Rate The 2021 Tour De France Parcours!

[Froome]

Col du granon via saint chaffrey 11.5 km at 9.3%, 2400 m of altitude.
The sequence portillon,peyresourde, val azet ans finish on pla d'adet 9.8 km at 8.8%.
Some interesting stuff that could work on le tour.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Given that the Pyrenees has less roads to climb, why not skip them entirely some years, and keep climbs fresh (or fresher)?

I know that's going against tradition, but there are other mountain ranges in France.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I would also love to see Chamrousse via Col Luitel and Plateau des Saix for HC MTFs, and for a hard climb-easy climb doublette, Col du Coq followed by an MTF at the Station de Ski Sarcenas on the Col de Porte; Auron after Col de la Lombarde or Col de la Bonette; or Val d'Azun (Couraduque) after Aubisque.

Chamrousse via Col Luitel and then a shorter hill before a downhill finish in Grenoble would be pretty high on my list.
Give me something like this after a +200km stage with a big MTF as stage 15 (for example) and I'm happy:
https://www.cronoescalada.com/index.php/tracks/view/594830
If we're talking about a steep MTF in the Alpes Plateu des Saix/the Samoens 1600 Ski station would be nice, steep climb with the steepest kms during the first half of the climb:

A Col de Saisies MTF after Bisanne would also be nice, if it comes the day after a Plateau des Saix or le Bettex stage you could use the Mont Blanc tunnel and start the stage in Courmayer. That would mean a short stage with Colle San Carlo-Petit Saint Bernand-Roselend-Bisanne-Col de Saise, a short stage with pretty much nothing but ascents and descents: https://www.cronoescalada.com/index.php/tracks/viewTour/721630

To sum things up, there's tons of great stuff that ASO could actually use in the Alpes without paving new climbs.

 

[OlavEH]

To sum things up, there's tons of great stuff that ASO could actually use in the Alpes without paving new climbs.

This is a pretty accurate summary of this discussion. Even without using completely new climbs, using the smallest ski stations you can find in the Alps and Pyrenees or designing crazy hard stages, there are still many options within the current regime/practice of ASO. They just need to focus more on designing mountain stages for something more than action on the last 5k, and doing something more original than stages like the Tignes and Luz Ardiden stages this year.

 

[Leinster]

Given that the Pyrenees has less roads to climb, why not skip them entirely some years, and keep climbs fresh (or fresher)?

I know that's going against tradition, but there are other mountain ranges in France.

They did that in '92 when they started in San Sebastian. They actually ended up having some great stages in the medium-mountains that year, not to mention Chiappucci's epic escape to Sestrieres, and a decent green jersey battle between Jalabert and Museeuw to boot. And tbf, even after his win in '91, nobody could reasonably have predicted that Indurain could be quite so utterly dominant as he was in the TTs that year.

 

[Ulle97]

Col du granon via saint chaffrey 11.5 km at 9.3%, 2400 m of altitude.
The sequence portillon,peyresourde, val azet ans finish on pla d'adet 9.8 km at 8.8%.
Some interesting stuff that could work on le tour.

That's a very similar Pyrenean stage to the 2005 one. That was the stage Hincapie won.

I'd love to see the Col du Granon used again. It's a monster.

 

[Froome]

Yeah, and also similar with one of 2014 tour stages.
It's a climb very similar to the climbs of the giro, very hard to some team control, and this kind of climbs make a lot of differences.

 

[Valv.Piti]

My favourite combo in the Tour is Pailheres - Bonascre, solely for what happened there in 2003 and 2013.

 

[SafeBet]

Am I the only one who can't find the climb profiles on the official website? The race starts in less than 2 weeks...

 

[OlavEH]

Am I the only one who can't find the climb profiles on the official website? The race starts in less than 2 weeks...

The profiles are there. Under "2021 route" and choosing what stage you want. Scroll down and find the profiles.

Stage 8 - Semur-en-Auxois > Colombey-les-deux-Églises - Tour de France 2024

Profile, time schedule, all informations on the stage

www.letour.fr

 

[Red Rick]

My favourite combo in the Tour is Pailheres - Bonascre, solely for what happened there in 2003 and 2013.

2013 was just possible on every single climb cause of team strength.

 

[SafeBet]

The profiles are there. Under "2021 route" and choosing what stage you want. Scroll down and find the profiles.

Stage 8 - Semur-en-Auxois > Colombey-les-deux-Églises - Tour de France 2024

Profile, time schedule, all informations on the stage

www.letour.fr

Yeah, the stage profiles are there but when I click on "Mountain passes and Hill" there's no specific profile for the climbs, which is annoying.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Yeah, the stage profiles are there but when I click on "Mountain passes and Hill" there's no specific profile for the climbs, which is annoying.

Eshnar has spoiled us. We can't go back to coach.