Did not mean it in any disrespect. Any three week tour winner deserves it. I’m pretty sure Ryders had the Stelvio Passstaubsauger said:A Giro d'Italia win is a Giro d'Italia win. The Gavia wouldn't have changed a thing regarding his victory IMHO. It only would've increased its value in a deserved degree!Scarponi said:Ryder still has his soft pedaled girostaubsauger said:Yeah, actually it's a bit of a misfortune for Carapaz that the Gavia got canceled. Since now people rightfully will label his Giro d'Italia victory as a weak edition like with Cunego in 2004.Scarponi said:Let’s hope Carapez can develop another level again because in my opinion it’s a fairly weak GT with a lack of contenders and most of it soft pedaled except 1-2 stages and one attack by Vincenzo. Big attacks from Froome, Contador or riders who attack again and again like Contador used to would be a different ball game. In saying that he can only beat who is in the race , he has shown amazing maturity at 25 to handle the pressure with worrying about a 4 time GT champion going hard.Screecher said:Nibali is fading and the only guy that could maybe challenge him is on the same team. Congrats on the win.