Rujano to Sky or Movistar before the Vuelta

[Ferminal]

I would have preferred he stayed at Androni and did the same thing for the 2012 Giro as he did this year.

 

[auscyclefan94]

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[Ryo Hazuki]

I would love to see Rujano at the Vuelta. Then again Anton, Rujano, Purito.
Menchov only needs one 45km time trial to deal with this. The 2 Italians could prove a tougher challenge.

Still, Rujanos worth is that he attacks, which baits others to go with him which helps break riders, create groups etc.


Tour could be awesome for Rujano. The Giro showed that the "rujano likes the steepest gradients" theory was wrong. Rujano excelled at Etna and Grossglockner. He was good on Finnestre but nowhere near his Etna form judging by the fact that Kiriyenka who had been in a break all day put time into him on it.

By contrast Zoncolan and Gardeccia were his undoing.

So those Tour climbs where the black colour code represents 8% + rather than 13%+ could be good for him. i suspect KOM could be his limit. They ride up those climbs together at a higher pace. Rujano would attack get caught then get dropped. Hed also lose minutes on one or two other stages and god help him if that route back into france goes through Arenberg.

rujano was on anti biotics in the final 4 days of the giro including finestre and had a hunger flat on the zoncolan. he is a killer in both steep and less steep but has more explosiveness in steeper climbs

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Hi Ryo... Welcome Back, so much has been happening since you went away... Just in case you hadn't heard... Cadel Evans won the Tour de France Frickin unbelievable hey?

I thought you'd be interested to know since your last post before Cadel triumphed on the Champs-Élysées was this rather unflattering description of the current Tour de France Champion -



Maybe you were taken out of context? FWIW most commentators agreed that that was the stage (Alpe d'Huez) where he did enough to allow himself to win the whole dang shootin' match. Haven't heard too many people calling him a chickenhearted coward since? Opinions hey.. they're like arseholes... everyones got one.

Sorry to be so OT... Couldn't resist

Anyway.. back on topic... Rujano? Reminds me of Evans in a way? (Reverse the climbing and TT skills of course). Made some interesting career choices in regards to teams? Capable of losing time.. just when you don't expect it? Big motor. Maybe it can be his year at the Vuelta?

yeah there's nothing I can say. evans is truly changed rider at this tour. I could never believe in it but he has proven me wrong and I should know better. every person is capable of changing, even the biggest changes

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

rujano was on anti biotics in the final 4 days of the giro including finestre and had a hunger flat on the zoncolan. he is a killer in both steep and less steep but has more explosiveness in steeper climbs

lol @ you having more excuses then evans in the past .

guess uran has massive hunger hits in the last week also.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Stay on topic, please. This is the Rujano thread, not the Tour winner thread.

Susan

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'm just naming the facts. also check rujano how he smiled and cheered after the sestrieres stage. because he was 2nd?? no because he couldn't believe he rode so well. the reason androni didn;t pursuit kiriyenka that day was because everyone in the team expected rujano to finish in the bus that day

uran gotten sick yes, or do you think it's his actual level to finish in the bus? accoriding to geraint thomas on team sky website he had chest infection (bronchitis?)

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

lol. he barely gained time on kiriyenka, go watch the stage again.
The leaders didn't react because he was so far behind. Not because they couldn't.

It was impressive I'll concede but he is not as amazing as you think.

 

[the asian]

Rujano to Movistar makes sense. There is no leader at Movistar at the moment.

 

[jens_attacks]

kiriyenka that day was sublime,it's a shame to say rujano was weak because he couldn't close the gap on him.kiry that day was climbing finestre even better than the favourites group,a performance ressembling to the great raids of virenque and rasmussen.so no,rujano was a pretty much beast that day,beating the record of the climb from 2005 and putting 2 minutes at the top on the maglia rosa group

i'm still saying,giro is very hard for rujano because of the weather.a 100% rujanito in the 40c degrees vuelta will smoke the competition easily.that's why i hope to see him here this year,he even choose to go easy in his home tour so there is hope.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

my point was the group behind weren't even trying to chase him with real intent.

LOL szymd was riding at the front, but it wasn't a hardcore pace which he does for basso, but rather a controlled tempo as nibbles didn't have the legs this day.

Like I said a good effort, but wasn't out of this world by any means.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

lol. he barely gained time on kiriyenka, go watch the stage again.
The leaders didn't react because he was so far behind. Not because they couldn't.

It was impressive I'll concede but he is not as amazing as you think.

nobody gained time on kiriyenka, and like I said he rode on anti biotics, look no further than grossglockner and even etna, to se eh.im not even in topshape and fully healthy.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

my point was the group behind weren't even trying to chase him with real intent.

LOL szymd was riding at the front, but it wasn't a hardcore pace which he does for basso, but rather a controlled tempo as nibbles didn't have the legs this day.

Like I said a good effort, but wasn't out of this world by any means.

it wa san amazing performance by rujano because he was so weakened from teh anti biotics. that's why androni didn't ride and rujano expected to finish in the bus, that's why he was so happy with his performance. you can only imagien if fully healthy how well he would've done there.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

so you say.
Until Rujano proves he is good on the steep stuff, and shows more consistency I don't buy into your hype.

Don't get me wrong I think he a great climber and such, but your hype is something else.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

that's fine by me. I remember getting laughed at by everyone in this forum claiming he would be the only one able to follow contador if he was strong. after etna the laughing stopped.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

you weren't the only one, many people thought rujano was a great climber, don't make me get quotes.

people laughed at your ridiculous exaggerations.
i.e will be owning people by minutes in the MTT
i.e he is the 2nd best climber in the world soon to be the best (after ac) etc

massive difference.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

on grossglockner despite horrible weather they indeed took massive time. same on etna so that's no wonder. admittedly contador amazed me too. he was the best he has ever been but I will still want to see them both 100% fully healthy against each other and see which one is better. rujano to me is only one of contadors level in peloton.

 

[greenedge]

I would love if he could go to a big team. However Sky have Uran who shall probably ride for top 10 next year whilst Wiggins does the Olympics. If Rujano went to Movistar he would be a superdomestique for Valverde which would be great as he would learn how to sprint.

 

[El Pistolero]

nobody gained time on kiriyenka, and like I said he rode on anti biotics, look no further than grossglockner and even etna, to se eh.im not even in topshape and fully healthy.

He wasn't even putting in 6 w/k on the Etna while Contador was putting in 6.6w/k and he still dropped him from his wheel from head position. No way were they at the same level in the Etna and Grossglockner. Contador even admited he did a small attack at Grossglockner to see what would happen. He wasn't going full out there.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

rujano was not in topshape on either etna and grossglockner according to his own words and also to my predictions as he had like 9 racing days before giro and was peaking to third week. also he had a mechnical towards the end of the etna as you could see contador went full gas but could put no time on rujano.

the wattages I have no idea where you get those from. keep in mind rujano had already been in teh attack a lot longer in that climb in the headwind and it's usually quite abnormal to have a favorite from behind getting followed by a rider he picks up from an early attack. rujano was never in any trouble before the mechanical when contador tried everything in his might to drop rujano

 

[Duartista]

lol @ you having more excuses then evans in the past .

guess uran has massive hunger hits in the last week also.

In the case of Rujano, he is prone to hunger flats. It is to do with a blood sugar problem he has, I'm not sure of the exact details. WRT Uran, according to Brailsford he had a lung infection and was on antibiotics from the second rest day onwards. You can choose not to believe this if you want, obviously.