Echoes said:
What??
Atheists believe in liberalism, unlimited pleasure hic et nunc, money (Mammon/Golden Calf) as a key to all pleasures, unlimited human rights (but no human duties, it's forbidden to forbid - Sixties rebellion), etc.
Religious people believe in social solidarity, belonging to a group, traditions, "Our Kingdom is not from this World", etc.
Beliefs influence values because a set of values is of necessity a matter of faith.
Atheism has been the driving forces behind all the horrors of the past two centuries and a half. That's a fact !
that's bullsh!t and I'm shocked anyone would genuinely believe this.
First of all, atheists don't believe. This fact is the only thing they have in common. They don't follow a single doctrine, you can't talk about them as a group.
Atheists believe in liberalism? Some of them yes. Some not.
Atheists believe in "unlimited pleasure"? Some of them yes. Some not. Some religious people believe in that too, some others not. Don't forget there are many religions out there, with some different views about this.
Atheists believe in money about as much as every other human being of this age, religious people included.
Unlimited human rights but no human duties? what the hell does make you think that?
"Religious people believe in social solidarity, belonging to a group, traditions, "Our Kingdom is not from this World", etc. " all of this is shared with atheists, except for the last part, which is in fact redundant respect to the rest.
"Beliefs influence values because a set of values is of necessity a matter of faith. " Nope, a set of common values are necessary for any kind of society. Western countries' set of values are laical, but still a valid set of values, right?
Atheism has been the driving forces behind all the horrors of the past two centuries and a half? Trolling?
Can you list all the horrors of the past two centuries and a half? I'm curious what exactly of them do you blame on atheism. I start noting that the horrors of this last century have nothing to do with atheism and much to do with religion.