Giro d'Italia Rate the 2023 Giro d'Italia Route

[Escarabajo]

Maybe it is a good route when the Flamme Rouge has stage 18 as a medium mountain stage! Lol.

Giro d'Italia 2023 - Stage 18

Route of Giro d'Italia tracked with La Flamme Rouge editor. Oderzo > Val di Zoldo (Palafavera): 161.53 Km - Medium Mountain

www.la-flamme-rouge.eu

 

[OlavEH]

Campo Imperatore will be awesome, better than Blockhaus or Terminillo

How so? The scenery is nice, but the climb it self is at best okay. The only a bit more difficult part is the last 4 km that means everyone will wait until that part.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Blockhaus is probably the best climb south of the Alps, no? At least on top of my mind, but you guys can probably educate me on that one.

 

[Red Rick]

Blockhaus is probably the best climb south of the Alps, no? At least on top of my mind, but you guys can probably educate me on that one.

The ones I want to see in no particular order

This one is gravel from 7km or so.

 

[topcat]

Red Rick and myself are the only ones to give the route a 10 so far.

 

[Extinction]

How so? The scenery is nice, but the climb it self is at best okay. The only a bit more difficult part is the last 4 km that means everyone will wait until that part.

Because they will wait and then fireworks! Wait and see, you heard it First.

 

[Extinction]

How so? The scenery is nice, but the climb it self is at best okay. The only a bit more difficult part is the last 4 km that means everyone will wait until that part.

Yea, but Blockhaus and Terminillo are so known. By contrast, Campo Imperatore will suprise, wait and see.

 

[OlavEH]

Blockhaus is probably the best climb south of the Alps, no? At least on top of my mind, but you guys can probably educate me on that one.

Blockhaus is very likely the toughest climbs in the Apennines, but the best combo/mountain stage would be the one under. The climb to San Pellegrino in Alpe/Passo del Lagadello followed by a stage finish in Abetone. It was used in the 2000 Giro (stage profile below). It's pretty much the little sister of Mortirolo/Aprica. And it can be done harder by adding more climbs before San Pellegrino in Alpe. There was someone on the forum with the idea that the final weekend should be this combo on stage 19, a Montalcino sterrato stage on stage 20 and the last stage to Rome. If this was preceeded by a couple of big stages in the second week, like a Finestre-Sestriere stage and a big Aosta mountain stage, that would possibly be the best designed Giro ever.

 

[Valv.Piti]

You could argue that Pellegrino is flat out harder than Blockhaus, holy. These numbers are no joke at all

 

[OlavEH]

Holy ***. The 2000 Giro was quite something.

Abetone via San Pellegrino in Alpe.
Selva di Gardena finish via Fedaia and Sella.
Bormio finish via Tonale and Gavia.
Briancon finish via Agnello and Izoard.
Briancon-Sestriere ITT via Montgenevre

 

[Extinction]

Blockhaus is probably the best climb south of the Alps, no? At least on top of my mind, but you guys can probably educate me on that one.

Blockhaus is brutal, but let me tell you something, Campo Imperatore shall cause more damage.

 

[Red Rick]

You could argue that Pellegrino is flat out harder than Blockhaus, holy. These numbers are no joke at all

I think Blockhaus is harder than Predaccio because I don't think they would launch attacks before the final 3kms. Blockhaus is pretty much a harder Ventoux to me. I think it's pretty great if you put it in week 2 like in 2017 and then limit the hard MTFs after.

Still I wanna see Blockhaus up to La Majalletta junction then descend and do the Tirreno 2014 Guardiagrele finish.

 

[Andy schleck]

6/10.

Would have been an 8 with simple modifications like dropping the Lussari MTT and making one of the stages in week two tougher.

+Fossombrone stage looks good
+Addition of Coeur is good.
+A fairly suitable amount of ITT.
++Three big mountain stages.

-None of biggest climbs like Mortirolo, Stelvio, Finestre, etc.
-Bergamo stage could have been much better
--Lussari MTT is mostly a gimmick and completely unnecessary.
-- None of the big mountain stages that really encourage long range attacks.
--- First two weeks are too easy/too backloaded.

The first two weeks will be boring like this year.

 

[saunaking]

I give it a 3 because its still 6 months away

 

[Sciatic]

I give it a 3 because its still 6 months away

Yup, it’s way too backloaded (on my viewing calendar)!

 

[gregrowlerson]

Yup, it’s way too backloaded (on my viewing calendar)!

You are both lying. No votes below a 6.

#petulantwhinersseparated

 

[gregrowlerson]

The ones I want to see in no particular order

This one is gravel from 7km or so.

Have you been hacked by Libertine Seguros?

 

[Mayomaniac]

Holy ***. The 2000 Giro was quite something.

Abetone via San Pellegrino in Alpe.
Selva di Gardena finish via Fedaia and Sella.
Bormio finish via Tonale and Gavia.
Briancon finish via Agnello and Izoard.
Briancon-Sestriere ITT via Montgenevre

Yeah, one hell of a route, one of the best.

 

[Mayomaniac]

The ones I want to see in no particular order

This one is gravel from 7km or so.

There would be Monte Mancuso in Calabria, 16.2km at 8.3%, but the former Nato base on top of it is still a restricted military area.

 

[Bolder]

I have to rate this one an 8. The mountain stages have a lot of unfamiliar (to me) climbs; there's a lot of ITT which sets up a good climbers vs all-aroundersRemco battle.

 

[ChiefMasterPro]

I gave it a 6. Without the badly placed MTT at stage 20, I would have given a 9.

 

[Bavarianrider]

If the second TT was 55km-60km it could be considered a decent route for modern standards.

 

[Cookster15]

Voted 8. Definitely a very balanced course which encourages both climbers and strong time trialists. Remco’s to lose should he choose to accept. But a real pity we won’t see Bernal as I think this course would be perfect for him with lots of passes over 2,000 metres.

 

[Tour de Berghem]

Holy ***. The 2000 Giro was quite something.

Abetone via San Pellegrino in Alpe.
Selva di Gardena finish via Fedaia and Sella.
Bormio finish via Tonale and Gavia.
Briancon finish via Agnello and Izoard.
Briancon-Sestriere ITT via Montgenevre

Castellano's Giros had always good routes, the problem was that in those years for almost all big riders and also teams Giro simply didn't exist at all.

 

[gavia88]

Castellano's Giros had always good routes, the problem was that in those years for almost all big riders and also teams Giro simply didn't exist at all.

well, you can say that Castellano's Giros sometimes had a bit to many sprint stages, but in general those routes were quite interesting. Especially if you compare to Tour and Vuelta in the same period.