Robert Millar

[Pierrot le Fou]

But surely the fact that it is being questioned in lots of other countries by lots of other people is proof that this isn't a French issue. And the likes of Robert Millar, David Walsh etc trying to blame it on the French being bitter is missing the point, quite spectacularly.

It seems like people are putting words in RMs mouth. He seems to be specifically addressing the fact that people on the roadside are being whipped up by the French media. He isn't saying it is only the French who are questioning the performances, he's saying that it is a French race, with the majority of roadside fans being French, getting their information from French news that are happy to cast doubt by employing unrepentant dopers who bad mouth riders and don't even have the strength of character to stand up and be counted when questioned on it.

I don't see anywhere in the article where he says that it's just the French media. He lays blame on the French media in particular, but I think that's fair as they hold the majority of influence over roadside fans.

Whether he is right or not I don't know, but it seems unfair to accuse him of something he hasn't specifically stated. It's the usual internet thing of attacking something you believe is implied and that's unfair. You'd be better off pointing out how the French media are doing good investigate journalism (are they? I don't know) and attacking his basic premise that they are just whipping up anger through jealousy.

My mistake, I was responding to the posts in here rather than the article itself.

There has been some interesting investigative work, even the France 2 programme on Sunday which was ridiculed was actually much closer to the truth than people admit (the 7w/kg has been misinterpreted by everyone to make it look like a botch job). Given some posts in here from Merckx Index, it seems like Pierre Sallet isn't a joker who they've roped in just to have a go at Sky. He was also the man behind the microdosing show they did a few months ago.

Having said that, it sounds like Prudhomme and Daniel Bilalian (head of France Televisions) had a meeting yesterday, so I wouldn't expect much more doping chat in the final week of the tour.

 

[wendybnt]

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I was speaking to a friend yesterday and this came up.

Their flashy Range rovers for the classics, their flash Jags & RVs. Its in your face and people dont like that.

I expect they drive what they are given. British team.British cars (well.....sort of British)

Jaguar Land Rover are Indian, not British.

In the same way that Mavic are Finnish not French

 

[Benotti69]

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YOU EUROS CANNOT COPE WITH THE FACT THAT BRITS DOPE BETTER!! FIRST WE REFUSED TO DOPE AND THAT MADE US BETTER HUMANS THAN YOU. NOW THAT WE CHOSE TO DOPE WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU AT THAT AS WELL!! SORE LOSERS!!!

Would Love to see (apart from Obree and 1 or 2 others) which british pros refused to dope? Not Tom Simpson to present day.....

 

[noddy69]

I think the press have the ammo they need if they cared about catching Chris out...he has stated he will do independent testing( where have we heard that before). Right so..leave him be as in fairness no positives yet- and then hound him for the tests, because this has played out before. No testing will get done and the papers wont care. They are in it to sell papers not catch dopers- any clamour will die as the tour ends so better to cry doper now and make money then actually do the right thing.