Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[Galic Ho]

...and back in the real world, Team Sky won a race.

In the real world are you a groupie?

Because in the real world, dopers win. A lot. Realist's see that. Fanboys and dopers lackeys aka groupie, don't.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

...and back in the real world, Team Sky won a race.

No, a guy who less than three years ago was thrown out of the Giro Mortirolo stage because he was hanging on a motorbike like he is friggin Mark Cavendish is now sprinting uphill like Lance Armstrong. In the build up for the season, guess what he is capable of when he is 100%

His teammember the notorious B.W. lost only 35 minutes that day. Showing his true talent.

And, Porte? Well he was on the dark team of devil Bjarne those days, getting whooped every day by Mollema, now sprinting away from the same Blanco rider on every occasion he gets.

Indeed, absolutely normal.

 

[Non Grimpeur]

I watched the stage end on YouTube. Froome looked bad doing what he did. Porte was worse. Looked like Armstrong use to. Didn't even need to hop out of the saddle. Just put the gas down and dropped everyone. Caught the chase group of Peraud, Mollema and co and just distanced them like it was nothing. Looked just like LA back in the day.

We're gonna be seeing a lot more of that this year. Extraterrestrial. Out of this world. Abnormal. Something clearly wrong and dirty is going on behind the scenes. They're power hungry. I wonder if some of the guys who left the team after the whole USADA case came up, who had to be exorcised for image purposes, were telling the team during the race to keep it kind of real. Yesterday was anything but. They've been let off the leash and both Froome and Porte are frothing at the mouth. They're like pack dogs...they psyche each other up and are high on their clear power advantage.

All aboard the freak train doping express to hell courtesy of SkyNet and the SkyBorgs!! Fasten your seat belts people, it's gonna be one hell of a ride. Prepare yourself for a potential crash as this train is bucking the rail tracks.

My thoughts too. He was hardly breathing.

Unlike others on this forum, I actually find Wiggins's performances to be credible. I watched him in the Tour of Catalunya last week and he was breathing quite hard and making some faces on the climbs. Plus Wiggins has always been a top quality athlete with a great motor but just used it on the track in the past.

I look at Froome on the other hand and don't like what I see. This guy was a very average rider two years ago. I just get suspicious when I see his kind of explosiveness on the mountains and see them at the finish as fresh as a daisy. Contador is/was in the same category.

In stark contrast, I watched some cross country skiing on TV yesterday (a sport with an interesting past too) but the top three finishers were flat on their backs at the finish and panting like dogs. When do we see that in pro cycling? Certainly not with Froome.

 

[Ferminal]

In stark contrast, I watched some cross country skiing on TV yesterday (a sport with an interesting past too) but the top three finishers were flat on their backs at the finish and panting like dogs. When do we see that in pro cycling? Certainly not with Froome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgD2Urhekg4&feature=player_detailpage#t=150s

Sorry couldn't help myself

 

[webvan]

Impressive indeed ! Don't think I'd seen that since Pensec was half dead at the top of Alpe d'Huez !

 

[Galic Ho]

My thoughts too. He was hardly breathing.

Unlike others on this forum, I actually find Wiggins's performances to be credible. I watched him in the Tour of Catalunya last week and he was breathing quite hard and making some faces on the climbs. Plus Wiggins has always been a top quality athlete with a great motor but just used it on the track in the past.

His big aim starts earlier. Saving the blood bags for May. Froome and Porte don't race that month. Or if Porte does he isn't going for the win. But Wiggins is way behind those two ATM.

I look at Froome on the other hand and don't like what I see. This guy was a very average rider two years ago. I just get suspicious when I see his kind of explosiveness on the mountains and see them at the finish as fresh as a daisy. Contador is/was in the same category.

In stark contrast, I watched some cross country skiing on TV yesterday (a sport with an interesting past too) but the top three finishers were flat on their backs at the finish and panting like dogs. When do we see that in pro cycling? Certainly not with Froome.

Froome looked really bad. He was pushing 105-110 cadence by the looks of it. Lower gear ratios, pulling some fine wattages. Never relented. Other guys tried to match him and blew up. But it had nothing on Porte. When he went, he dropped everyone with such ease it was ridiculous. Van Garderen had nothing. He did it by simply pushing a bigger gear. Same cadence as before, big gear. Richie Porte was the shocking one from what I saw. No way he ever had that kind of power riding for Riis and Saxo.

The thing that should concern all the Sky fans and the team is that it was very obvious both riders could have massacred the entire squad. I mean Porte's after race story was he didn't have the legs to go with Froome. Blatant lie. He put more power down on his attack than Froome had done with his. You could tell by how quickly he gapped everyone when he went with 2km to go. It took Froome some time to get a gap over Peraud. I seriously believe nobody is going to reign them in this year. It is actually looking like they were told to slow down last year. The Tour is going to be gangbusters for doped up riding. The Giro? Who knows. But Wiggins is not at the level of Froome or Porte ATM.

Richie made it look super duper easy. Just like Lance use to. Worse, Froome looks dodgy riding. His form and technique are a joke. Porte is the opposite. He could have held the win if he wanted to despite Froome's attack. I think he had a lot more to give. Yesterday was all about giving his buddy a win after he lost Tirreno. I am beating Richie is showing loyalty so the team make him Vuelta GC leader. He truly has some serious power advantages over the rest of the peloton. Over Contador or Purito? Even Valverde? Dunno at this stage...but Sky have fired the first shots this year. From Porte no less. As I said, get ready for a rough ride, because this year is gonna be a cracker.

 

[willbick]

Froome not looking tired at the end of climbs, just nonsense.

 

[doperhopper]

...and back in the real world, Team Sky won a race.

also sprach ZaratBrailsford:

"If people want the entertainment value of riders attacking each other, stopping, attacking each other again and again, then go back to 'old cycling', which will give you the capability to do that," he said.

"If you want clean sport and clean cycling, then it's going to be different. You can't have it both ways. There's an element of reality about what were doing."

 

[the sceptic]

Brentford is hillarious. Attacking and agressive riding is only possible with doping, thus in this new era of clean cycling he has his riders just ride at the front all day long instead, preventing everyone from attacking.

Now that Dawg and Porte are able to attack like in the good old days as well, the cycling philosopher must be busy coming up with some new explanation on how this is also a sign of clean cycling.

 

[xcleigh]

Froome looked really bad. He was pushing 105-110 cadence by the looks of it . Lower gear ratios, pulling some fine wattages....... But it had nothing on Porte. When he went, he dropped everyone with such ease it was ridiculous. Van Garderen had nothing. He did it by simply pushing a bigger gear. Same cadence as before, big gear. Richie Porte was the shocking one from what I saw. No way he ever had that kind of power riding for Riis and Saxo.

The thing that should concern all the Sky fans and the team is that it was very obvious both riders could have massacred the entire squad. I mean Porte's after race story was he didn't have the legs to go with Froome. Blatant lie. He put more power down on his attack than Froome had done with his. You could tell by how quickly he gapped everyone when he went with 2km to go. .

Amazing what you can discern just from looking at TV pictures, or do you have access to the SRM files of both riders?
As to Porte not having the legs to go with Froome, I haven't seen any interview where Porte states that, so unless you have a link?

 

[Benotti69]

Amazing what you can discern just from looking at TV pictures, or do you have access to the SRM files of both riders?
As to Porte not having the legs to go with Froome, I haven't seen any interview where Porte states that, so unless you have a link?

So whatever Porte states is gonna be the truth? When did pro cyclists start telling the truth?

 

[hrotha]

Froome not looking tired at the end of climbs, just nonsense.

Yes, the notion that some professional riders could be doping is so preposterous it's a conspiracy theory.

 

[Cookster15]

Amazing what you can discern just from looking at TV pictures, or do you have access to the SRM files of both riders?
As to Porte not having the legs to go with Froome, I haven't seen any interview where Porte states that, so unless you have a link?

Well Mick Rogers is riding as leader of Saxo-Tinkoff at Criterium International yet he finished 1.44 down on Porte on the Col de l’Ospedale. Wouldn't have happened in 2012. You don't need to see SRM data to know something doesn't seem right. Paranoid nutbags - I don't think so.

 

[xcleigh]

Well Mick Rogers is riding as leader of Saxo-Tinkoff at Criterium International yet he finished 1.44 down on Porte on the Col de l’Ospedale. Wouldn't have happened in 2012. You don't need to see SRM data to know something doesn't seem right. Paranoid nutbags - I don't think so.

I think you'll find I was questioning very specific statements made by GalicHo to the wattages, cadence, power etc, etc of Froome and Porte discerned just from watching TV pictures.

 

[Cyivel]

Froome not looking tired at the end of climbs, just nonsense.

You said the other week that it isn't possible for a clean rider to attack for more than a km or two, so by your own definition you must think Froome is on something after yesterday

 

[BYOP88]

You said the other week that it isn't possible for a clean rider to attack for more than a km or two, so by your own definition you must think Froome is on something after yesterday

Indeed Froome dawg went with 6.1 left.

 

[xcleigh]

So whatever Porte states is gonna be the truth? When did pro cyclists start telling the truth?

So basically we can't trust anything that pro cyclists say? Ok got it.

Just to clarify, what GalicHo says Porte said "I mean Porte's after race story was he didn't have the legs to go with Froome. Blatant lie"

(This may be true, but I haven't seen anywhere it says that) what I've read is the following

Having no qualms about sacrificing his overnight lead for the good of the team, Porte added: “Tactically we were spot on today. The team were absolutely incredible and it’s just a shame you don’t get to see all the work guys like Joe [Dombrowski], Jon [Tiernan-Locke], Xabi [Zandio], Kosta [Siutsou] and Vasil [Kiryienka] do to get us to that point where Froomey and I can attack at the end.

“Froomey set a hard tempo after Kiryienka’s mammoth turn and I thought I’d let a small gap go to see what happened, and that was the last we saw of Froomey, he was gone (laughs).

“It wasn’t planned but it worked out perfectly. We ride together every day so we know each other so well, and when he went nobody reacted so he had to continue.

"As I said yesterday, the only important thing was that Team Sky won today. It’s always special to get a one-two on the podium, especially given the strength of the field we had here, and we’re super happy.”


Doh, but then he's lying about all that isn't he? Sorry Trust know one......what was that?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Watch Richie win Pais Vasco next week. It will be a massacre.

 

[BYOP88]

He only needs a handful of points to better his cq score from last year. Going to need a rather large $uitca$e for all that extra ca$h $ky will give him.

 

[Cimber]

So basically we can't trust anything that pro cyclists say? Ok got it.

About doping? Most likely not. History speaks for it self

 

[uphillstruggle]

Forget the doping the UCI needs to crack down on those ridiculous length socks.

 

[willbick]

You said the other week that it isn't possible for a clean rider to attack for more than a km or two, so by your own definition you must think Froome is on something after yesterday

No i didnt. I may have said something vaguely yrelated to that but i certainly didnt say that

 

[willbick]

Btw the dont believe for one second that Porte couldnt have gone with Froome when he attcked. He clearly just let him go, probably a prearranged plan

 

[Samson]

Btw the dont believe for one second that Porte couldnt have gone with Froome when he attcked. He clearly just let him go, probably a prearranged plan

He took 20s back so easily.

 

[Cyivel]

No i didnt. I may have said something vaguely yrelated to that but i certainly didnt say that

You said this

maybe if contador didnt attack 3km out like it was still 2009 he might finish a lot closer to Froome who has the braincell required to wait till 1km before attacking so he doesnt die before the finish

are u being sarcastic netserk? it is pretty clear that clean riders can only sustain a big effort at the end of a MTF for a short time so attacking several km's out is pretty pointless. u will just get slowly reeled back and then have less left for the finish

So yeah clean riders can sustain attacks for less than several kms which in your previous post you clearly feel is less than 3kms