Reactions from the peloton

[hrotha]

Jens Voigt being a clown again:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/voigt-armstrong-has-been-punished-enough

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

McEwen claims to have been 'totally deceived'. Either Robbie Roid Rage is one of the most thick people on the planet, or he is a liar.

Good summation of reactions http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/lan...-provokes-little-sympathy-102424282--spt.html

 

[WinterRider]

Jens Voigt being a clown again:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/voigt-armstrong-has-been-punished-enough

Well that's the final nail in the coffin on Voigt for me. What an idiot. He is either completely clueless as to what Armstrong has done, or he was doing it himself too.

 

[MarkvW]

Well that's the final nail in the coffin on Voigt for me. What an idiot. He is either completely clueless as to what Armstrong has done, or he was doing it himself too.

I think Jens might be a true window into the consensus attitude of the peloton.

 

[the asian]

Virenque.
http://velorooms.com/the-dark-side/the-official-lance-armstrong-thread/msg81365/#msg81365

Says Compared to USPS Festina was small.

Thinks there isn't much Omerta in cycling compared to other sports.

Tells the cliche 'Cycling has evolved now, it is much cleaner:

 

[dottigirl]

Cav:

Mark Cavendish ‏@MarkCavendish
Too much to write about my feelings on the @lancearmstrong interview in 140 characters. I'll write an article & post a link when it's done.

IF he sticks his head above the parapets, unlike the deafening silence coming from the most of the peloton, fair play to him.


In the meantime, Cooke has been at it again:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/21085639

Go girl!

 

[pastronef]

I'll watch the 1st part of the Oprah show re-played later tonight on italian tv.

I've read that Lance said that Hincapie knows his story better than the others, and still they speak on the phone once a week

 

[ridein]

Andy Schleck - CSC team - Bobby Julich

Andy Schleck was recently defending Bobby Julich after his Sky ouster. His opinion on Bobby was that he was the cleanest rider on the team. Just exactly how would Andy be a good judge of that and why did he make that conclusion without his own PED knowledge?

 

[Deagol]

I doubt that Lance "I was protecting the interests of the Peloton" Armstrong will be called out by the peloton, based on their "shock" at these accusations. A very beleivable bunch, indeed

 

[trompe le monde]

I wonder if those who quite bizarrely threw their support behind Lance once the USADA report came out, such as Alejandro Valverde and Samuel Sanchez, have now changed their minds?

 

[Arnout]

I wonder if those who quite bizarrely threw their support behind Lance once the USADA report came out, such as Alejandro Valverde and Samuel Sanchez, have now changed their minds?

Sanchez did at last yes.

 

[hrotha]

Sanchez did at last yes.

I wouldn't say he did, really. He now acknowledges Armstrong is guilty, but he's still sticking to his talking points. It's just the goalposts have inevitably moved.
http://www.marca.com/2013/01/18/ciclismo/1358505318.html

"He admitted everything was a lie. He was done in by his ambition, that's what he says, but I want to look forward to the future, not to the past. What's damaged is the image of that era of cycling, but this one's completely different. If anyone feels wronged, they should do what they must."

The Asturian rider said he doesn't "approve nor disapprove" of the confession because "that's up to [Lance]"

"He's confessed and now we'll see what consequences that brings about. It's a difficult situation for the sport. Those of us who are still riding must look forward and let the past be water under the bridge," requested the Asturian rider, who emphasized that cycling had changed since Armstrong's times

"We're scrutinized 24/7 by the UCI, WADA, the Spanish Federation, the IOC... I'm so tired of saying time and time again that our whereabouts are known and we're controlled at all times. Any doubts anyone might have about cycling are sufficiently dispelled, I think"

 

[DirtyWorks]

I'll watch the 1st part of the Oprah show re-played later tonight on italian tv.

I've read that Lance said that Hincapie knows his story better than the others, and still they speak on the phone once a week

Why not? I'm pretty sure two go back to being doped as Juniors under Carmichael and Wenzel. That's taking a HUGE leap that what Wonderboy said was actually even a little true.

 

[frenchfry]

Virenque.
http://velorooms.com/the-dark-side/the-official-lance-armstrong-thread/msg81365/#msg81365

Says Compared to USPS Festina was small.

Thinks there isn't much Omerta in cycling compared to other sports.

Tells the cliche 'Cycling has evolved now, it is much cleaner:

I was thinking that Virenque and Armstrong are very similar in that they are both unrepentant dopers that never really "confessed", they just stopped denying when the lie became too ridiculous.

Cycling is much cleaner - the new omerta slogan.

 

[Benotti69]

I doubt that Lance "I was protecting the interests of the Peloton" Armstrong will be called out by the peloton, based on their "shock" at these accusations. A very beleivable bunch, indeed

The omerta is safe repat the following,

It was years ago.

The sport has cleaned up since 2005.

We never rode with the Lance.

ad infinitum..............

 

[hrotha]

Manzano. I ****ing love this guy:
http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2013/01/18/mas_ciclismo/1358535374_869757.html

The laws must be changed so that the punishment for doping is imprisonment. That's how you get rid of doping. You'd see, when the doctor came to stick a needle in a rider's arms, the rider would just say: "Stick it up your ****"

 

[the asian]

Manzano. I ****ing love this guy:
http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2013/01/18/mas_ciclismo/1358535374_869757.html

Great read. He also says OP trial will start on 28th.

Do you expect it to have some success this time?

 

[ElChingon]

Manzano. I ****ing love this guy:
http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2013/01/18/mas_ciclismo/1358535374_869757.html

Nice!

So Lance knew of 5 riders who didn't dope and Manzano adds two Juanmi Cuenca, & Santi Blanco or are they in the 5?

A good day for Manzano, his story is fully vindicated now. I was always surprised the Governing body didn't use his information to bust others.

 

[pmcg76]

Nice!

So Lance knew of 5 riders who didn't dope and Manzano adds two Juanmi Cuenca, & Santi Blanco or are they in the 5?

A good day for Manzano, his story is fully vindicated now. I was always surprised the Governing body didn't use his information to bust others.

Santi Blanco!!! that guy had some decent results during the EPO era for a guy who wasn't apparently doping. I know Blanco and Casero were considered as the next big things in Spain when they came on the scene, I guess Casero was the one who won a GT.

 

[Cycle Chic]

wimp journalists

Just caught Michael Hutchinson aka The Hutch from Cycling Weekly on Sky News. As Benotti keeps reminding us - Hutch trotted out the same old 'the sport is cleaner now'. WIMP !!

 

[hrotha]

Santi Blanco!!! that guy had some decent results during the EPO era for a guy who wasn't apparently doping. I know Blanco and Casero were considered as the next big things in Spain when they came on the scene, I guess Casero was the one who won a GT.

Unzue said Blanco would win the 2000 Tour de France, but I imagine he believed he'd get him in the program before that. When he couldn't live up to the expectations, people would belittle him, saying he was nothing but an eternal hopeful who had stagnated completely.

 

[pmcg76]

Unzue said Blanco would win the 2000 Tour de France, but I imagine he believed he'd get him in the program before that. When he couldn't live up to the expectations, people would belittle him, saying he was nothing but an eternal hopeful who had stagnated completely.

Agree....that's what I meant by saying that Casero was the one who went on to win a GT.

If Blanco was truly clean, it helps gives us a better idea of what was possible for a clean rider during the EPO era which might be more than previously thought.

It also makes a mockery of the "he rode for team X or Y so definitely doped" agenda. Just adds some more perspective to the overall picture.

If clean, Blanco was definitely a rider who lost out to the likes of Armstrong and co.

 

[Benotti69]

Agree....that's what I meant by saying that Casero was the one who went on to win a GT.

If Blanco was truly clean, it helps gives us a better idea of what was possible for a clean rider during the EPO era which might be more than previously thought.

It also makes a mockery of the "he rode for team X or Y so definitely doped" agenda. Just adds some more perspective to the overall picture.

If clean, Blanco was definitely a rider who lost out to the likes of Armstrong and co.

That agenda was dismissed by Bassons and more recently by Moncoutie.

 

[AussieEdge]

Well I believe it is...

It's not totally clean, but ****eloades better than when Armstrong started.

You guys just only hear what you want to hear & anyone who doesn't say what you want them to is on the dopers side regardless of how true or not is is quite frankly

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

McEwen claims to have been 'totally deceived'. Either Robbie Roid Rage is one of the most thick people on the planet, or he is a liar.

Good summation of reactions http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/lan...-provokes-little-sympathy-102424282--spt.html

I'm sure lance told mcewen everything in 2009, since they had always been such good friends