Rigoberto Uran discussion thread.

[JRanton]

Hm, you are right. It was Froome that has signed until 2014. Even if Wiggins hasn't signed with sky, do you think that Wiggins will sign with other team? I don't think so. He needs his coaches and sky training regime fits him. Besides, he knows that he got a strong team to carry him around the mountain. He would be no body if he goes to other team.

Leaving the Sky and British cycling setup is obviously a major issue but if he wants a crack at winning a second Tour next year then he'll probably have to join another team.

 

[delgado]

Chapeau to Uran today, what is there not to like about the guy except his hairstyle.

his taste in music.
notice how his last name always comes up double in the tv inserts? that can't be a coincidence.

 

[Froomador]

Both Uran and Henao have signed for QuickStep in 2014

Will be announced post TdF

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uran-linked-to-omega-pharma-quickstep

Ah finally, three weeks after I confirmed this, the cat appears from the bag

...and yes Henao is going too

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uran-linked-to-omega-pharma-quickstep

Ah finally, three weeks after I confirmed this, the cat appears from the bag

...and yes Henao is going too

 

[element]

...and yes Henao is going too

from the article - "Speaking to L’Équipe at the Giro, the Colombian’s agent, Giuseppe Acquadro, said Urán is likely to leave the British team. “Unlike [Sergio] Henao, who is in the same situation, Urán won’t be staying with Sky because he wants to ride the Tour next year as a team leader, and Sky already have Froome, Wiggins and Porte, so there are too many ambitious riders and not enough space to accommodate them.”

Uran's agent seems to be saying Henao is staying at Sky, unless I am misreading that?

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Uran thinks he will ride as team leader at Quick Step? He may be in for a shock.

 

[qwerty16]

Uran thinks he will ride as team leader at Quick Step? He may be in for a shock.

And even if he gets leadership (or freedom at least): what does he think he can do in the Tour? He would probably grind himself to a 12th place or something.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

And even if he gets leadership (or freedom at least): what does he think he can do in the Tour? He would probably grind himself to a 12th place or something.

Wouldn't say he is a worse climber than VDB2, and VDB2 is top 6 ish in a normal tdf

 

[Pulpstar]

What about Cavendish - I know OPQS have no GC man, but their entire setup is built around pulling in the flat stages for Cav to get a sprint .

With Cav being so dominant they don't get much help from other teams, so if they were to have Uran at the Tour in 2014 going for GC wouldn't they run into the same issues as Wiggo/Cav (Sky) in 2012 ?

 

[Froome19]

from the article - "Speaking to L’Équipe at the Giro, the Colombian’s agent, Giuseppe Acquadro, said Urán is likely to leave the British team. “Unlike [Sergio] Henao, who is in the same situation, Urán won’t be staying with Sky because he wants to ride the Tour next year as a team leader, and Sky already have Froome, Wiggins and Porte, so there are too many ambitious riders and not enough space to accommodate them.”

Uran's agent seems to be saying Henao is staying at Sky, unless I am misreading that?

Sky chased Henao for 3 years to sign him. Brailsford was scouting Henao before the team was even founded..

So I don't think they will want to relinquish such a talent just yet, unless it becomes totally unviable. I still doubt whether Uran has the potential to win a GT, but Henao has untapped potential certainly.

 

[Froome19]

And even if he gets leadership (or freedom at least): what does he think he can do in the Tour? He would probably grind himself to a 12th place or something.

He would beat Peter Velits..

 

[Gloin22]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uran-linked-to-omega-pharma-quickstep

Ah finally, three weeks after I confirmed this, the cat appears from the bag

...and yes Henao is going too

Can you read English? It's says in article ''Unlike Henao"

And anyway, Ryo and even myself said in winter Uran would leave so not a big surprise... and not out of nothing...


Although we have our difference over if Henao leaves or not

 

[Pulpstar]

Uran is going to pull and pull and pull for Cav till his legs "can turn no more".

 

[Catwhoorg]

What about Cavendish - I know OPQS have no GC man, but their entire setup is built around pulling in the flat stages for Cav to get a sprint .

With Cav being so dominant they don't get much help from other teams, so if they were to have Uran at the Tour in 2014 going for GC wouldn't they run into the same issues as Wiggo/Cav (Sky) in 2012 ?

Logically yes, but OPQS wouldn't be building the same sort of SKYtrain. Uran would have 1-2 dedicated helpers only and would be expected to fend for himself much more.

It would of course be very important he doesn't get a race lead too early.

 

[barmaher]

It is perfectly normal to have a sprinter and a GC guy on a team.

As Catwhoorg says, Uran could get 2 helpers, and then 5 guys either pulling for Cav or leading him out.

I am sure Uran would accept that if he was offered it. And Cav can't really expect to have the whole of such a big-budget team pulling for him in the biggest race of the year.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

Guys like Tony Martin, Chavanel, Stybar can be important for both Cav and Uran...

 

[Jelantik]

Nooooo.. not Quick Step!! He has to split the team with cav. And Cav won't be happy with less man for the train. Uran just goes from one problem (GC vs sprint at sky) to another problem. Same sprinter just different GC rider. De ja vu. Can he go to some other team? Uran deserves a good team to back him up 100% if he wants to contest 2014 TDF.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

A Uranium powered train for Cav.

 

[brilleaben]

Urán is good sprinter himself, having won reduced group sprints. He's gonna fit in nicely in the train.

 

[ILovecycling]

Nooooo.. not Quick Step!! He has to split the team with cav. And Cav won't be happy with less man for the train. Uran just goes from one problem (GC vs sprint at sky) to another problem. Same sprinter just different GC rider. De ja vu. Can he go to some other team? Uran deserves a good team to back him up 100% if he wants to contest 2014 TDF.

A Uranium powered train for Cav.

Urán is good sprinter himself, having won reduced group sprints. He's gonna fit in nicely in the train.

Do you even follow cycling?Uran doesnt need a team of ***ing idiots who will drag him atop of mountains like SBW.All he needs is a team with money,TT,and one guy to protect him,thats all

 

[Leadbelly]

one guy to protect him,thats all

Would Kwiat be happy to be that "one guy" you think? or would they have to go and buy another rider in as well to do that job (can't see anyone else in the team being good enough ), and if so who?

It would be a bit of a shame I feel if that was Kwiat's fate in life for the next couple of years anyway. I was hoping to see him in a GT, riding for himself, sooner rather than later.

 

[hfer07]

Do you even follow cycling?Uran doesnt need a team of ***ing idiots who will drag him atop of mountains like SBW.All he needs is a team with money,TT,and one guy to protect him,thats all

Actually I do agree with you on that observation-However- I'm not quite sure what OPQS can offer to him as a GT team (apart of course the load of cash for his services ) to have full commitment towards Rigoberto for his Tour bid-specially when Cavendish appears in the picture & begins to ask for more men power to challenge Sagan.... ... So Yes- Rigo is very versatile & can ride among the best without a train-but he needs companions to take him as far as the can in the climbs to protect him- and sadly I don't see those kind of riders in OPQS to fulfill that task...

 

[thehook]

As fans we see what we think a rider needs to reach his full potential. As an athlete with a very short period of maximum $ earned. For which he will need to live on for his remaining lifetime. He sees his financial future also. He can think he will earn more based on wins. But cycling has no guarantee of that. He has to balance both options and make his best choice?

 

[airstream]

Do you even follow cycling?Uran doesnt need a team of ***ing idiots who will drag him atop of mountains like SBW.All he needs is a team with money,TT,and one guy to protect him,thats all

It depends on what one aims. If we talk about a Tour podium, no rider would reject help from 'idiots'.

If Uran had showed so much potential like Wiggins in 09 and 11, believe he would have found a team in which he could've been the only Tour leader. Anti Wiggins blindness is irrelevant here.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

As fans we see what we think a rider needs to reach his full potential. As an athlete with a very short period of maximum $ earned. For which he will need to live on for his remaining lifetime. He sees his financial future also. He can think he will earn more based on wins. But cycling has no guarantee of that. He has to balance both options and make his best choice?

this idea of retired pro riders doing nothing for the rest of their lives, where does that come from?

Plenty of earnings power left in a 40 yo, especially if they have a bit of brains and some cash to start with.