Tour de France Rate the 2022 Tour de France route

[Red Rick]

That weird no real Pyrenees is what we can expect on a route with a Grand Depart in the Basque Country. Get ready for 2023.

Aubisque + Tourmalet then 80km of flat here we go

 

[ice&fire]

Aubisque + Tourmalet then 80km of flat here we go

Marie-Blanque > Pau

 

[Froome]

How many times are they climbing mount Everest?

More than 10 times 6000*

 

[Nirvana]

Aubisque + Tourmalet then 80km of flat here we go

In the list of the hardest GT stages ever posted here a couple of days ago there was Pamplona '96 that had more than 100 kms of flat or almost flat after Larrau and still is one of the bigger carnage i've ever seen.

 

[houtdffan]

In the list of the hardest GT stages ever posted here a couple of days ago there was Pamplona '96 that had more than 100 kms of flat or almost flat after Larrau and still is one of the bigger carnage i've ever seen.

Depends upon how it is raced. The Pau stage in 1986 had the Marie Blanque as the hardest climb. Yet, because they raced the entire day, it was carnage. Lemond gained more than 40 seconds with an attack on an uncategorized climb near the end, but still came in about 5 minutes behind Hinault and Delgado

 

[Escarabajo]

If the stage is very, very hard it doesn't really matter where you put the flat, in front, in the middle or in the back. Your legs won't tolerate flat regardless!!!!

 

[gregrowlerson]

How to make boring stages interesting:

The flat....tyre stage.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

If the stage is very, very hard it doesn't really matter where you put the flat, in front, in the middle or in the back. Your legs won't tolerate flat regardless!!!!

Depending if you have helpers or not. If a race has already exploded, a peleton is decimated and riders have to work on their own then flat sections can be as difficult (and gap-producing) as climbs. It's not a coincidence that Bernal exploded at the start of Covadonga - the flat section killed him.

 

[Red Rick]

So on the big bridge before Nyborg, I'm seeing on google street view the barriers on the edges are suuuper low and normally the right most lane just isn't used?

Isn't that gonna be a problem where crashes will have a very high likelyhood of riders just being thrown into the sea?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So on the big bridge before Nyborg, I'm seeing on google street view the barriers on the edges are suuuper low and normally the right most lane just isn't used?

Isn't that gonna be a problem where crashes will have a very high likelyhood of riders just being thrown into the sea?

I've heard that Primoz is already learning how to swim.

 

[Red Rick]

LRCP has full stage profiles of the stages that aren't online

 

[tobydawq]

So on the big bridge before Nyborg, I'm seeing on google street view the barriers on the edges are suuuper low and normally the right most lane just isn't used?

Isn't that gonna be a problem where crashes will have a very high likelyhood of riders just being thrown into the sea?

Well, isn't the first week all about the spectacle, anyway?

At the top of the bridge, there is 70 metres to the sea, so I would hope that's not a real risk!

 

[tobydawq]

I think they will probably use the lane which has the rail-way on the side on the low part of the bridge. On the suspension bridge, the barrier is significantly taller.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

LRCP has full stage profiles of the stages that aren't online

They use the La Flamme Rouge stage profiles in their most recent video.

 

[tobydawq]

Maybe they could hand out parachutes when they pass the small stations where you usually pay for the bridge pass?

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Well, isn't the first week all about the spectacle, anyway?

At the top of the bridge, there is 70 metres to the sea, so I would hope that's not a real risk!

ASO are inspired by Squid Game...

 

[Escarabajo]

Looking closely at the route I have one comment related to the route that I did not notice initially:

- There are actually 3 mass sprints stages and 2 reduced sprint stages. That makes it only 5 sprint stages. This means that it is either GC oriented or Classicomano oriented. Hopefully, I am reading the profiles correctly.

So even if we consider the mountain stages not as good in design, the hardness will be provided by the classic riders. This might make the race very competitive. From that point of view it is actually very good from the organization side.

If QS was thinking about bringing 2 sprinters they better think it twice because they will miss many opportunities. They will be better off bringing their Classic A team.

 

[Netserk]

2,3,4,13,15,19,21. Stage 13 and 15 are either reduced sprints or breakaways, 2,3,4,19,21 are nailed on mass sprints. Plus there's the cobbled stage, which is flat too.

 

[Red Rick]

Only realised theres only 4 real maintain stages and all of them are cookie cutter MTF

 

[Mayomaniac]

Only realised theres only 4 real maintain stages and all of them are cookie cutter MTF

ASO has entered the chat.

 

[yaco]

Stage two is more likely to be a reduced sprint finish.

 

[Red Rick]

There's also 4(!) uphill sprints on like 4-5% climbs. I guess one has the excuse of being an attempt at a mountain stage, but still. Maybe it should be less bad cause of how few mountain stages there are.

 

[OlavEH]

Are all the stages profiles published?

 

[Netserk]

Stage two is more likely to be a reduced sprint finish.

It's more likely not to, like the Ile-de-Ré stage. It's very exposed to be sure, it's just not > 50 % likely that the wind plays ball. If it does, it would still be won by a sprinter (which is what the discussion was about: number of chances for the sprinters).