Riccò hospitalized for possible kidney ailment

[biopass]

No, the team had started an investigation into the hospitalization and the conclusion of that investigation was such that the team found that Ricco had violated internal rules and was therefore suspended. It all but acknowledge that Ricco doped

But Ricco is still under investigation from the Italian police and CONI? Correct?

 

[Benotti69]

No the investigation of Vacansoleil has been concluded

you are correct. i checked their website just now.

Looks like his career is over then. cant see anyone giving him a place on a team. I suspect alining himself with Sassi was a PR stunt and to generate positive pr for Ricco in Italy to get a ride on the giro.

 

[Barrus]

But Ricco is still under investigation from the Italian police and CONI? Correct?

I think so, I don't know exactly what's going on there, probably at least the Italian Police, I don't know about CONI

 

[Benotti69]

I think so, I don't know exactly what's going on there, probably at least the Italian Police, I don't know about CONI

Gazzetta are reporting

Ricco could be questioned at the end of next week, and not as a person informed of the facts. It's going to the inscription on the register of suspects for violation of the anti-doping law. Also risks charges of sporting fraud.

it goes on to say that the Modena prosecutor suspects Ricco of not acting alone and are investigating people close to the rider, especially someone with experience in nursing.

 

[biopass]

Gazzetta are reporting



it goes on to say that the Modena prosecutor suspects Ricco of not acting alone and are investigating people close to the rider, especially someone with experience in nursing.

So they are hoping to find that single person who could bring Ricco down, the one that can confirm the prejustice of Ricco as the doping addict.

 

[Benotti69]

So they are hoping to find that single person who could bring Ricco down, the one that can confirm the prejustice of Ricco as the doping addict.

sounds like they know there is a nurse involved and know who it is if you read in between the lines.

it is possible that Ricco told this to the doctors or Ambulance crew as they interviewed him on the way to the hospital.

 

[biopass]

sounds like they know there is a nurse involved and know who it is if you read in between the lines.

it is possible that Ricco told this to the doctors or Ambulance crew as they interviewed him on the way to the hospital.

I know one thing. If they could prove that Riccos kidney failure is caused by a bad autologus transfusion, they wouldnt need to find that single person who can bring Ricco down. Simlpy because they would have the evidence needed to bring Ricco down.

 

[webvan]

That test doesn't exist right ?

What a sad story, at least Sassi isn't here to see that...

 

[BroDeal]

Obviously Ricco should have moved to Girona, Spain or somewhere else where the police are much less likely to big deal about such things. He is not too bright.

 

[flicker]

sounds like they know there is a nurse involved and know who it is if you read in between the lines.

it is possible that Ricco told this to the doctors or Ambulance crew as they interviewed him on the way to the hospital.

I thought in cases like Riccos', his crew just drove him down to the doorstep of the Emergency wing, opened the door at about 15 MPH, gave Ricco a good swift kick and sped off. License plates covered of course.

 

[Anonymous]

I thought in cases like Riccos', his crew just drove him down to the doorstep of the Emergency wing, opened the door at about 15 MPH, gave Ricco a good swift kick and sped off. License plates covered of course.

You do enjoy being nasty, don't you? When it's not your hero?

Ricco's dad was the one who called -- this is a human we're discussing...

 

[flicker]

You do enjoy being nasty, don't you? When it's not your hero?

Ricco's dad was the one who called -- this is a human we're discussing...

Sorry bro, I am a Dad too. Pantani is Riccos' hero. Vania was using EPO when breast feeding hers and Ricks child. Rico dumped her so that he could get a pro cycling contract.

No I don't feel sorry for Ricco, but I do feel sorry for Riccos' parents and Riccos' child. The tragedy is not the doping, but taking an extreme health risk when one has children, not a good thing for Riccos' son.

The stink with him lingers.

 

[Spare Tyre]

with a drug overdose the doctor just gives narcan to the patient and he issues a medical report that a person was in danger of life probably because a drug overdose.
then nothing happens because in italy personal use of drugs is not a crime.
it is a crime to sell drug to other people or to keep drug in such a quantity it cannot be considered for personal use.
so the police will receive the medical report and nobody will care about it.
very often doctors do not issue reports to the police in such cases because these reports are useless. but in theory , doctor on duty in the public hospital ( the only ones really treating emergencies) have to issue medical reports for attending patients in danger of life because of violence....

doping is a crime, so it is different.
ricco is popular, so it is different.
police and judges like to investigate on popular people, because that draws attention from the media.
if there was an unknown criterium amateur racer instead of ricco' in the emergency ward of pavullo hospital, probably things will have gone differently.
nobody at the police would have been excited by the medical report eventually issued by the doctor on duty.

anyway , in the ricco case, the doctor did not break any law , since he was working in the nhs and issued a report to the police. at the opposite, if he did not make the report, he could face a prosecution.

obviously things are different if the doctors calls the media to detail what it is happening in the ward.

i hope it is clear, because my english is not very good, but i like to write in this forum

Your English is absolutely fine and your post was one of the clearest and most informative in this thread.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Sorry bro, I am a Dad too. Pantani is Riccos' hero. Vania was using EPO when breast feeding hers and Ricks child. Rico dumped her so that he could get a pro cycling contract.

No I don't feel sorry for Ricco, but I do feel sorry for Riccos' parents and Riccos' child. The tragedy is not the doping, but taking an extreme health risk when one has children, not a good thing for Riccos' son.

The stink with him lingers.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ricco-to-return-with-ceramica-flaminia
Riccò was going to be on the ProConti Ceramica Flaminia long before Vania tested positive (on January 29, 2010). Riccò was still banned at that point. He didn't make the decision to move on until the Rossi affair had blown over and the two were reunited.

A pro contract had nothing to do with Riccò's decision.

A Giro ride, perhaps.

 

[flicker]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ricco-to-return-with-ceramica-flaminia
Riccò was going to be on the ProConti Ceramica Flaminia long before Vania tested positive (on January 29, 2010). Riccò was still banned at that point. He didn't make the decision to move on until the Rossi affair had blown over and the two were reunited.

A pro contract had nothing to do with Riccò's decision.

A Giro ride, perhaps.

Sorry I had my facts wrong. My issue is he abandoned his girlfriend and child. For all the wrong reasons. He sent me the wrong messages about relationships and parenthood. Are you saying that he re-united with her after her B sample was found negative. Are those the Olson twins in your avatar?
If they are the Olson twins that is funny and sad. A candy colored clown they call the sandman.

 

[Ferminal]

Sorry I had my facts wrong. My issue is he abandoned his girlfriend and child. For all the wrong reasons. He sent me the wrong messages about relationships and parenthood. Are you saying that he re-united with her after her B sample was found negative. Are those the Olson twins in your avatar?
If they are the Olson twins that is funny and sad. A candy colored clown they call the sandman.

Where did Ricco "abandon his girlfriend and child".

It is my understanding they are currently in a relationship.

A few things were said in the media, but it seems clear that it was all PR speak.

 

[jimmypop]

Folks, don't forget what flicker's purpose here is.

 

[Anonymous]

Folks, don't forget what flicker's purpose here is.

i know... mea culpa... why did i even try?

 

[flicker]

Where did Ricco "abandon his girlfriend and child".

It is my understanding they are currently in a relationship.

A few things were said in the media, but it seems clear that it was all PR speak.

Syringe
Also on road.cc

http://road.cc/content/news/16209-vania-rossis-b-sample-returns-non-negative-result-cera

I may not be nice but I have not an agenda. Except I try to respect women and family.

 

[Ferminal]

Syringe
Also on road.cc

http://road.cc/content/news/16209-vania-rossis-b-sample-returns-non-negative-result-cera

I may not be nice but I have not an agenda. Except I try to respect women and family.

Yes, exactly:

The pair broke up following Rossi’s positive test for the same substance, with Riccò saying that there could be no reconciliation between the couple until Rossi proved she was completely innocent of the charges leveled against her.

It was an arranged PR stunt in order to "preserve" Ricco's image.

 

[skidmark]

Yes, exactly:



It was an arranged PR stunt in order to "preserve" Ricco's image.

well, it certainly did 'preserve' Ricco's image, that being one of an arrogant, self-centred jerk. That has always been preserved, much better than a sense of integrity, and much better than the blood in his fridge.

 

[Ferminal]

well, it certainly did 'preserve' Ricco's image, that being one of an arrogant, self-centred jerk. That has always been preserved, much better than a sense of integrity, and much better than the blood in his fridge.

Well, read into it what you like, but to me it seems quite obvious that it was for Ricco to keep his distance from doping allegations. Regardless, the point is moot now.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Sorry I had my facts wrong. My issue is he abandoned his girlfriend and child. For all the wrong reasons. He sent me the wrong messages about relationships and parenthood. Are you saying that he re-united with her after her B sample was found negative. Are those the Olson twins in your avatar?
If they are the Olson twins that is funny and sad. A candy colored clown they call the sandman.

OK let me see if I understand you right.
Leaving the mother of your child because she is a doper - bad.
Leaving the mother of your children because she is no longer as hot as the strippers - somehow forgivable.
Is that about right?

 

[flicker]

OK let me see if I understand you right.
Leaving the mother of your child because she is a doper - bad.
Leaving the mother of your children because she is no longer as hot as the strippers - somehow forgivable.
Is that about right?

Ricco did not leave Vania because she was a doper. He left her because if she received a suspension it would put his career in jeopardy. It is not about the dope, I have always said that.
As far as yellow wonder and the aging of women like lukewarm doughnut grease, yeah that is not OK, he is shallow, lacking character I admit it. Not bitter and angry though and he sleeps well at night. Sometimes the one who is left gains more benefit, no. Cycling like life is ambiguous.

 

[Elagabalus]

Ricco did not leave Vania because she was a doper. He left her because if she received a suspension it would put his career in jeopardy. It is not about the dope, I have always said that.
As far as yellow wonder and the aging of women like lukewarm doughnut grease, yeah that is not OK, he is shallow, lacking character I admit it. Not bitter and angry though and he sleeps well at night. Sometimes the one who is left gains more benefit, no. Cycling like life is ambiguous.

It's pretty obvious that he(Ricco) and Vania were in collusion. And that they (together) cooked up this story. That way he could get his pro contract and she could get the man of her dreams at a later date!


I'm only halfway kidding ....