 and '04, on par with '09, and worse than the rest of the last 10 years. IMOOlavEH said:I gave it 8/10.
-1 point because of the lack of a real killer stage, ex sterrati or 240-250 km hilly stage, in the first week, the 4.stage to Serra San Bruno isn't hilly enough.
-1 point because of too many short mountain stages.
I don't mind one or two short mountain stages, and the stages for Montasio and Jaffrau are interesting new additions, but they could have dropped the Galibier stage and added another stage in the Dolomites, and made the Val Martello stage somewhat longer. They could also have changed the stage finish here, perhaps finishing at Solda instead of Val Martello.
But overall it's a good route. Few real sprinters stages, several tough MTFs and a balance amount of TT kms.
Relly don't understand those who rates this as a 4 or 5/10. With that kind of scale, they should rate this years TDF route as 1 or 2/10.
Netserk said:I rated this Giro compared to other Giros. I didn't compare it to the Tour nor the Vuelta. This course is better than '12 and '04, on par with '09, and worse than the rest of the last 10 years. IMO
search said:they did exactly that part of the timetrial in the final ~30k of stage 5 of this year's giro. The last part of it is on youtube
+1.Bavarianrider said:It is quiet ridicilous if someone claims that this stage doesn't favor climbers.
Only on the last 50 kilometers of the stages there are 6 Cat 1 Climbs and 3 HC climbs ( Tour standard, and i was really conservative here. This also doesn't include the MTT)
Stage 19 has Gavia and Stelvio in addition. If climbers want they can go nuts on that stage.
Stage 20 features plenty of mountains before the final 50km, too.
Most other mountain stages don't have flat run ins, too. There is always at least one serious climb before the final climbs.
Those final climbs are all legit, too. No Vuelta Gimmick uphill sprints.
Comparing this route to this year's Vuelta is quiet a joke.
Please guys show me a GT prior to 2006 which features significantly more options for climbers then next year's Giro.
barmaher said:That gives 7/10...I deduct an extra mark because something just strikes me as weird...no X factor on this route in my book. It doesn't feel like a Giro to me. And I don't like Stelvio or Galibier. And because they have wasted the worlds circuit.
OlavEH said:What is X factor? Does it have to be Zoncolan, Finestre, a sterrati stage or someting similar? I think that the Tre Cime Lavaredo stage definitely offers some X-factor. The same for the Martello stage including both Gavia and Stelvio if it was 70-80 km longer.