Rider schedules for 2016.

[Velolover2]

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If I were Brrailsford I'd keep Landa's and Froome's schedule as distant as possible, like Astana do with Nibali and Aru.

Yep. And that is going to happen. It's not even debatable.

Now that Contador is riding Paris-Nice too, there is a 99% chance that Froome will be there.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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If I were Brrailsford I'd keep Landa's and Froome's schedule as distant as possible, like Astana do with Nibali and Aru.

Yep. And that is going to happen. It's not even debatable.

Now that Contador is riding Paris-Nice too, there is a 99% chance that Froome will be there.

Or maybe he will skip the early March race altogether stating he is "ill", then suck at Catalunya like this year and last year.

 

[johnymax]

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Really? Thomas ahead of Landa in the GC pecking order at Sky? Aru I can just about understand but Thomas?

I don't know if Landa is 100% for Tirreno even if he is number 2 but this guy should be leading stage races, so split the Froome/Landa calendar and send one to PN and one to TA. Try Froome at PN considering over the last 3 years when he's been good, he's never won TA. I know Thomas is the loyal Team Sky PR puppet who never says anything negative about the team but most teams should ride to win, and IMO Landa offers a better option than Thomas.

If I were Brrailsford I'd keep Landa's and Froome's schedule as distant as possible, like Astana do with Nibali and Aru.

I disagree. In one week stage races with an ITT Thomas is a way better option than Landa if you go for the win. In a GT it's another story.

 

[HelloDolly]

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If I were Brrailsford I'd keep Landa's and Froome's schedule as distant as possible, like Astana do with Nibali and Aru.

Yep. And that is going to happen. It's not even debatable.

Now that Contador is riding Paris-Nice too, there is a 99% chance that Froome will be there.

We are all surmising here so why you think your view is certain is beyond me ... Thomas will ride some of the early stage races without Froome as he has said he will target stage races as leader. Brailsford has also said this and I suspect that Landa will ride sometimes with Froome. Landa is not a better bet for stage race wins as his TT is far inferior to Thomas or Kwait. You view is not the definitive truth of the situation especially as SKY themselves have not yet decided schedules

 

[HelloDolly]

And as I have been saying all along Landa will ride for Froome at the Tour...this is why SKY have employed him ...they need help to win the Tour...very few non cycling fans watch or care about the Giro. SKY is a brand that wants global attention and the only race that gives them that is the Tour

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[Brullnux]

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And as I have been saying all along Landa will ride for Froome at the Tour...this is why SKY have employed him ...they need help to win the Tour...very few non cycling fans watch or care about the Giro. SKY is a brand that wants global attention and the only race that gives them that is the Tour

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Which is why so many cycling fans have a dislike for SKY

 

[Red Rick]

Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

I dont get the critic, its completely the same Heras got hired for: Going for the win in one of the GT's and help the best GT-rider win the biggest race on the planet. I cannot see anything wrong with that, but its Sky, so lets bash them. Also, I don't think you'll see Landa slave or whatever for Froome, I think he will show at the front very little up until the last week, along with a couple of other days. I think its obvious they will try to keep Thomas even more protected than last year considering everything we have heard about his 2016-season and thats why Landa should be a lock now that Porte is gone to have that elite 100% devoted mountain domestique. All of Nieve, Konig and the anorexious Poels have shown climbing prowess, but not consistently and thats why Landa obviously will be super important.

 

[staubsauger]

Landa is probably going to win the Giro in 2016 and/or 2017 with Sky and might have a shot at the polka dot jersey while being a super-domestique for Froome.

I ain't got no clue what's so bad about that? After all he got a leadership / free role in the worlds best (stage race) cycling team at the moment. Something he wouldn't have gotten at Movistar immediately and ain't been given at Astana at all!

Who knows what's in 3 or 4 years!?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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And as I have been saying all along Landa will ride for Froome at the Tour...this is why SKY have employed him ...they need help to win the Tour...very few non cycling fans watch or care about the Giro. SKY is a brand that wants global attention and the only race that gives them that is the Tour

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-route-mikel-landa-aider-froome-au-tour-de-france-landa-teamsky-astana-cycling-cyclisme-53864.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

That can't be true. Velolover2, who's always right when it comes to schedules, says he won't ride the Tour.

 

[Brullnux]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Umm... Nibali?

 

[MatParker1711]

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Landa is probably going to win the Giro in 2016 and/or 2017 with Sky and might have a shot at the polka dot jersey while being a super-domestique for Froome.

I ain't got no clue what's so bad about that? After all he got a leadership / free role in the worlds best (stage race) cycling team at the moment. Something he wouldn't have gotten at Movistar immediately and ain't been given at Astana at all!

Who knows what's in 3 or 4 years!?

Wouldn't be shocked if he won a stage in the third week, if he's half an hour down there's a couple of stages which he could be allowed in the break.

 

[MatParker1711]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Have a feeling the Vuelta is for Benat and Nico for Sky.

 

[Red Rick]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Umm... Nibali?

Has Rio as a legit target, Landa would be incredibly lucky to even go to Rio, let alone as a team leader

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Umm... Nibali?

Has Rio as a legit target, Landa would be incredibly lucky to even go to Rio, let alone as a team leader

You make zero sense as usual mate

 

[Brullnux]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Umm... Nibali?

Has Rio as a legit target, Landa would be incredibly lucky to even go to Rio, let alone as a team leader

You make zero sense as usual mate

He's saying that Nibali is peaking for early August, rather than the Vuelta like Landa. Makes sense really.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Landa has said that his form is top in first half of the season and is no where in last part . No way was he ever going to be favourite for the Vuelta or even Sky's leader

If he can win Tour of the Basque country & Giro, help Froome win the Tour & Spain (Valverde or Contdor or Purito) win the Olympic gold then he will have had very good season
(maybe a win in second class races like Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia or Vuelta a Castilla y Leon)

 

[Red Rick]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Landa has said that his form is top in first half of the season and is no where in last part . No way was he ever going to be favourite for the Vuelta or even Sky's leader

If he can win Tour of the Basque country & Giro, help Froome win the Tour & Spain (Valverde or Contdor or Purito) win the Olympic gold then he will have had very good season
(maybe a win in second class races like Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia or Vuelta a Castilla y Leon)

Did you watch the Vuelta this year? Landa was amongst the best climbers in the race

 

[MatParker1711]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Landa has said that his form is top in first half of the season and is no where in last part . No way was he ever going to be favourite for the Vuelta or even Sky's leader

If he can win Tour of the Basque country & Giro, help Froome win the Tour & Spain (Valverde or Contdor or Purito) win the Olympic gold then he will have had very good season
(maybe a win in second class races like Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia or Vuelta a Castilla y Leon)

Did you watch the Vuelta this year? Landa was amongst the best climbers in the race

That's why he's going to France so he Leopold Konig, Wout Poels and Geraint Thomas can put the hurt on Froome's rivals, that and maybe go in a mountain break or two in the third week. Like I said there are a couple of stages where he could go up the road and give his teammates a rest if he's forty plus minutes down.

 

[Mr.White]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Landa has said that his form is top in first half of the season and is no where in last part . No way was he ever going to be favourite for the Vuelta or even Sky's leader

If he can win Tour of the Basque country & Giro, help Froome win the Tour & Spain (Valverde or Contdor or Purito) win the Olympic gold then he will have had very good season
(maybe a win in second class races like Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia or Vuelta a Castilla y Leon)

Landa will hardly win Pais Vasco, or Vuelta a Murcia (which is one-day race nowadays)

 

[MatParker1711]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Landa has said that his form is top in first half of the season and is no where in last part . No way was he ever going to be favourite for the Vuelta or even Sky's leader

If he can win Tour of the Basque country & Giro, help Froome win the Tour & Spain (Valverde or Contdor or Purito) win the Olympic gold then he will have had very good season
(maybe a win in second class races like Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia or Vuelta a Castilla y Leon)

Landa will hardly win Pais Vasco, or Vuelta a Murcia (which is one-day race nowadays)

He's riding for Intxausti at Pais Vasco apparently.

 

[Ruudz0r]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Landa has said that his form is top in first half of the season and is no where in last part . No way was he ever going to be favourite for the Vuelta or even Sky's leader

If he can win Tour of the Basque country & Giro, help Froome win the Tour & Spain (Valverde or Contdor or Purito) win the Olympic gold then he will have had very good season
(maybe a win in second class races like Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia or Vuelta a Castilla y Leon)

Landa will hardly win Pais Vasco, or Vuelta a Murcia (which is one-day race nowadays)

He's riding for Intxausti at Pais Vasco apparently.

Pais Vasco is pretty much the perfect race for SL Henao, he will lead there I think

 

[HelloDolly]

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Lol, rather him slave during the Tour than ride the Vuelta which he'd be the big favourite for.

It's a gift that keeps on giving

Landa has said that his form is top in first half of the season and is no where in last part . No way was he ever going to be favourite for the Vuelta or even Sky's leader

If he can win Tour of the Basque country & Giro, help Froome win the Tour & Spain (Valverde or Contdor or Purito) win the Olympic gold then he will have had very good season
(maybe a win in second class races like Vuelta Ciclista a Murcia or Vuelta a Castilla y Leon)

Did you watch the Vuelta this year? Landa was amongst the best climbers in the race

No the question is 'Did you watch the Vuelta this year ?"
Landa was not the best climber at the Vuelta 2015.(What race were you watching).He was very good on a few days and MIA on other days. Easy to be good when you rest up most of the time. One swallow does not a summer make. His overall form was no where near Aru or Purito or Dumoulin , etc
I think you should maybe think carefully before you make statements about 'best in race' because that is usually the top 10 and has something to do with consistency not just a few days climbing. Is a 3 week race

 

[staubsauger]

I still expect the Basques to design a route that favors their homeboy Landa. If Sky does a strong ttt in T-A he's also a contender.

The Giro victory ain't no given against Nibali, after all. But he should be able to get a podium spot, win 2 or 3 mountain stages and get the mountains jersey this time, thanks to the new point systems in this classification.

At the Tour, he maybe gets a free role. If Sky sends him up the road, so they have less to control he's also a big help for Froome in another way. He can win a stage like Ventoux in that case, be Froome's last man in the mountains on some other days and archive the polka dot jersey that way.

But maybe he wins the Giro in great fashion and then Sky decides he should go to the TdS to take advantage of his current shape. That's also a (not so likely though) possibility.

My forecast is he wins Basque Country and/or T-A, the blue jersey while being runner-up at the Giro, and the polka dot jersey + the Ventoux stage at the Tour.

In 2017 we might see a more climbers friendly anniversary edition of the Giro. There he should truly have a shot at winning. Even against Aru and Quintana.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I still expect the Basques to design a route that favors their homeboy Landa. If Sky does a strong ttt in T-A he's also a contender.

The Giro victory ain't no given against Nibali, after all. But he should be able to get a podium spot, win 2 or 3 mountain stages and get the mountains jersey this time, thanks to the new point systems in this classification.

At the Tour, he maybe gets a free role. If Sky sends him up the road, so they have less to control he's also a big help for Froome in another way. He can win a stage like Ventoux in that case, be Froome's last man in the mountains on some other days and archive the polka dot jersey that way.

But maybe he wins the Giro in great fashion and then Sky decides he should go to the TdS to take advantage of his current shape. That's also a (not so likely though) possibility.

My forecast is he wins Basque Country and/or T-A, the blue jersey while being runner-up at the Giro, and the polka dot jersey + the Ventoux stage at the Tour.

In 2017 we might see a more climbers friendly anniversary edition of the Giro. There he should truly have a shot at winning. Even against Aru and Quintana.

No way Landa wins the polka in the Tour, neither the Ventoux, its completely flat beforehand, so no crazy break with good mountain domestiques..