Dazed and Confused said:
True, i doubt he can step it up though. He has never shown that form this year.
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True, i doubt he can step it up though. He has never shown that form this year.
As much as I would like Nibali to win, I think it would be very cool for Richie Porte to pull it off. If he did, it would surely solidify Team Sky as a "dynasty" type team similar to the old days of La Vie Claire.
Wiggo, then Froome, and then Porte .. 3 years in a row.. would be kinda cool i think ?
Wiggo, then Froome, and then Porte .. 3 years in a row.. would be kinda cool i think ?
I did not know Sir B speaks French so well.
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masking_agent said:As much as I would like Nibali to win, I think it would be very cool for Richie Porte to pull it off. If he did, it would surely solidify Team Sky as a "dynasty" type team similar to the old days of La Vie Claire.
Wiggo, then Froome, and then Porte .. 3 years in a row.. would be kinda cool i think ?
the problems is other riders will ride against RP once Nibali gain anther thirty seconds or so. On Stage 10, they already expect RP to tow then jump off him in the final meters.
Miburo said:
Can form not vary during the season? I think Nibali is already looking a lot better than he did as recently as the Dauphine ? If Nibs can be better why not Richie? He did after all get mucked around with his prep due to illness prior to Giro then refocussed on TdF. That could bring him into form late - for weeks 2 and 3. Yes I may be optimistic but I think it is also logical?
While I still don't think Porte will beat Nibali I don't think I'm alone on here thinking he can make it interesting if he does not have any bad days.
Cookster15 said:
Exactly. It is logical.
The question is whether he has enough miles in his legs to have the fitness level required to ride strongly through multiple multiple high mountain stages. If he just has enough base conditioning, and combines that with being fresher than his rivals (and as everyone keeps harping on, avoids having a bad day) then he could still make a race of it. Though of course Nibali has been a podium GT performer on numerous occasions and Porte never, so to some degree we are still talking about 'potential' here.
Dazed and Confused said:
Probably worth noting his worst days the last two years were Stage 9 (before rest day) and 11 (after rest day). He was pretty supreme in the Alps last year, I think if he can survive the next two days he's looking good - not that he's any chance of taking time out of Nibbles barring an explosion, but he can drop some time to the others and still have a great chance at second place given the ITT.
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I don't know if he is gonna stay at SKY or leave, but bonking at least once per GT don't help to get a leader role.
webvan said:
Who was the alternative?
Please don't mention the guy that stopped training for grand tours last year.
JRanton said:
Wiggo is at least more consistent then Porte. But I don't understand why Nieve sacrifices his chances for Porte?
Nieve could make it to the top-10 GC today!?
burgyv said:
Wiggins would have lost minutes on that climb today too. He hasn't trained for the high mountains since before last year's Giro and has admitted himself that his GC days are over.
Think Brailford understood if Wiggo was to be in the team, it made sense he'd be the leader, and this was confirmed by stage 5. BTW, we did confirm today that there was never a plan B.burgyv said:
The guy tried his best,what more he could do.His performances were impressive given that he was in 2nd place till today,after all he was having a **** year,lots of setbacks.Maybe he'll recover and go for a stage win.
MBotero said:
but that should have been his target the moment Froome abandoned. Richie ain't GT material at all- just look back last year when-even with his extraterrestrial performances- in one single stage he lost 20 minutes.... SKY management already knows that, but they needed to PR him as the plan b when there is NONE. He should lose another 10 minutes in the next mountain stage and then go for an stage win with real chances to achieve it...
MBotero said:
Porte is not the one to blame, but Brailsford. Porte is verry strong, but in every GT I've seen he does have one verry bad day. (although I don't know if there appeard some fysical problems?)
Knaven already mentioned Nieve as the man for plan c because he is in a verry good conditions (also was plan b in Dauphine). Nieve waiting on Porte is the only mistake Brailsford made, but I will say that it is a big one.
What happened to all those attacks the funboys were predicting when I called Porte "boring wheelsucker" just the other day?
Once again, this is not some TDU joke race but a TDF!
Once again, this is not some TDU joke race but a TDF!
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