Rate the riders

[The Hitch]

I was wondering how you all would rate different riders on different aspects.

For those of you who play PCM the game rates cycling riders on several aspects such as hils, sprints, mountains, time trias, prologues, descents.

The ratings are out of a hundred though only 1 or 2 riders will get above 80 for a stat and 85 or 86 is usually the cieling.

For example Cavendish has a rating of 84 for sprints.

Farrar has 82 and JJ Haedo has 79.

So how would you rate the top 3 or 4 (or more if you want) riders in each discipline.

Ill start.

Sprinting

Cavendish 84
Farrar 81
Greipel 81
Goss 81

Notable others
Boonen 78
Freire 77
Valverde 74
Gilbert 72
Cancellara 70
Samu 67
Evans 62
Contador 55


Time Trialing

Cancellara 83
Martin 83
Millar 79
Wiggins 79

Notable others
Contador 77
Menchov 76
Evans 75
Samu Sanchez 73
Valverde 71

Mountains

Contador 85
Andy Schleck 82
Ivan Basso 80
Samuel Sanchez 80
Gesink 79
Cadel Evans 79
Jose Rujano 79
Menchov 79
Michelle Scarponi 78
Igor Anton 78

Notable others
Frank - 78
Nibali - 77
Gadret 77
Gilbert 65

Hills

Gilbert 85
Valverde 83
Rodriguez 82
Rebbelin 81
Cunego 80
Evans 79
Sanchez 79

Notable others

Contador 78
Cancellara 77
Sagan 76
Hushovd 74

Cobbles

Cancellara 85
Boonen 83
Flecha 80
Hushovd 80
Pozzato 80

Notable others
Van Summeren 77
Euskaltel 45

Descending

Cancellara 83
Nibali 83
Hushovd 82
Sanchez 81
Gilbert 80

Notable others
Valverde 79
Evans 77
Contador 75
Basso 55

Fighter (aka Jens factor)

Vino 87
Jens - 85
Amets - 85
Hoogie 85
Kiriyenka - 80

Notable others

Gesink 80


Bike handling

Cancellara 85
Nibali 85
Sagan 82
Hushovd 80


Notable others
Gesink 55
Frank Schleck 54
Dennis "The Pope" Menchov 45
Euskaltel average 45
Euskaltel average (without Samu) 35

 

[Wigwan]

Bike handling

Cancellara 85
Nibali 85
Hushovd 80

Notable others
Gesink 55
Frank Schleck 54
Dennis "The Pope" Menchov 45
Euskaltel average 45
Euskaltel average (without Samu) 35
Euskaltel in Québec city 25

in 2010 all the team went to the ground. They improved this year since only six of them felt..

 

[LaFlorecita]

Euskaltel average 45
Euskaltel average (without Samu) 35

LOL!
I agree with your ranking btw.

 

[roundabout]

Does that mean that Samu's bike handling is 200 something?

 

[will10]

Your starting post could be much improved by using a better DB.

 

[The Hitch]

Your starting post could be much improved by using a better DB.

Tell us what your database would be

 

[Panda Claws]

I doubt Valverde could still outsprint Gilbert and escpecially not with such a huge margin.

 

[The Hitch]

I doubt Valverde could still outsprint Gilbert and escpecially not with such a huge margin.

Have you ever seen Gilbert contest a sprint of 70 riders like the one Valverde won against Freire and Gavazzi in Pais Vasco stage 2 last year?

 

[El Pistolero]

Have you ever seen Gilbert contest a sprint of 70 riders like the one Valverde won against Freire and Gavazzi in Pais Vasco stage 2 last year?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vtU1Br4SRc

 

[roundabout]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfZfDnYUMxM&feature=player_detailpage#t=452s

 

[El Pistolero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfZfDnYUMxM&feature=player_detailpage#t=452s

I hope you realize that was a sprint after Gilbert killed him self trying to still win the race on Saint-Nicholas, humiliating Valverde in the process. The funny thing is, you'll never see Valverde doing work on the front. He's just sucking Cadel's wheel in the hope that the latter reels Gilbert back in.

Yeah, Valverde is faster on the flat sprints, but that vid doesn't prove anything.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

High mountains

1. Contador 81
2. Andy Schleck 80
3. Rujano ?

Hard to rank Sanchez, Evans, Menchov, Rujano, Basso, Cobo, Anton, Vanendert, old man Horner, Vandenbroeck, Scarponi, Gesink, Nibali, Leipheimer, Frank Schleck, Froome, Hesjedal, etc.




Time trials (long and flat)

1. Martin 83
2. Cancellara 82
3. Wiggins 80

. Kloden 78
. Evans 77
. Leipheimer 77
. Contador 75
. Andy Schleck 70


Time trials (hills / medium mountains)

1. Martin 80
1. Wiggins 80
1. Contador 80
1. Evans 80
5. Kloden 78
5. Leipheimer 78

. Andy Schleck 70


Mountain time trial

1. Contador 83
2. ?
3. ?

. Rujano 78
. Nibali 78
. Scarponi 78



Menchov's time trials weren't very impressive this year, so I didn't rate him.



Fighter

1. Vino 100

 

[roundabout]

I hope you realize that was a sprint after Gilbert killed him self trying to still win the race on Saint-Nicholas, humiliating Valverde in the process. The funny thing is, you'll never see Valverde doing work on the front. He's just sucking Cadel's wheel in the hope that the latter reels Gilbert back in.

Yeah, Valverde is faster on the flat sprints, but that vid doesn't prove anything.

That was slightly tongue in cheek.

My honest opinion is that there isn't much to choose between them.

 

[Walkman]

Ranking...

Is Kloeden really still, that good?

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vtU1Br4SRc

Can you read? I asked for something more resembling a bunch sprint, not a tiny group of 10 riders.

If we were to start posting videos of Valverde winning sprints from a groups as small as that, it would take all night.

 

[Walkman]

Can you read? I asked for something more resembling a bunch sprint, not a tiny group of 10 riders.

If we were to start posting videos of Valverde winning sprints from a groups as small as that, it would take all night.

How about this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvxRPK0UfDY

Second place but that's behind Cav...

 

[Mellow Velo]

Don't all Colombian riders automatically rate 100?

 

[The Hitch]

How about this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvxRPK0UfDY

Second place but that's behind Cav...

Yeah you are right. That is a good example. Forgot about that one, my bad. Ill revise my rankings to give Gilbert a better score based on that, though I would still have Valverde as a better sprinter.

 

[El Pistolero]

Can you read? I asked for something more resembling a bunch sprint, not a tiny group of 10 riders.

If we were to start posting videos of Valverde winning sprints from a groups as small as that, it would take all night.

Beating Farrar is quite a bit better than beating Freire and Gavazzi

There's also the 2009 Vuelta where he got second in a bunch sprint behind Farrar. Or stage 6 of the 2008 Vuelta where he got second behind Paolo Bettini, but before Alejandro Valverde, Daniele Bennati and Oscar Freire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AspEHAL8cE8

 

[SHAD0W93]

Is Kloeden really still, that good?

Yes considering I think he could have got a top 10 in this years tour and maybe next year.

 

[greenedge]

Gilbert won that sprint by accelerating out of the corner quicker than Farrar. Pure race smarts.

I would improve Evans in Hills, Time Trialling, Mountains and sprinting. Samu should be boosted up in mountains as well and Shleck should be on par or just below Contador in mountains rather than 3 down.

 

[Altitude]

You have slightly too much time on your hands Hitch

 

[airstream]

I would put one more gradation for TT for GT and TT for one day start. Kloden was always weak on the Worlds whereas Wiggins is unlikely to be that good on stage 20 as he does on the Worlds. It works for many other guys.

 

[maltiv]

Froome:

MO: 84
Hills:84
TT:81
Acceleration: 83
Recovery: 84
Stamina:82
Flat:82

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[Havetts]

Froome:

MO: 84
Hills:84
TT:81
Acceleration: 83
Recovery: 84
Stamina:82
Flat:82

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