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Gigs_98 said:
Mayomaniac said:
Gigs_98 said:
Whoever will break out next year, I'm very sure it wont be an Austrian :eek:
Come on, Mühlberger could do something, Patrick Konrad was 10th on the gc in Abu Dhabi and in Oman, he could surprise a few people in one week races.
Not saying Austrians don't have any good young riders, but when you expect them to finally break out they either disappoint or they get some mentions in the clinic section. Don't forget, I'm relatively young so the only Austrian rider I have seen in cycling races, who was internationally successful, was Bernhard Kohl, although you hear year after year that Austria has many juniors, who could become very successful one day.

Can't forget Christian Pfaffenberger.

I think Konrad looks very solid but maybe someone who is going to improve gradually rather than be a revelation.
 
I'm surprised that Floris Gerts hasn't been mentioned yet. He was very impressive as a stagiaire for BMC with a 4th place in Japan Cup and a 3rd in Classic Impanis-Van Petegem alongside some good showings in Tour of Britain.
 
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What are you guys expecting from Primoz Roglic?

He's riding for Jumbo, so preety much failure.

( and aside that not much, he got beat by Paterski in Crotian MTF, Paterski is hardly a climber, and sure he beat Nieve in Slovenia but that was his biggest peak of the season plus massive motivation, hardly says much, will be a decent climber, but nothing more, could win Tour of Turkey or something)
 
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Vino attacks everyone said:
Lutsenko to take the next step after a "meh" season. Thought he was gonna do very well this year after a really strong Vuelta 14, but didn't really do as well as i'd hoped. 5+ stage wins and "up there" in a few major classics is my prediction
I a recent interview Vino himself said that he expects big things from Lutsenko in 2016.
 
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Maybe this deserves its own thread, but who do you think will step up from the Spanish scene to replace the galactic generation that they still have now (AC, VV, JR, SS). Clearly this generation was something else, and clearly I can't see anyone stepping up from the current lot of 23-27 year olds.
Anybody further down the road?
 
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metaCYCLE said:
Maybe this deserves its own thread, but who do you think will step up from the Spanish scene to replace the galactic generation that they still have now (AC, VV, JR, SS). Clearly this generation was something else, and clearly I can't see anyone stepping up from the current lot of 23-27 year olds.
Anybody further down the road?

1989: Landa
1991: Fernandez
1993: Soler, Roson
1995: Cristian Rodriguez
 
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metaCYCLE said:
Maybe this deserves its own thread, but who do you think will step up from the Spanish scene to replace the galactic generation that they still have now (AC, VV, JR, SS). Clearly this generation was something else, and clearly I can't see anyone stepping up from the current lot of 23-27 year olds.
Anybody further down the road?
Well, AC and AV are exceptional riders. In all likelyhood they won't be replaced anytime soon.
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
metaCYCLE said:
Maybe this deserves its own thread, but who do you think will step up from the Spanish scene to replace the galactic generation that they still have now (AC, VV, JR, SS). Clearly this generation was something else, and clearly I can't see anyone stepping up from the current lot of 23-27 year olds.
Anybody further down the road?
Well, AC and AV are exceptional riders. In all likelyhood they won't be replaced anytime soon.

Ruben Fernandez, Juanjo Lobato, Ion Izaguirre and Mikel Landa. There are probably some other decent riders as well I have forgot. Unsure about Marc Soler. None of these apart form Landa has that 'star potential', but hopefully Ruben Fernandez will evolve into a nice top-10 GC rider eventually.

But in terms of directly replacing those 4, particularly Valv and Contador, they are those kind of one in a generation-type riders.
 
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Gloin22 said:
SafeBet said:
What are you guys expecting from Primoz Roglic?

He's riding for Jumbo, so preety much failure.

( and aside that not much, he got beat by Paterski in Crotian MTF, Paterski is hardly a climber, and sure he beat Nieve in Slovenia but that was his biggest peak of the season plus massive motivation, hardly says much, will be a decent climber, but nothing more, could win Tour of Turkey or something)

Paterski was in a breakaway that day. He had several minutes at the bottom of the climb and was able to hold on. Also the communication between the race radio, team car and the riders was very bad that day, so Roglic didn't know how many riders from the break were still in front of him. Adria Mobil DS was very angry with the organisers after the stage because he thought Roglič would have won the stage and the overall if he had the right information. And while I agree that Paterski is not a climber, he still was in form of his life at the time.

As for Roglič, I don't expect he'll set the world on fire in his first year at this level. It'll be a learning experience for him but still he'll do a good job as a domestique and maybe, if the opportunity comes, have some personal glory on some stages. I have high hopes for him in the future and believe he can become a very good GC rider and compete in hilly one day races.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Hugo Koblet said:
metaCYCLE said:
Maybe this deserves its own thread, but who do you think will step up from the Spanish scene to replace the galactic generation that they still have now (AC, VV, JR, SS). Clearly this generation was something else, and clearly I can't see anyone stepping up from the current lot of 23-27 year olds.
Anybody further down the road?
Well, AC and AV are exceptional riders. In all likelyhood they won't be replaced anytime soon.

Ruben Fernandez, Juanjo Lobato, Ion Izaguirre and Mikel Landa. There are probably some other decent riders as well I have forgot. Unsure about Marc Soler. None of these apart form Landa has that 'star potential', but hopefully Ruben Fernandez will evolve into a nice top-10 GC rider eventually.

But in terms of directly replacing those 4, particularly Valv and Contador, they are those kind of one in a generation-type riders.
I can't see anyone directly replacing Valverde, Contador, Purito, Samu, Freire and Flecha but I can see the riders you mentioned, plus a few others taking a similar amount of wins, even though they probably won't be as big.

Spain may slide a few spaces in the nations rankings for a while but I doubt that they will go into freefall.
 
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42x16ss said:
Valv.Piti said:
Hugo Koblet said:
metaCYCLE said:
Maybe this deserves its own thread, but who do you think will step up from the Spanish scene to replace the galactic generation that they still have now (AC, VV, JR, SS). Clearly this generation was something else, and clearly I can't see anyone stepping up from the current lot of 23-27 year olds.
Anybody further down the road?
Well, AC and AV are exceptional riders. In all likelyhood they won't be replaced anytime soon.

Ruben Fernandez, Juanjo Lobato, Ion Izaguirre and Mikel Landa. There are probably some other decent riders as well I have forgot. Unsure about Marc Soler. None of these apart form Landa has that 'star potential', but hopefully Ruben Fernandez will evolve into a nice top-10 GC rider eventually.

But in terms of directly replacing those 4, particularly Valv and Contador, they are those kind of one in a generation-type riders.
I can't see anyone directly replacing Valverde, Contador, Purito, Samu, Freire and Flecha but I can see the riders you mentioned, plus a few others taking a similar amount of wins, even though they probably won't be as big.

Spain may slide a few spaces in the nations rankings for a while but I doubt that they will go into freefall.

Down to 4th or 5th will be quite a freefall for them, need several mid to late 20's riders to make a big leap, like Landa this year, to limit the fall, younger generation are too far away. The days when AV, JR, and AC trolling each other in the front group are annoying sometimes, but what memories of a long golden age they will be, that Spain will likely not see again for quite awhile.
 
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gunara said:
42x16ss said:
Valv.Piti said:
Hugo Koblet said:
metaCYCLE said:
Maybe this deserves its own thread, but who do you think will step up from the Spanish scene to replace the galactic generation that they still have now (AC, VV, JR, SS). Clearly this generation was something else, and clearly I can't see anyone stepping up from the current lot of 23-27 year olds.
Anybody further down the road?
Well, AC and AV are exceptional riders. In all likelyhood they won't be replaced anytime soon.

Ruben Fernandez, Juanjo Lobato, Ion Izaguirre and Mikel Landa. There are probably some other decent riders as well I have forgot. Unsure about Marc Soler. None of these apart form Landa has that 'star potential', but hopefully Ruben Fernandez will evolve into a nice top-10 GC rider eventually.

But in terms of directly replacing those 4, particularly Valv and Contador, they are those kind of one in a generation-type riders.
I can't see anyone directly replacing Valverde, Contador, Purito, Samu, Freire and Flecha but I can see the riders you mentioned, plus a few others taking a similar amount of wins, even though they probably won't be as big.

Spain may slide a few spaces in the nations rankings for a while but I doubt that they will go into freefall.

Down to 4th or 5th will be quite a freefall for them, need several mid to late 20's riders to make a big leap, like Landa this year, to limit the fall, younger generation are too far away. The days when AV, JR, and AC trolling each other in the front group are annoying sometimes, but what memories of a long golden age they will be, that Spain will likely not see again for quite awhile.

They indeed are be missed and never forgotten. What a generation they are and were!
 

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