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barmaher said:Richie Porte gets a ridiculously hard time of it in this forum. I had no great love for the guy, but when I read people rubbishing his ability...so many people so strident that he has no chance of doing well....it makes me want him to succeed.
Taxus4a said:Good day for him today.
Night Rider said:Irondan said:On the other hand, a top 10 is a great result for LRP at his first go as a leader in the tour.Son of Amsterhammer said:He needed those 1.45mins. Badly. Unless he is in the best form of his life, a podium is highly unlikely. Which is a shame for him. I hope it doesn't turn out that way though.
Effective leader in 2014. He went in to the 2014 tour as the back up leader to Froome and that was enacted on stage 5 when Froome crashed. Porte was sitting 2nd and cracked big time in the mountains.
He does not have the strength, physically or mentally to last a three week tour.
I am a big fan of #LRP if only because of his initials and acronym with the felicitous prefix L.Night Rider said:I think you may have quoted the wrong person there, Mr Ho. I'm about as far removed from the LRP fan club as you can get :surprised:
Night Rider said:I think you may have quoted the wrong person there, Mr Ho. I'm about as far removed from the LRP fan club as you can get :surprised:
Galic Ho said:Night Rider said:I think you may have quoted the wrong person there, Mr Ho. I'm about as far removed from the LRP fan club as you can get :surprised:
The quote reference system on here is not the same as it was years and years ago. I don't look at this corner of the world often...I might have clicked the reply button to the wrong quote. My apologies.
LRP will have fun helping his team mate.
Maybe Greg van Avermaet was the hidden team leader?
BMC did something, so well done to Greg. If what the team has said was SERIOUS, then taking yellow was a STUPID idea. Granted I think they've been over estimating their potential, good for them though. At least they can now leave the Tour with something.
Personally, if Tinkoff do split up, Contador will need a team next year. Tejay and Porte would make FINE domestiques.
Cookster15 said:How did Richie look today? Certainly a lot better than his future team leader Alberto . Contador had falls and Giro in his legs in 2011 but didn't look this bad. Lets face it Alberto is past his best and his team knows it. Porte riding for Contador makes no sense at all these days.
If LRP doesn't have his obligatory bad day on Arcalis then he should be looking good by tomorrow night. Massive day coming up.
Cookster15 said:How did Richie look today? Certainly a lot better than his future team leader Alberto . Contador had falls and Giro in his legs in 2011 but didn't look this bad. Lets face it Alberto is past his best and his team knows it. Porte riding for Contador makes no sense at all these days.
If LRP doesn't have his obligatory bad day on Arcalis then he should be looking good by tomorrow night. Massive day coming up.
Cookster15 said:When did Contador look at his best? 2011 Giro was close. 2009 was probably his absolute peak performance - Verbier. and despite his team backing Lance But never got to that level since. 2012 and 2014 Vuelta - nope. Giro 2015 nope. Yes might still be capable of winning GTs but he's past his best. Its just that less than best for AC is still capable of beating the best around - especially at the Vuelta. The guy won his first Tour 10 years ago - at 24, do you fan boys think he is some sort of god? He's human. Horner winning the Vuelta at nearly at 42 is what I call an outlier. Evans is just older than average and his road career started late plus had a string of broken collarbones and then got held back by Telekom with their boy Jan. Lenric answered his own question about 2011 TDF - Evans pushed less watts per kilo than Froome at the following years (and Quintana, Nibali, etc). 2011 TDF was the slowest climbing before or since. Why can't be discussed here.
No arguments from me about AC's palmeres - absolutely the best rider of his generation. Know how my brain works? LOL. Nobody knows how people's brains work, especially on a cycling forum. :lol: One of the funniest things I've ever read on here other than people who take an hour to write a long winded reply on a minor opinion I'm pretty certain many other fans share even if a minority.
So getting back to Richie. I am hoping his obligatory bad day doesn't come tonight. If not I think he'll be looking good. Which was my original point.
Cookster15 said:When did Contador look at his best? 2011 Giro was close. 2009 was probably his absolute peak performance - Verbier. and despite his team backing Lance But never got to that level since. 2012 and 2014 Vuelta - nope. Giro 2015 nope. Yes might still be capable of winning GTs but he's past his best. Its just that less than best for AC is still capable of beating the best around - especially at the Vuelta. The guy won his first Tour 10 years ago - at 24, do you fan boys think he is some sort of god? He's human, everybody has a use by date. Horner winning the Vuelta at nearly at 42 is what I call an outlier. Evans is just older than average and his road career started late plus had a string of broken collarbones and then got held back by Telekom with their boy Jan. Lenric answered his own question about 2011 TDF - Evans pushed less watts per kilo than Froome at the following years (and Quintana, Nibali, etc). 2011 TDF was the slowest climbing before or since. Why can't be discussed here.
No arguments from me about AC's palmeres - absolutely the best rider of his generation. Know how my brain works? LOL. Nobody knows how people's brains work, especially on a cycling forum. :lol: One of the funniest things I've ever read on here other than people who take an hour to write a long winded reply on a minor opinion I'm pretty certain many other fans share even if a minority.
So getting back to Richie. I am hoping his obligatory bad day doesn't come tonight. If not I think he'll be looking good. Which was my original point.
DBotero said:Good today but still a lot of work in front of him.Hopefully this time his form will last until the end of the race.
Cookster15 said:Galic, people change their minds from 6 years ago - I actually respect Contador more now than back then. Please keep up. But I 100% stand by my comments he is past his best - its getting obvious now even when he's fresh. That doesn't mean I don't respect his palmares. Not sure how many more times I have to write that to guys like you or Hitch. My memory is much better than you realise and I've been following the sport for well over 20 years. But I suppose I should be flattered you remembered that last essay you wrote so long ago .
For the record I don't hold much hope for Porte - no more than you. Simply enjoying it while it lasts. Now back to stage 9....
movingtarget said:DBotero said:Good today but still a lot of work in front of him.Hopefully this time his form will last until the end of the race.
I think he made a mistake today. In the last few kms he was obviously strong, there was no point doing stop start attacks when he is almost two minutes down. He should have ridden like Dumoulin did and ridden for time. If he did he would have put even more time into riders like Aru and others that finished behind him. Even if he was out sprinted it would not have mattered as for him it's a matter of time to make up.
DBotero said:movingtarget said:DBotero said:Good today but still a lot of work in front of him.Hopefully this time his form will last until the end of the race.
I think he made a mistake today. In the last few kms he was obviously strong, there was no point doing stop start attacks when he is almost two minutes down. He should have ridden like Dumoulin did and ridden for time. If he did he would have put even more time into riders like Aru and others that finished behind him. Even if he was out sprinted it would not have mattered as for him it's a matter of time to make up.
Maybe some team orders were involved because it seemed he was looking for TVG.