Reactions from the peloton

[RichWalk]

Joan Horrach, classy as always:

Those USADA folks are airing the dirty laundry now... what a crappy sport, they're always throwing sh** at us... #disgustingrules!

My response:
Were you one of those who spat on Simeoni? It's not the USADA throwing sh** at you guys, it's USPS, UCI and tweets like yours.

His response:
If you gave me the chance I would so spit on you... green gob on your face...

With the current sprinkling of comments from the peleton and its hierarchy its really not too hard to see why many of these guys were eager to dope or accept it as part of the job. I understand they arent paid for their IQ's but really...........

 

[halamala]

André Steensen ‏@ASteensen

Depressing to read all the cyclists linked to doping in #USADA-case. But cycling have to clean up the past. #cleaningoutthecloset #doping

http://twitter.com/ASteensen/status/256332526136737792

 

[oldcrank]

Still waiting for Radio-Shack golden boy FabCan
to comment, but he is strangely quiet. Hmmmm.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Joan Horrach, classy as always:

Those USADA folks are airing the dirty laundry now... what a crappy sport, they're always throwing sh** at us... #disgustingrules!

My response:
Were you one of those who spat on Simeoni? It's not the USADA throwing sh** at you guys, it's USPS, UCI and tweets like yours.

His response:
If you gave me the chance I would so spit on you... green gob on your face...

hahaha. I'm a fan

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Still waiting for Radio-Shack golden boy FabCan
to comment, but he is strangely quiet. Hmmmm.

maybe he's training or he has friends or whatever

 

[RhodriM]

What would be nice would be to see which riders are jumping ship on Armstrong (ie Rev David Millar) and who are the true loyalists. It would also be good to see who are the opportunists - to compare David Millar's comments about Armstrong across the years with his view now. It seems to me that many riders either suffer from amnesia or think that cycling fans have a two second memory.

People aren't allowed to change their minds in the face of overwhelming evidence?

 

[Maxiton]

Reactions from the peloton = chorus of dopers, old and young.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Mads Kaggestad:

- Johan Bruyneel has pressured practitioners who initially wanted to work clean to dope himself, a former cycling pro Mads Kaggestads conclusion after having put into evidence.

- He is in my eyes a villain. A mafia boss. A facilitator for all that appears. He has brought the sport into disrepute. I hope the Board of cycling team he is a part of dismisses him as quickly as possible, says Kaggestad, now 2 TV expert, told Dagbladet.

Bruyneel, who is still sporting director of RadioShack-Nissan, is scheduled for a hearing with USADA in the coming months.

- He can not stand there and lie under oath, after all that has now come to the table, said Kaggestad.

http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/10/11/sport/sykkel/lance_armstrong/doping/johan_bruyneel/23819198/

 

[richwagmn]

Lets tweet to him that from now on we consider him a doper. It's time to act.

He's already backpedaling faster than a Romney campaign adviser.

 

[kanari]

Some quotes from Alexander Kristoff and LP Nordhaug from Norwegian TV2 today:

AK: It seems totally sick what's been going on. I hope and believe it's better now. It seems insane that a whole team can be doing what US Postal have done.

LPN: It seems to have been a crazy scheme in US Postal. It's hard to believe other teams have operated the same way but the probability that other teams had doping programs is large.

AK: I feel times are different now but riders still get caught doping.

TV2: How can we trust that it is clean?

AK: You can't trust that it is. A Frenchman was just caught. I believe it's cleaner but it's still not 100% clean.

http://www.tv2.no/sport/sykkel/kristoff-om-lancerapporten-det-er-helt-sinnssykt-3897637.html

 

[kanari]

Also from TV2, an interview with Steffen Kjærgaard:

http://www.tv2.no/sport/sykkel/lagk...yer-for-aa-skjule-sproeytemerker-3897751.html

Too much too translate, but it's safe to say he seems like a proper muppet/liar.

 

[Wallace]

Lance Armstrong:

"youtube.com/watch?v=c4UL7fXSzk8 …"

http://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/256225169981448192

So, he's posted a video of Elliott Smith's 'Coming Up Roses'. From the same album are 'Needle In The Hay', 'Single File', and 'The Biggest Lie'

Is this a joke--I mean did LA really post "Coming up Roses" on his Facebook page--the song with these lyrics:

The things that you tell yourself
They'll kill you in time
Your cold white brother alive in your blood
Spinning in the night sky
While the moon does its division, you're buried below
And you're coming up roses everywhere you go
Red roses
So you got in a kind of trouble that nobody knows
It's coming up roses everywhere you go
Red roses

Given the intense self-loathing and self-directed irony in all of Smith's music (I mean this as praise--I love Elliot Smith) no one who's in the least bit familiar with him would ever think "Coming Up Roses" is a good thing.

 

[Cramps]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19910165

Alex Dowsett, Armstrong still a legend, doping "doesn't matter"

???? There is nowhere in this article where Dowsett says doping "doesn't matter". No where. Why are you "quoting" this?

As Alex Dowsett explains in the cited article: "When I first referred to Lance as a legend a couple of months ago it was referring mainly to what he has done for cancer. The Livestrong charity is something I rode for when I was with the Trek Livestrong team and I saw all the good that it did."

Why do you make someone out to be a villian for saying this? Dowsett then goes on to give his feelings about Armstrong:

"I rode for his development team and I did meet him a few times but I don't think I'd want to [shake his hand]."

 

[Slava101]

Alex Dowsett just made a huge back track on 5Live in the UK. He said if he met him in person he wouldn't be able to shake his hand. He said his comments where in regards to Livestrong's work.

 

[Maxiton]

Is this a joke--I mean did LA really post "Coming up Roses" on his Facebook page--the song with these lyrics:

The things that you tell yourself
They'll kill you in time
Your cold white brother alive in your blood
Spinning in the night sky
While the moon does its division, you're buried below
And you're coming up roses everywhere you go
Red roses
So you got in a kind of trouble that nobody knows
It's coming up roses everywhere you go
Red roses

Given the intense self-loathing and self-directed irony in all of Smith's music (I mean this as praise--I love Elliot Smith) no one who's in the least bit familiar with him would ever think "Coming Up Roses" is a good thing.

Obviously intentional. Sincere is anybody's guess. Certainly appropriate.

 

[Arnout]

Head of the Dutch anti-doping authority doesn't think there was team doping in Rabobank and isn't going to pursue it. From the report it is clear it was "one rider" and "one doctor" he says and "there is nothing that gives cause to think it was more than that".

Tosser.

 

[Maxiton]

Head of the Dutch anti-doping authority doesn't think there was team doping in Rabobank and isn't going to pursue it. From the report it is clear it was "one rider" and "one doctor" he says and "there is nothing that gives cause to think it was more than that".

Tosser.

What I love about these reactions is that they tell you exactly where someone is on the scale of concern, complicity, and corruption. It's like holding up a mirror that shows the true face when they look into it.

So now we know the Dutch "anti-doping authority" and its head are worth nothing. Less than nothing: part of the problem

 

[pelodee]

Is this a joke--I mean did LA really post "Coming up Roses" on his Facebook page--the song with these lyrics:

The things that you tell yourself
They'll kill you in time
Your cold white brother alive in your blood
Spinning in the night sky
While the moon does its division, you're buried below
And you're coming up roses everywhere you go
Red roses
So you got in a kind of trouble that nobody knows
It's coming up roses everywhere you go
Red roses

Given the intense self-loathing and self-directed irony in all of Smith's music (I mean this as praise--I love Elliot Smith) no one who's in the least bit familiar with him would ever think "Coming Up Roses" is a good thing.

I don't know if he posted it on facebook also.

What can I say? The guy's clearly an idiot (Armstrong not Smith). This reminds me of vacuous films, tv programmes and adverts which use a song because a few of the lyrics match what is happening on the screen devoid of all meaning of what the song's about.

He's got mixed up with the phrase 'Everything's coming up roses'

 

[Fatclimber]

Somebody that everybody's been waiting to hear from

@SkyNewsBreak: Bradley Wiggins says evidence that Lance Armstrong was involved in doping is "irrefutable" and he is "shocked by the scale of the evidence"

 

[Escarabajo]

@SkyNewsBreak: Bradley Wiggins says evidence that Lance Armstrong was involved in doping is "irrefutable" and he is "shocked by the scale of the evidence"

So now he is peeing on his pants!

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Wiggins obviously spent the day getting his media briefing right, unlike others. Has Rev Millar spoken today?

What was Wiggins saying about Armstrong when the Landis and Hamilton confessions broke?

 

[thehog]

Wiggins obviously spent the day getting his media briefing right, unlike others. Has Rev Millar spoken today?

What was Wiggins saying about Armstrong when the Landis and Hamilton confessions broke?

''We've got the makings of an incredible team with Richie Porte, Michael Rogers and Chris Froome" he said. "This is by far the best team we've had on paper. All of a sudden we've got one of the strongest teams in cycling. It's like the old Postal days. I have visions of five or six guys ahead of me in the mountains and Cav out the back! But he'll have green so it won't matter".

Bradley Wiggins, Cycling Weekly, 26th January.

Then went on to say about 500 tests being valid and Landis is a drunk.

Oh and that he loves Lance.

"I love him," Wiggins said. "I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense. Even his strongest critics have benefitted from him. I don't think this sport will ever realise what he's brought it or how big he's made it

 

[Catwhoorg]

Has Rev Millar spoken today?

Post #2 in the thread was his initial twitter comments.

 

[RhodriM]

Wiggins obviously spent the day getting his media briefing right, unlike others. Has Rev Millar spoken today?

What was Wiggins saying about Armstrong when the Landis and Hamilton confessions broke?

So what would you prefer, the riders who won't accept it's true? They're not allowed to change their opinions?

Pretty sure he eased up on the Lance-lovin' quite a while ago. As did the celebs/journos who were up his ar$e 3-4 years ago.

There are some in the peloton who are complicit, some who have been wilfully blind and some who have been just plain thick.

 

[Benotti69]

So what would you prefer, the riders who won't accept it's true? They're not allowed to change their opinions?

Pretty sure he eased up on the Lance-lovin' quite a while ago. As did the celebs/journos who were up his ar$e 3-4 years ago.

There are some in the peloton who are complicit, some who have been wilfully blind and some who have been just plain thick.

I prefer that they treat us with some respect as intelligent human beings who follow the sport quite closely.

Wiggins is a c**t with a statement like that.

The media hacks dont get any love on here any more than Wiggins deserves.

Most of the peloton is complicit with their silence.

Most of thiose who talked did so with the threat of the feds over them so they cant hold their heads up high.

Wiggins should F O right out of the sport with his hypocritical BS. He bought into doping and thinks we cant recognise it cos his teams spin out the clean team clap trap. Yeah well if you bought it in 1999 you could be forgiven but it was obvious in 2009 it was BS and in 2012 it still looks and sounds the same!