Giro d'Italia Rate the 2024 Giro d'Italia Route

[EddyMazzoleni]

lets hope it doesn't rain. They're trying to make descent finishes a thing.

They have always been a thing in cycling

Sadly Madonna di Campiglio also has lots of money...

Is that a cycling thing (thankfully they do not seem to be that interested in the Giro) or do you have a beef with them?

 

[OlavEH]

5.

The positive aspect is a fairly good balance between ITT and mountains and probably two good mountain stages to Mottolino and Bassano del Grappa.

The negative aspect is the rest. Lazy design of mountain stages and more than anything an almost complete lack of hilly and medium mountain stages. The Torino stage is average and the Sappada stage is fairly good. Otherwise there is nothing there. And that is pretty crap when the country is packed with hilly terrain and there is possible to design good medium mountain and hilly stages to a bunch of bigger cities and medium sized towns.

Edit: And it's pretty shitty that they once again have a stage to a Dolomite village with a crappy route design. It's a about freakin time that a Gardena stage finish is preceeded by Fedaia and Sella.

 

[noob]

Gonna rate the suits instead. They were as bland as the route. I saw only one of them actually looking good in his suit; Nibali. None of those current rider guys were suit guys. They looked so out of place. Rogla and Ganna maybe should've switched styles with each other.

Were there only 3 riders there or only 3 on stage?

Bland route (and suits).

 

[Escarabajo]

Some gossip of some riders targeting the Giro-Tour double. Now I understand why the mountain stages are so bad!

 

[Valv.Piti]

Don't really think the mountain stages are that bad. Regardless of the route, it will be a hard race no matter what. Such is the nature of a GT, especially when its the Giro and you do the Tour afterwards.

 

[Tonton]

Growing up in Pinotland, the Parisians would drive to our cow pastures and harvest mushrooms...now I know that it's more or less the same in Italy...

WTF is this? But who knows? That back loaded joke may bring suspense in the GC battle...Money wins! TV ratings...us arguing!

I give it an 8.

 

[ashhutch1997]

5.

The positive aspect is a fairly good balance between ITT and mountains and probably two good mountain stages to Mottolino and Bassano del Grappa.

The negative aspect is the rest. Lazy design of mountain stages and more than anything an almost complete lack of hilly and medium mountain stages. The Torino stage is average and the Sappada stage is fairly good. Otherwise there is nothing there. And that is pretty crap when the country is packed with hilly terrain and there is possible to design good medium mountain and hilly stages to a bunch of bigger cities and medium sized towns.

Edit: And it's pretty shitty that they once again have a stage to a Dolomite village with a crappy route design. It's a about freakin time that a Gardena stage finish is preceeded by Fedaia and Sella.

It's so frustrating because they could've done those stages in reverse. Could've had a classic Duran/ Staulanza/ Fedaia/ Sella to Val Gardena. Followed by a stage to Livigino over the Stelvio from Prato then Foscagno like 2005, that would've been awesome using the same stage start/ finishes.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It's so frustrating because they could've done those stages in reverse. Could've had a classic Duran/ Staulanza/ Fedaia/ Sella to Val Gardena. Followed by a stage to Livigino over the Stelvio from Prato then Foscagno like 2005, that would've been awesome using the same stage start/ finishes.

Except that they couldn't, because there is no other stage finish other than Val Gardena within a feasible distance from Livigno to start the next stage from, so they pretty much had to do it in this order.

 

[yaco]

Giro still insists on placing ITT's on weekends - When will they learn.

 

[Rob5091]

Well, I suppose we can pencil in Ganna doing the Giro next year, but otherwise, it looks like the GC will be up for grabs at the Giro.

Jumbo, UAE, Bora & QS we can almost be certain of will have the A-team at the Tour,so we'll be left with EF (Carapaz?), Jayco (Yates?), Trek (Hart?) and if old man Thomas at Ineos can face living like a monk for 6 months he might do it again, I suppose. Otherwise the KOM & sprint competitions might well be the most intense. If Roglic and Pogacar get rolled over by Jumbo at the Tour, then the two of them will get most of Slovenia at the Giro if they do it in 2025.

That Jumbo send Kuss and the B-team, but still steam roller everyone else, must be a nightmare for the organizers, but the Giro really is in a squeeze next year with the Tour/Olympics.

 

[tobydawq]

lets hope it doesn't rain. They're trying to make descent finishes a thing.

What do you mean?
It has always been a thing.

 

[Mayomaniac]

They have always been a thing in cycling

Is that a cycling thing (thankfully they do not seem to be that interested in the Giro) or do you have a beef with them?

Cycling related.

 

[OlavEH]

Jumbo, UAE, Bora & QS we can almost be certain of will have the A-team at the Tour,so we'll be left with EF (Carapaz?), Jayco (Yates?), Trek (Hart?) and if old man Thomas at In

Will UAE send all of Pogacar, Ayuso, Yates and Almeida to the Tour? I seriously doubt it.

Same applies for Bora. I would be suprised if they don't send Hindley or Vlasov.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Some gossip of some riders targeting the Giro-Tour double. Now I understand why the mountain stages are so bad!

Vegni admitting that they designed a relatively soft route, so that Pog may attempt the double is just wishful thinking on his part. And makes him look rather desperate.

I don't think any of the top dogs (or rather, their teams) are seriously considering it. Maybe riders like the Yates bros. Simon, at least.

 

[Netserk]

Except that they couldn't, because there is no other stage finish other than Val Gardena within a feasible distance from Livigno to start the next stage from, so they pretty much had to do it in this order.

If only they actually had a choice. Just very unfortunate that e.g. Trento obviously won't host a stage finish.

 

[Red Rick]

At least I can blame Pogacar for 5 yeras of *** Giro routes cause he prefers to get rekt at the Tour so that's a positive.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Vegni admitting that they designed a relatively soft route, so that Pog may attempt the double is just wishful thinking on his part. And makes him look rather desperate.

I don't think any of the top dogs (or rather, their teams) are seriously considering it. Maybe riders like the Yates bros. Simon, at least.

Either you put big money on the table/have important stages in their homeland/a grande partenza there or you won't get the big stars, Mauro.
Simon Yates is overrated as hell on proper mountain stages, the guy should stagehunt at the Tour and ride for gc at the Vuelta.
Almeida/Ayuso, Kuss, Carapaz, Hindley and the likes are realistic, but not Big Slov.

 

[Mayomaniac]

If only they actually had a choice. Just very unfortunate that e.g. Trento obviously won't host a stage finish.

Kurzras/Schnalstal is the only big Ski station in the Western part of Südtirol that actually has a lot of money, but they haven't hosted a MTF since 1995 (and it's a pretty meh MTF).

 

[danielovichdk2]

Good route for Remco

 

[tobydawq]

At least I can blame Pogacar for 5 yeras of *** Giro routes cause he prefers to get rekt at the Tour so that's a positive.

 

[RedheadDane]

Good route for Remco

Too bad I don't think he'll be going for the Double.

 

[Red Rick]

I honestly can't think of any real way to make the sarcasm any more obvious

 

[Rob5091]

Will UAE send all of Pogacar, Ayuso, Yates and Almeida to the Tour? I seriously doubt it.

Same applies for Bora. I would be suprised if they don't send Hindley or Vlasov.

UAE without Pogacar seem to have problems so it could Giro 2022 in reprise, although if Almeida turns up at 100% then his TT-ing might boost his chances. I suppose Vlasov will do the Giro as I expect Hindley will want /need to be at the Tour/Olympics (Team Roglic!)

 

[roundabout]

Given the history of route modifications after the presentation and a rather unenthusiastic reception for this route, I am still hopeful that some changes for the better will still be made before the start.

 

[tobydawq]

I honestly can't think of any real way to make the sarcasm any more obvious

I can't even excuse myself with not having gotten my morning coffee...