Rough Attempt at an All-Time Ranking

[Pantani_lives]

I must say I find this thread very interesting. Chapeau to you @Pantani_lives !!
However, don't you think, you praised podium places a little bit too high? A win should give (at least) 4x times more than a second place and I wouldn't count second places or third places in stages. But this is just my opinion.

Thanks. Opinions are divided about the value of places of honor. I don't count podium places in stages. However podium places in major races are worth something, so the "eternal seconds" sometimes do quite well in a list like this.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Thanks to his Giro win Pogacar is now 13th. He passes Van Looy and Girardengo.

If he wins the Tour he'll enter the top 10, but that's still a big if.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

@Pantani_lives Time for another historical update!

 

[snipeheem]

Thanks to his Giro win Pogacar is now 13th. He passes Van Looy and Girardengo.

If he wins the Tour he'll enter the top 10, but that's still a big if.

U mean top1

 

[Pantani_lives]

Time for an update indeed.

*Tadej Pogacar enters the top 10 of all time, an amazing achievement for someone who's yet to turn twenty-six. He's now bigger than Binda, Gimondi and Indurain.

Other riders gain places too:

*By winning the Dauphiné, Roglic became the second Slovenian in the top 20.
*Cavendish jumps over Fignon to #44.
*Evenepoel is now at #55, which already makes him the tenth best Belgian.
*Vingegaard moves up to #77. He's the best Danish rider of all time.
*Carapaz climbs to #120.
*Nobody enters the top 200, but Philipsen comes close.

Between spoiler tags here's the updated top 200 of all time:

Spoiler: Top 200 Male Road Cyclists of All Time

1 | Eddy Merckx | 2027
2 | Bernard Hinault | 1266
3 | Jacques Anquetil | 1075
4 | Fausto Coppi | 1032
5 | Gino Bartali | 1009
6 | Sean Kelly | 958
7 | Alejandro Valverde | 921
8 | Roger De Vlaeminck | 873
9 | Francesco Moser | 830
10 | Tadej Pogačar | 827
11 | Alfredo Binda | 789
12 | Felice Gimondi | 778
13 | Miguel Induráin | 763
14 | Rik Van Looy | 688
15 | Costante Girardengo | 675
16 | Joop Zoetemelk | 657
17 | Chris Froome | 656
18 | Fabian Cancellara | 637
19 | Primož Roglič | 625
20 | Louison Bobet | 621
21 | Alberto Contador | 619
22 | Laurent Jalabert | 619
23 | Tony Rominger | 600
24 | Giuseppe Saronni | 599
25 | Vincenzo Nibali | 594
26 | Freddy Maertens | 594
27 | Tom Boonen | 523
28 | Peter Sagan | 520
29 | Rik Van Steenbergen | 484
30 | Fiorenzo Magni | 475
31 | Learco Guerra | 474
32 | Ferdi Kübler | 473
33 | Philippe Gilbert | 454
34 | Franco Bitossi | 452
35 | Johan Museeuw | 446
36 | Erik Zabel | 442
37 | Luis Ocaña | 441
38 | Mario Cipollini | 436
39 | Paolo Bettini | 432
40 | Greg LeMond | 429
41 | Raymond Poulidor | 425
42 | Jan Ullrich | 423
43 | Gianni Bugno | 423
44 | Mark Cavendish | 420
45 | Laurent Fignon | 418
46 | Jan Raas | 416
47 | Moreno Argentin | 409
48 | Nairo Quintana | 388
49 | Nicolas Frantz | 385
50 | Alex Zülle | 378
51 | Joaquim Rodríguez | 377
52 | Herman Vanspringel | 369
53 | Oscar Freire | 359
54 | Alexander Vinokourov | 356
55 | Remco Evenepoel | 350
56 | Charly Gaul | 348
57 | Hugo Koblet | 339
58 | Mathieu van der Poel | 339
59 | Walter Godefroot | 336
60 | Michele Bartoli | 335
61 | Gaetano Belloni | 334
62 | Wout van Aert | 334
63 | Jan Janssen | 332
64 | Henri Pélissier | 332
65 | Antonin Magne | 331
66 | Charly Mottet | 324
67 | André Leducq | 323
68 | Stephen Roche | 322
69 | Pedro Delgado | 322
70 | Giovanni Brunero | 322
71 | Bernard Thévenet | 317
72 | Claudio Chiappucci | 317
73 | Julian Alaphilippe | 311
74 | Cadel Evans | 309
75 | François Faber | 307
76 | Philippe Thys | 305
77 | Jonas Vingegaard | 304
78 | Vittorio Adorni | 303
79 | Abraham Olano | 303
80 | Rudi Altig | 303
81 | Alessandro Petacchi | 300
82 | Hennie Kuiper | 296
83 | Roberto Heras | 289
84 | Gustave Garrigou | 284
85 | Davide Rebellin | 276
86 | Briek Schotte | 275
87 | Gianbattista Baronchelli | 273
88 | Bradley Wiggins | 269
89 | Fred De Bruyne | 265
90 | Gianni Motta | 264
91 | André Darrigade | 263
92 | Nino Defilippis | 262
93 | Lucien Van Impe | 261
94 | Gilberto Simoni | 258
95 | Phil Anderson | 255
96 | Federico Bahamontes | 254
97 | Marino Lejarreta | 253
98 | Damiano Cunego | 252
99 | Stan Ockers | 249
100 | Tony Martin | 246
101 | Geraint Thomas | 245
102 | Julián Berrendero | 242
103 | Eric Vanderaerden | 242
104 | Marco Pantani | 241
105 | Michał Kwiatkowski | 240
106 | Michel Pollentier | 237
107 | Danilo Di Luca | 234
108 | Rolf Sørensen | 234
109 | Francesco Casagrande | 234
110 | Jean Stablinski | 232
111 | Samuel Sánchez | 231
112 | Pascal Richard | 227
113 | Delio Rodríguez | 226
114 | Raymond Impanis | 224
115 | Greg Van Avermaet | 222
116 | Sylvère Maes | 221
117 | Lucien Petit-Breton | 218
118 | Gastone Nencini | 218
119 | Dietrich Thurau | 218
120 | Richard Carapaz | 217
121 | Alexander Kristoff | 216
122 | Ivan Basso | 211
123 | Octave Lapize | 210
124 | Marcel Kint | 210
125 | Tom Dumoulin | 208
126 | Gerrie Knetemann | 208
127 | Arnaud Démare | 207
128 | Thor Hushovd | 206
129 | Carlos Sastre | 205
130 | Robbie McEwen | 204
131 | Denis Menchov | 203
132 | Stefano Garzelli | 202
133 | Adrie van der Poel | 202
134 | Claude Criquielion | 200
135 | Luis Herrera | 198
136 | Miguel María Lasa | 198
137 | Michele Dancelli | 197
138 | Pavel Tonkov | 196
139 | Ottavio Bottecchia | 195
140 | Giovanni Battaglin | 195
141 | Eddy Planckaert | 195
142 | Giuseppe Olmo | 194
143 | Richard Virenque | 193
144 | Georges Ronsse | 192
145 | Miguel Poblet | 192
146 | José Manuel Fuente | 189
147 | Jean Alavoine | 189
148 | Guido Bontempi | 187
149 | Georges Speicher | 186
150 | Heiri Suter | 185
151 | Maurizio Fondriest | 182
152 | Andy Schleck | 181
153 | Andrei Tchmil | 181
154 | Frans Verbeeck | 181
155 | Mariano Cañardo | 180
156 | Egan Bernal | 177
157 | Filippo Pozzato | 176
158 | Peter Van Petegem | 174
159 | Adolfo Leoni | 174
160 | Carlo Galetti | 172
161 | John Degenkolb | 172
162 | Joaquim Agostinho | 172
163 | Mads Pedersen | 171
164 | Maurice De Waele | 171
165 | Ercole Baldini | 171
166 | Jakob Fuglsang | 170
167 | Luigi Ganna | 170
168 | Italo Zilioli | 170
169 | Louis Trousselier | 168
170 | Germain Derycke | 168
171 | Frank Vandenbroucke | 168
172 | Erik Breukink | 168
173 | Andreas Klöden | 167
174 | Rui Costa | 166
175 | Pasquale Fornara | 166
176 | Roger Pingeon | 164
177 | Roger Lapébie | 164
178 | Franco Balmamion | 164
179 | Tom Simpson | 163
180 | Simon Yates | 163
181 | Jef Planckaert | 163
182 | Tom Steels | 161
183 | Firmin Lambot | 160
184 | Gaston Rebry | 159
185 | Domingo Perurena | 158
186 | Laurent Dufaux | 157
187 | Robert Millar | 156
188 | Ritchie Porte | 156
189 | Andrew Hampsten | 155
190 | Andrea Tafi | 155
191 | Giovanni Valetti | 154
192 | Daniel Martin | 154
193 | Steven Rooks | 154
194 | Eric Leman | 154
195 | Fränk Schleck | 154
196 | Rigoberto Urán | 154
197 | Marino Basso | 153
198 | André Greipel | 153
199 | Paolo Savoldelli | 152
200 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | 152

 

[CyclistAbi]

Nice to see Rogla moving up and Pogi already in top 10, season not over yet.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So top10 by Pog, not bad at all! It will be interesting to see his further progress. A few guys ahead of him are not far off. Even #3 is reachable in the near future (i.e. next couple of years).

 

[hayneplane]

@Pantani_lives how high would Pog climb by year end if he wins worlds and Lombardia this season

 

[velaso montador]

Its over boys I could go on and on with other saying nr 1 even, people with far more knowledge and experience from the sport I mind you.

Lance Armstrong on Tadej Pogacar: "He is one of the 3 best cyclists of all time"

Lance Armstrong has been one of those who during the

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[Pantani_lives]

@Pantani_lives how high would Pog climb by year end if he wins worlds and Lombardia this season

If he wins one of them he would be ninth. If he wins both he would be eighth. The gaps are getting bigger towards the top.

 

[Pantani_lives]

By winning the Olympic double Evenepoel enters the all-time top 50 before turning twenty-five. He jumps over Argentin and Quintana, from #55 to #47.

Van Aert enters the top 60 with his bronze medal. He's now tied at the same amount of points as his nemesis Van der Poel. (The Dutchman gets the advantage because his world title is a bigger win.)

47. Evenepoel 410
58. Van der Poel 339
59. Van Aert 339

 

[Breh]

Roglic overtakes Froome?

Nice.

 

[AmRacer]

Tadej Merckx

 

[Peyroteo94]

Roglic overtakes Froome?

Nice.

Just in this ranking.

 

[johnymax]

Just in this ranking.

Yeah, in many other rankings he was already ahead of him.

 

[Unchained]

Gino Bartali..conditions including World War guy still got it done.
Jacques Anquetil..because he was awesome
Eddy Merchx, did everything on a bike, including going after hour record
Greg Lemons
Lance Armstrong
Pogocar..
Tom Boonen ..honorable mention..

US-
Scott Moninger..obviously guy just won any kind of bike race, hundreds of times, nobody close
Ned Overend. Guy was an animal on any type of bicycle and was a factor in all races even after he was 100, 150 years old!! Guy just knows how to race a bicycle!!

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yeah, in many other rankings he was already ahead of him.

Do you think Roglic's palmares is bigger than Froome's palmares?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Roglic ahead of contador? Crazy list

Fausto coppi is the greatest of all time

 

[johnymax]

Do you think Roglic's palmares is bigger than Froome's palmares?

No, I think Froome's Tours put his palmares ahead of Rogla's. I just said there are more rankings with different points' system that have Roglič ahead of Froome.

 

[Froome]

Roglic ahead of contador? Crazy list

Fausto coppi is the greatest of all time

Froome's attack on Finestre, is bigger than the career of Roglic.

 

[Peyroteo94]

No, I think Froome's Tours put his palmares ahead of Rogla's. I just said there are more rankings with different points' system that have Roglič ahead of Froome.

Stupid rankings. A Tour win should count 20x more than any major one week race and 2x more than one Giro and 3x more than one Vuelta

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Froome's attack on Finestre, is bigger than the career of Roglic.

Had Roglič been in that race, he would probably have followed Froome and sat in his wheel for most of the stage, and all his fans would then have praised him for having done a long range attack, while the haters would call him a wheel sucker.

 

[Red Rick]

Had Roglič been in that race, he would probably have followed Froome and sat in his wheel for most of the stage, and all his fans would then have praised him for having done a long range attack, while the haters would call him a wheel sucker.

Roglic would find a way to follow easily on Finestre and then get dropped on Sestriere when Froome is doing like 5.5W/kg

 

[Pantani_lives]

Roglic overtakes Froome?

Nice.

Yes, and it makes sense. Froome takes more points in GTs, but Roglic takes more points in one-week races and one-day races.