Road to Olympics: UCI World Tour Nations Ranking

[Asero831]

It will really be interesting for Spain. Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Landa and the fifth guy.

 

[wwabbit]

The 10 UCI Points requirement may have been removed.

The requirement was in the Feb 2014 version of the qualification system document, Page 2 section "Additional IF Requirements"
http://corporate.olympics.com.au/files/dmfile/Rio2016QualificationSystem-RoadCycling.pdf

In the latest version I can find, Feb 2015, it is no longer in there:
http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/NewsGeneral/16/81/62/2015-02-Rio2016-QualificationSystem-FINAL-RoadCycling-EN_English.pdf

 

[Brullnux]

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G, Froome, Cav, Stannard & Kennaugh is probably GB's team

You have to bare in mind each rider needs to get a minimum of 10 world tour points. Stannard and Kennaugh wouldnt be eligible to compete.

Stannard getting a top 10 in say MSR (which he has done before) and P-R would do the job. ditto Kennaugh having a good Ardennes campaign, and I'm sure Sky will be well aware of this.

Edit: Rowe got 20 WT points for his P-R 8th place, so if Stannard can get a P-R top 10 and Kennaugh an Ardennes top 10 or two and a WT stage win, they'll be fine. But I don't think Stannard will be that useful for Team GB. He can do grunt work, but with that parcours and a maximum team of five, surely having five contenders in Kennaugh, Froome, Thomas and the Yates' would be at least as useful as including Stannard if not more.

The 10 points rule is for the 2015 season. So as of now, only 6 British riders have atleast 10 WT points

Froomey, G, Yates bros, Cav and Luke.

So Australia will automatically be taken out of the competition as only 5 riders have over 10 points: Matthews, Porte, Dennis, Evans and Durbridge. Since Evans has retired, he will not be available next year. Unless Gerrans wins points at the final classics, which is likely but is not certain, then they have only 4 riders available. But if Matthews and Dennis score big at the races in which they go to and qualify top 5, then do they relinquish that spot or hold it for no reason?

 

[Asero831]

Australia also have riders in the continental tour like von hoff and kerby, but if the 10 points is no longer required, it is a different story

 

[Brullnux]

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Australia also have riders in the continental tour like von hoff and kerby, but if the 10 points is no longer required, it is a different story

True.

 

[dirkprovin]

This 10 point provision is most assuredly NOT part of the final Feb 2015 document so one would have to think it's off the table.

Special Provisions
1) Maximum quota allocated per NOC: An NOC may not obtain more quota places than it has riders ranked in the individual ranking of the tour concerned (UCI WorldTour or Continental Tours).

2) Qualification through Continental Tours:
- All NOCs having filled their maximum quota (provision 1) through the UCI WorldTour cannot obtain additional quota places through the continental tours (UCI Africa Tour, UCI America Tour, UCI Asia Tour, UCI Europe Tour or UCI Oceania Tour). The next best ranked NOCs within each respective continental tour will be considered for the allocation of quota places.
- NOCs which have not filled their maximum quota (provision 1) through the UCI WorldTour may complete this maximum allocation through additional quota places obtained at their respective continental tour (UCI Africa Tour, UCI America Tour, UCI Asia Tour, UCI Europe Tour or UCI Oceania Tour). An NOC cannot, in any instance, exceed the number of quota places obtained through the UCI WorldTour

At this point, AUS has 9 riders with 2015 WT points: Porte, Matthews, Dennis, Durbridge, Clarke, Haussler, Gerrans, Ewen & Haas.

 

[Brullnux]

Why does the Olympic course have 20km of flat after the final climb+descent? This really damages the hopes of some riders surely, as the race is now likely to finish with a group of 10 riders at the end. However, this is the Olympics, so I guess attacks will happen 24/7

 

[TMP402]

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Why does the Olympic course have 20km of flat after the final climb+descent? This really damages the hopes of some riders surely, as the race is now likely to finish with a group of 10 riders at the end. However, this is the Olympics, so I guess attacks will happen 24/7

I don't mind that. London-Surrey had 50km after the last hill I believe but was still an exciting race.

 

[Brullnux]

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Why does the Olympic course have 20km of flat after the final climb+descent? This really damages the hopes of some riders surely, as the race is now likely to finish with a group of 10 riders at the end. However, this is the Olympics, so I guess attacks will happen 24/7

I don't mind that. London-Surrey had 50km after the last hill I believe but was still an exciting race.

I realised it was actually a nice idea after I started writing
But I still think some riders chances have been damaged, especially the climbers who will undoubtedly attack on the last climb, and on the climb the 3 times before that, but who can't time trial that well will be caught there. Racing wise it will be good, but for the like of Purito it will be very bad.

 

[TMP402]

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Why does the Olympic course have 20km of flat after the final climb+descent? This really damages the hopes of some riders surely, as the race is now likely to finish with a group of 10 riders at the end. However, this is the Olympics, so I guess attacks will happen 24/7

I don't mind that. London-Surrey had 50km after the last hill I believe but was still an exciting race.

I realised it was actually a nice idea after I started writing
But I still think some riders chances have been damaged, especially the climbers who will undoubtedly attack on the last climb, and on the climb the 3 times before that, but who can't time trial that well will be caught there. Racing wise it will be good, but for the like of Purito it will be very bad.

I think it would be cool to see, for instance, a group of Froome, Uran, Mollema and Nibali attack Valverde in the last km of the final climb and try and stay away before attacking each other in the final 3km. A slow motion sprint like the one Voeckler won in 2012 Tour would be amazing.

 

[TMP402]

I hadn't noticed before but this article

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/rio-olympic-games-how-great-britain-plan-to-deliver-success/

mentions a Rio 2016 test event on 16 August, the 1.2 rated Aquece Rio - Desafio Internacional following much of the same course. National teams from the leading countries will be invited so it will be interesting to see what happens, but being less than a week before the Vuelta will rule out some favourites for both events, eg Nibali.

 

[Pierrot le Fou]

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I hadn't noticed before but this article

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/rio-olympic-games-how-great-britain-plan-to-deliver-success/

mentions a Rio 2016 test event on 16 August, the 1.2 rated Aquece Rio - Desafio Internacional following much of the same course. National teams from the leading countries will be invited so it will be interesting to see what happens, but being less than a week before the Vuelta will rule out some favourites for both events, eg Nibali.

There's a strong French team heading over. Bardet, Pinot, Vuillermoz, Barguil and Gallopin. Not sure if that means none of them are doing the Vuelta.

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

I hadn't noticed before but this article

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/rio-olympic-games-how-great-britain-plan-to-deliver-success/

mentions a Rio 2016 test event on 16 August, the 1.2 rated Aquece Rio - Desafio Internacional following much of the same course. National teams from the leading countries will be invited so it will be interesting to see what happens, but being less than a week before the Vuelta will rule out some favourites for both events, eg Nibali.

There's a strong French team heading over. Bardet, Pinot, Vuillermoz, Barguil and Gallopin. Not sure if that means none of them are doing the Vuelta.

That's a great team! Interesting.

 

[Velolover2]

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It will really be interesting for Spain. Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Landa and the fifth guy.

Not sure that Contador will be there. Neither with Landa.

Valverde, Rodriguez, Ion Izagirre, Intxausti and Luis Leon Sanchez (pacing).

 

[robin440]

Will the test event be streamed somewhere ? Triathlon stuff wasnt, hopefully they will stream it, i would love to see that course!

 

[Billie]

It's not a 2 day race like in Bejing? There they had the timetrial as 2nd stage.

 

[TMP402]

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It's not a 2 day race like in Bejing? There they had the timetrial as 2nd stage.

Nope. a 1.2 race.

 

[Asero831]

Aru and Ulissi's top 5 and 6 in Tour of Poland put Italy in the top 4 and dislodged Australia in the top 5. They are now 73 points ahead of the Aussies and 7 points ahead of France.

Meanwhile, Zakarin put Russia in 16th place, one point outside the 15th place Poland.
6th to 15th place teams will have 4 riders while teams outside the Top 15 can not have more than 3 riders.

Countries still outside of Top 15 are United States, Slovakia, Canada, Denmark and Ireland

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It will really be interesting for Spain. Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Landa and the fifth guy.

Not sure that Contador will be there. Neither with Landa.

Valverde, Rodriguez, Ion Izagirre, Intxausti and Luis Leon Sanchez (pacing).

Contador named the Olympics his 2nd goal of the season besides the TDF, and the Spanish national coach has practically begged him to participate in the worlds in the last few years, so I would be surprised if he leaves him at home.

 

[ILovecycling]

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It will really be interesting for Spain. Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Landa and the fifth guy.

Not sure that Contador will be there. Neither with Landa.

Valverde, Rodriguez, Ion Izagirre, Intxausti and Luis Leon Sanchez (pacing).

Contador named the Olympics his 2nd goal of the season besides the TDF, and the Spanish national coach has practically begged him to participate in the worlds in the last few years, so I would be surprised if he leaves him at home.

Yep, but only to be a biatch to Valverde.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It will really be interesting for Spain. Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Landa and the fifth guy.

Not sure that Contador will be there. Neither with Landa.

Valverde, Rodriguez, Ion Izagirre, Intxausti and Luis Leon Sanchez (pacing).

Contador named the Olympics his 2nd goal of the season besides the TDF, and the Spanish national coach has practically begged him to participate in the worlds in the last few years, so I would be surprised if he leaves him at home.

Yep, but only to be a biatch to Valverde.

Hmm? What do you mean?

 

[damian13ster]

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It will really be interesting for Spain. Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Landa and the fifth guy.

Not sure that Contador will be there. Neither with Landa.

Valverde, Rodriguez, Ion Izagirre, Intxausti and Luis Leon Sanchez (pacing).

Contador named the Olympics his 2nd goal of the season besides the TDF, and the Spanish national coach has practically begged him to participate in the worlds in the last few years, so I would be surprised if he leaves him at home.

Yep, but only to be a biatch to Valverde.

Hmm? What do you mean?

That he wouldn't be a leader of a team, probably not even a free role seeing that they are better riders for this terrain. I really hope that Poland holds on. Majka needs to top 5-6 the Vuelta and Kwiatkowski needs to come back into some semi-decent shape for the classics.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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That he wouldn't be a leader of a team, probably not even a free role seeing that they are better riders for this terrain. I really hope that Poland holds on. Majka needs to top 5-6 the Vuelta and Kwiatkowski needs to come back into some semi-decent shape for the classics.

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I am quite certain that isn't what ILoveCycling meant.

 

[TMP402]

The test event's route has been altered due to protests. Not sure how this affects the climbs.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rio-2016-olympics-test-event-route-altered-due-to-anti-government-protests/

and the Italy team, lacking Aru and Nibali, is:

"Valerio Agnoli (Astana), Valerio Conti (Lampre-Merida), Iuri Filosi (Nippo-Vini Fantini) and Edoardo Zardini (Bardiani-CSF)"

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Europeans will get their a**** kicked by Funvic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=206&v=O-vumSs-R-o