Riding Against both Father and Son

[RedheadDane]

So, I got curious and did a bit of snooping around. There are a bunch of riders in the pro peloton who have been riding against both a father and his son. Here are a few examples:

Mauri and Wim Vansevenant (any riders who turned pro in 2008 or earlier)
Rick and Erik Zabel (same as above)
Pavel and Alexei (2005 or earlier)

Anyone who can think of others (doesn't have to involve currently active riders)?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Jose and Jeison Rujano. Both even rode this year's Vuelta al Tachira en Bicicleta!

 

[RedheadDane]

Jose and Jeison Rujano. Both even rode this year's Vuelta al Tachira en Bicicleta!

I'll wait with those until Jeison actually turns pro.

 

[Ricco']

So, I got curious and did a bit of snooping around. There are a bunch of riders in the pro peloton who have been riding against both a father and his son. Here are a few examples:

Mauri and Wim Vansevenant (any riders who turned pro in 2008 or earlier)
Rick and Erik Zabel (same as above)
Pavel and Alexei (2005 or earlier)

Anyone who can think of others (doesn't have to involve currently active riders)?

Rebellin needs to be in a race with Mauri Vansevenant and Pavel Sivakov to race with both dads and sons of that three pairs.

If Rebellin starts in a race with Mathieu van der Poel, he also races with both son and dad, as he did some races with Adrie van der Poel in the beginning of the 90s.

Valverde, although active at the same time, didn't take part in any race with Aleksey Sivakov, but he could have done the same.

 

[RedheadDane]

Rebellin needs to be in a race with Mauri Vansevenant and Pavel Sivakov to race with both dads and sons of that three pairs.

If Rebellin starts in a race with Mathieu van der Poel, he also races with both son and dad, as he did some races with Adrie van der Poel in the beginning of the 90s.

Valverde, although active at the same time, didn't take part in any race with Aleksey Sivakov, but he could have done the same.

Okay, I wasn't being that literal. Not necessarily "in the same race as" but simply "raced at the same time". Just thought "Career Overlapping With both Father and Son" would make too clunky a title.

 

[Ricco']

Okay, I wasn't being that literal. Not necessarily "in the same race as" but simply "raced at the same time". Just thought "Career Overlapping With both Father and Son" would make too clunky a title.

I understood.

I was trying to go to another level.

Just to show Rebellin's longevity. He probably is trying to wait until he can race with Vino's childs or something like that.

 

[RedheadDane]

Just to show Rebellin's longevity. He probably is trying to wait until he can race with Vino's childs or something like that.

Alaphilippe's child!

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Tom Boonen raced against Nicola Minali (e.g. at Paris-Tours 2002) and against Riccardo Minali (e.g. at Paris-Roubaix 2017).

Maarten den Bakker raced against Roman Kreuziger Sr. (e.g. at Milan-Sanremo 1992) and against Roman Kreuziger Jr. (e.g. at Volta a Catalunya 2006).

 

[Gigs_98]

Toward the beginning of his career Nibali rode against that old ass american Christopher Horner. Then a few years later he lost the Vuelta against who must have been his son, who showed some family resemblance but I still refuse to believe actually was Chris Horner.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Bert Grabsch rode against Uwe Ampler in the 2000 Österreich-Rundfahrt as a youngster for Team Cologne in the Ostbloc legend's last ever race. He then rode against Rick Ampler, Uwe's son, in the 2011 Münsterland Giro, when he was a veteran for HTC-High Road and Rick was on the U23 German national team.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Stijn Devolder rode against Laurent Madouas and Valentin Madouas.

 

[Bonimenier]

I think he only rode against Adrie VDP on the road, but Sven Nys did cross against Adrie, Mathieu and David.

David Dekker might have raced against some guys Erik Dekker raced against already. If not he certainly will this year.

 

[RedheadDane]

What about the Van Poppels? Or the Roches?
I suspect the Martinellis would be a stretch, since Giuseppe stopped way back in 1985, and Davide only turned pro in 2012.

I think he only rode against Adrie VDP on the road, but Sven Nys did cross against Adrie, Mathieu and David.

And now I'm pretty sure Mathieu and David has been doing cross against Thibau - or at least will at some point.

 

[tobydawq]

What about the Van Poppels? Or the Roches?
I suspect the Martinellis would be a stretch, since Giuseppe stopped way back in 1985, and Davide only turned pro in 2012.



And now I'm pretty sure Mathieu and David has been doing cross against Thibau - or at least will at some point.

Danny and Boy van Poppel are brothers, not father and son. Embarrassing mistake.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Mauri and Wim Vansevenant (any riders who turned pro in 2008 or earlier)
Rick and Erik Zabel (same as above)
Pavel and Alexei (2005 or earlier)

Valverde raced against all three of those father and son pairs.

 

[wansteadimp]

What about the Van Poppels? Or the Roches?
I suspect the Martinellis would be a stretch, since Giuseppe stopped way back in 1985, and Davide only turned pro in 2012.



And now I'm pretty sure Mathieu and David has been doing cross against Thibau - or at least will at some point.

Armstrong won Stephen Roche's last race, the 1993 WC and Nico rode the 2009 TdeF with Armstrong.

 

[Bonimenier]

Sean Kelly might be one of the few riders to ride against both Eddy Merckx and his superior son, Axel. Both Kelly and Axel Merckx rode Catalunya in 1993 and Driedaagse De Panne in 1994.

 

[Anderis]

Valverde raced against all three of those father and son pairs.

I bet Valverde is also going to race against his son and his son's son- thus racing against another father-son pair.

 

[pmcg76]

Armstrong won Stephen Roche's last race, the 1993 WC and Nico rode the 2009 TdeF with Armstrong.

Yeah, a few more guys would have raced against Roche Snr and Jnr as well, Rebellin of course, Cipollini, Jose Luis Arrieta, Laurent Brochard, Giuseppe Guerini and more I would say. Whether they actually raced directly against them I don't know, but their careers crossed.

I am sure there were a few who raced against Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle and Herve as well.

 

[Parker]

If Rebellin starts in a race with Mathieu van der Poel, he also races with both son and dad, as he did some races with Adrie van der Poel in the beginning of the 90s.

Rebellin probably raced against Raymond Poulidor too

 

[Parker]

Malcolm Elliott was a teammate at Fagor of Stephen Roche in 1988. In 2009, at the age of 48 he raced in the Tour of Britain against Nicolas (coming 16th on GC). The year before he had raced against his nephew Dan Martin.

 

[valentius borealis]

If we're counting stepsons, Pierre Rolland has raced against Nick Gates (Tour Down Under 2008) and Armani Drake (Tour de Langkawi 2020).

 

[Ricco']

Also about Rebellin (the omnipresent grand dad of world cycling), he raced against both Nicola Minali and Riccardo Minali.

Valverde did the same, as he raced Milano - Sanremo in 2002 against Nicola and Abu Dhabi Tour 2018 and Vuelta a Burgos 2020 against Riccardo.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Federico Moreira is Uruguay's best ever cyclist. He won the Vuelta del Uruguay 6 times, and although he stopped international racing in the early 2000s he continued to race in his home Tours until 2006, retiring at the age of 45. Agustín and Mauricio, his sons, started racing in the Vuelta del Uruguay and the Rutas de América in 2016, before relocating to Spain where Mauri turned pro with Caja Rural. As a result, a number of veterans of the Rioplatense scene will have faced both Fede and his sons, such as Richard Mascarañas, Néstor Pias, Matías Medici, Héctor Águilar. Fabricio Ferrari even raced againist Federico in his formative years and then teamed with Mauricio at Caja Rural.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Danny and Boy van Poppel are brothers, not father and son. Embarrassing mistake.

We probably should cut her a little slack with one of their names being 'Boy'.