Richard Carapaz discussion thread

[scribers]

I’m leaning they had no idea Yates was that strong and got caught out hideously exposed

 

[scribers]

Carapaz > Yates > IDT > Carapaz = Yates win

 

[SafeBet]

I can't complain about the way he rode yesterday. He's the main reason why the stage turned out being one for the ages.

EF likely underestimated Yates after the Brit was repeatedly dropped by Carapaz in previous stages. They thought an all out attack at the bottom of Finestre would eliminate any other rider not named Del Toro and then Carapaz would outclimb (or outfox) the maglia rosa in mano a mano duel to the top.

It was not to be, but overall his Giro was excellent. I for one never thought he would reach this level again.

 

[Potomac]

For a baseball analogy: Carapaz struck out swinging, Del Toro struck out looking.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Blaming Carapaz that del Toro lost, reading this all over the internet, that is IMHO a bit salty take on it. A lot of fans ended up being butthurt and now they want a scapegoat. In the end Carapaz did more than needed. Being in his place a lot of riders would let del Toro pace much sooner, until failure, than attack. If del Toro was empty, no need to blame him for that either. Maybe on the descend, there he could have do a pull or two. But OK.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Alternative view, perhaps Carapaz should have backed himself and just rode Del Toro of his wheel.
Why just roll over unless he was not feeling that strong.

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929255828546015715

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[Ripper]

Alternative view, perhaps Carapaz should have backed himself and just rode Del Toro of his wheel.
Why just roll over unless he was not feeling that strong.

Well, he did try to ride him off his wheel. Then when he nearly blew up not too far from the top and nearly took himself out, he more or less threw in the towel.

Given del Toro's strengths, it most likely would have been better to ride at a TT pace than surge and settle into tempo repeatedly. Of course, Carapaz tends to be a similar to del Toro in that regard

 

[Sciatic]

Alternative view, perhaps Carapaz should have backed himself and just rode Del Toro of his wheel.
Why just roll over unless he was not feeling that strong.

I don’t get that—he tried and couldn’t dislodge Del Toro one bit. If you mean he just should have ridden high tempo, watched his power meter, and kept going till he dropped him? That’s not the kind of rider is. And extremely hard to do when a rider of equal strength is just sitting on the wheel.

 

[Blanco]

He should forced him to work the moment Yates went. He closed Yates couple of times, and then when he let him go, he should sit on Del Toro's wheel the whole time. Maybe then, geniuses from the UAE car would tell Del Toro that he must chase.

 

[tobydawq]

In retrospect, of course it seems they might have won if if if if. But that's almost always the case when you don't win.,

It's really not.

 

[CyclistAbi]

He should forced him to work the moment Yates went. He closed Yates couple of times, and then when he let him go, he should sit on Del Toro's wheel the whole time. Maybe then, geniuses from the UAE car would tell Del Toro that he must chase.

Well, Carapaz eventually went and did that too, it didn't change a thing. Refusal of del Toro to do anything at all, even on the descend, rather strange. I doubt del Toro will do something like that in the future again, being in such position. If he could do more and UAE told him not to do it, then UAE was just messing with this young guns all along, first Ayuso, then Adam and ultimately del Toro.

 

[Blanco]

Well, Carapaz eventually went and did that too, it didn't change a thing. Refusal of del Toro to do anything at all, even on the descend, rather strange. I doubt del Toro will do something like that in the future again, being in such position. If he could do more and UAE told him not to do it, then UAE was just messing with this young guns all along, first Ayuso, then Adam and ultimately del Toro.

He did that eventually, but I think he should've done that immediately and put the pressure on Del Toro right from the start. This way he rode on the front very long, so actually De Toro and his "masterminds" from the car thought that Carapaz cares about 2nd, which was not the case.

 

[gunara]

Can't say I always like him. But for me he's given different colours to GT in this übermensch era more than any other mortal. He'll be remembered.

 

[CyclistAbi]

He did that eventually, but I think he should've done that immediately and put the pressure on Del Toro right from the start. This way he rode on the front very long, so actually De Toro and his "masterminds" from the car thought that Carapaz cares about 2nd, which was not the case.

Still, why not pull on the descend?

 

[AmRacer]

Still, why not pull on the descend?

Because el Toro didn't pull before the descend and Carapaz wanted to win but failed to drop el Toro. 2 or 3 doesn't mean anything for him.

 

[SafeBet]

Still, why not pull on the descend?

Cause the Giro was lost at that point and he knew that.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Because el Toro didn't pull before the descend and Carapaz wanted to win but failed to drop el Toro. 2 or 3 doesn't mean anything for him.

I meant del Toro.

Cause the Giro was lost at that point and he knew that.

Nah.

 

[AmRacer]

I meant del Toro.



Nah.

Race was decided already, so he be happy with second.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Race was decided already, so he be happy with second.

And then sprinted at the end. It just doesn't add up.

 

[AmRacer]

And then sprinted at the end. It just doesn't add up.

They went slowly in the valley so he could rest a little. But the sprint was unnecessary.

 

[topcat]

They went slowly in the valley so he could rest a little. But the sprint was unnecessary.

Flexing over Carapaz?

 

[AmRacer]

Flexing over Carapaz?

Yeps

 

[Blanco]

Still, why not pull on the descend?

Still a mystery to me...

 

[scribers]

what’s that got to do in the team when your leader would rather roll away the giro because you’ve already won it before