Ronde van Vlaanderen 2025, one day monument, April 6 (men's)

[E_F_]

Amazing last 55 km as usual. Very happy with Wouts performance, my favorite on Sunday!

Nah, the last 10 km were boring as usual. But shockingly the race was very fun for a good while.

 

[Juan Pelota]

Nah. I've previously posted that I have my doubts about Jorgensen over the monument distance. Today, reinforced my opinion.

Did you watch him come in? He literally sat up when TB and Kung started to sprint and slow pedalled in and let the peloton catch him and pass him.

 

[Unchained]

I'm racing and riding at Sea Otter next week, then hoofing it home Saturday, so I can get up at 1am to start watching. Follow me for more recipes in stupidity.

Ridden the motorcycle from San Diego to Laguna Seca multiple times to see races..

 

[Rackham]

Did you watch him come in? He literally sat up when TB and Kung started to sprint and slow pedalled in and let the peloton catch him and pass him.

Jorgenson sat up before he sprint. He was cooked.

 

[Red Rick]

There's a reason the chase never comes back after Paterberg and it gets worse the larger the group is.

 

[Unchained]

I have 3 kids, so waking up at 4 isn’t an option! I had earphones in listening to the commentary in my sleep, and rolled out to the tv when Backstedt started getting excited. Switched on the kettle and got the aeropress out.

I am a pour over person.. Don't like those round filters!! If you have 3 kids, energy to wake up to watch a race, sounds like Superman!! Thing I least about AP is that when you push down on the super sized plunger syringe, I always am thinking that plastic at the bottom that sits on the cup is going to snap!!! I use VPN and watch from Spain so Alberto Contador is who I share coffee with, like it or not!!
Go Padres!! Go Kopecky!!!!

 

[Krzysztof_O]

There's a reason the chase never comes back after Paterberg and it gets worse the larger the group is.

Actually the finale had a substantial headwind so the group should have some advantage. They were too cooked to reduce the gap to Pog (even before tactical games for the 2nd began), who proved the strongest. Pedersen mentioned it.

 

[Leinster]

I am a pour over person.. Don't like those round filters!! If you have 3 kids, energy to wake up to watch a race, sounds like Superman!! Thing I least about AP is that when you push down on the super sized plunger syringe, I always am thinking that plastic at the bottom that sits on the cup is going to snap!!! I use VPN and watch from Spain so Alberto Contador is who I share coffee with, like it or not!!
Go Padres!! Go Kopecky!!!!

My favorite thing about the aeropress is the satisfying “thunk” when I pop the used grounds into the compost bin.

 

[red_flanders]

I missed most of it, did Powless show at all?

 

[Red Rick]

Actually the finale had a substantial headwind so the group should have some advantage. They were too cooked to reduce the gap to Pog (even before tactical games for the 2nd began), who proved the strongest. Pedersen mentioned it.

They were losing time to the smaller G3 which was working together better.

Everyone crests Paterberg cooked, and larger groups are always slower from Pater to Oudenaarde.

In this specific instance, headwind just makes cooperation worse.

 

[Netserk]

Actually the finale had a substantial headwind so the group should have some advantage. They were too cooked to reduce the gap to Pog (even before tactical games for the 2nd began), who proved the strongest. Pedersen mentioned it.

Only a headwind after they cross the river and it's a far too short and too late part of the race for wind to matter.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Gotta hand it to Pog. He put the top classics riders to the sword on every climb until they all crumbled on the Paterberg.

Kwaremont mate

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Only a headwind after they cross the river and it's a far too short and too late part of the race for wind to matter.

No, headwind in the last 9-10 km (Kerkhove to the finish) so the majority of post Paterberg section.

 

[Netserk]

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[Netserk]

No, headwind in the last 9-10 km (Kerkhove to the finish) so the majority of post Paterberg section.

That is after they cross the river indeed. And wind doesn't matter there. It's the last 8.5 km. Pogi had ~35" there, after he continuously extended his gap from Kwaremont until then as he was riding against dead riders.

 

[hayneplane]

There's a reason the chase never comes back after Paterberg and it gets worse the larger the group is.

What was the last edition where anyone dropped or already behind at the top of final Paterberg came back to the front of the race?

 

[Red Rick]

What was the last edition where anyone dropped or already behind at the top of final Paterberg came back to the front of the race?

2022 is the only time, and that was because Van der Poel and Pogacar were playing games. Every other time the first over the Pater have stayed away

 

[QueenStagiaire]

What was the last edition where anyone dropped or already behind at the top of final Paterberg came back to the front of the race?

2022 and before that, 2014

 

[E_F_]

What was the last edition where anyone dropped or already behind at the top of final Paterberg came back to the front of the race?

Well, there was than one sprint between Pogacar and van der Poel.

 

[hayneplane]

Well, there was than one sprint between Pogacar and van der Poel.

I should have made it clearer but I was looking more at when a solo leader had been caught

 

[limak_]

Yes, he was doing too much, especially given that he knew he was on the limit. I demand no more than what Pozzato would do.

He needed to arrive to the last Kwaremont as fresh as possible, survive that, and then he could take responsibility from Paterberg to the finish.

I mean yeah, that'd be the only reasonable tactics for him, but still I think he'd be dropped by Pogacar.

Also, another thing is that van der Poel was feeling quite confident coming to the race (after MSR win; I know it's totally different race, but still) and after the first climbs, where he clearly felt good. And passive racing is certainly not his instinct.

 

[Netserk]

I mean yeah, that'd be the only reasonable tactics for him, but still I think he'd be dropped by Pogacar.

Also, another thing is that van der Poel was feeling quite confident coming to the race (after MSR win; I know it's totally different race, but still) and after the first climbs, where he clearly felt good. And passive racing is certainly not his instinct.

I understand that, and I can respect that pride and confidence motivates you, that you perhaps need to believe that you are the strongest rider to perform at your best.

But after his early crash and feeling on the limit from quite afar? No, your rational side has to overrule all other considerations. He has already won the race thrice, he can be a cold killer and aim for 1st solely.

 

[Rackham]

Regarding Van Aert, I'd say Visma were good today and Benoot + Jorgenson were a great help. But without them I feel like this one would have played out as per usual after WvA first got into difficulty.

So I'm a bit more cautious regarding heaping praise and hype on his shoulders before Roubaix. The way this race played out helped WvA - a lot. They had the numbers and forced Pog and VdP to isolate themselves.

 

[yaco]

Did you watch him come in? He literally sat up when TB and Kung started to sprint and slow pedalled in and let the peloton catch him and pass him.

He did the same in the last edition of Ronde. Was second over the Koppenburg and collapsed to finish 31st. He seems to struggle at monument distances.

 

[Netserk]

I should have made it clearer but I was looking more at when a solo leader had been caught

Never happened for 1st, but Kristoff has dropped everyone on Paterberg before and then been caught by his group afterwards.