Ryder's blood

[Dazed and Confused]

As long as he only admit to things more than 8 years ago, he should be fine and get the same punishment JV got...

so they took the twitter device from him over xmas. Must have been tough. Still JV delivered info related to the Lance case iirc. Am I missing something?

 

[Netserk]

so they took the twitter device from him over xmas. Must have been tough. Still JV delivered info related to the Lance case iirc. Am I missing something?

My point was that JV didn't get any ban (due to SOL AFAIK), so why should Ryder (get any) if he only admits to things outside of the SOL?

 

[filipo]

Maybe might throw out the "Ras has an axe to grind. Bitter ex-doper" ?

You mean like this?

“Michael Rasmussen's testimony is untrustworthy. We have full confidence in Bjarne." -- Saxo Bank boss Lars Seier

 

[IndianCyclist]

Hesjedal can now be named " The Blood Ryder"

 

[D-Queued]

What's with the Canadians and their spines?

Barry, RH?

They're not into confessing are they?

No, we are pathetic. And, this is another complete embarrassment on what was a very poorly kept secret.

Yes, Ryder was a doper. If I knew that, and with the certainty that I did, I can only imagine how many others must have known this as well.

The story doesn't end here.

As one part of the additional story, please note that Rasmussen also fingered Chris "Shep" Sheppard.

Now, Shep did test positive for EPO in 2005. In so doing, he provided one of the lamest excuses ever. Ever!!!

Something to the effect that:

'It was my first time...

I just received it in the mail from a web purchase the day before the testers arrived...

I had an accident last year, and I was afraid my career was over...'

Afraid his career was over? Such BS.

Eight years later he was representing Canada at the Cyclocross World Championships this year in Louisville.

However, in 2005, it was announced that "In addition, he is now permanently ineligible to receive financial support from the federal government."

Any financial support? Like team kit? Did Chris really pay all of the direct and indirect expenses associated with attending the World Championships? In other words, permanent wasn't so permanent. Why would a known doper, permanently ineligible for support be allowed to represent the country?

Canadian Cycling - you have some 'splainin to do!

After testing positive, Shep also got incredible support from another very notable Canadian cyclist, former World MTB champ Roland Green. That story here.

BTW - This is what Chris Sheppard's sponsor has to say about him:

"Always with a big smile on his face, he exudes what Rocky Mountain is all about"

Time to call the webmaster, or is this really what Rocky Mountain is all about after all?

Not only are Canadians pathetic at confessing, things are starting to look pretty murky all around.

Do we think that is the end of doping in Canadian cycling? Can't wait for the next revelation.

Any other high profile Canadian cyclists likely to have been doping??? Would anyone like to come forward for a confession?

Dave.

 

[thehog]

You mean like this?

Yes just like that.

Translation.

"Charles Manson's testimony is untrustworthy. We have full confidence in Ted Bundy”

 

[Catwhoorg]

The more things stay the same, the more they stay the same.

Straight out of the Lance Playbook.

 

[neineinei]

My point was that JV didn't get any ban (due to SOL AFAIK), so why should Ryder (get any) if he only admits to things outside of the SOL?

Yes, the cases of the other Garmin boys should have though us all that to get a six month suspension Ryder will have had to admitting to doping within the last eight years (from when he admitted it) and cooperated with the anti-doping authoreties. We don't know that he has done any of that.

If Ryder knows anything about what Bruyneel was up to in for instance 2005 he might be a useful witness for USADA in London in December. And then he might get six months. Maybe.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

No, we are pathetic. And, this is another complete embarrassment on what was a very poorly kept secret.

Yes, Ryder was a doper. If I knew that, and with the certainty that I did, I can only imagine how many others must have known this as well.

The story doesn't end here.

As one part of the additional story, please note that Rasmussen also fingered Chris "Shep" Sheppard.

Now, Shep did test positive for EPO in 2005. In so doing, he provided one of the lamest excuses ever. Ever!!!

Something to the effect that:

'It was my first time...

I just received it in the mail from a web purchase the day before the testers arrived...

I had an accident last year, and I was afraid my career was over...'

Afraid his career was over? Such BS.

Eight years later he was representing Canada at the Cyclocross World Championships this year in Louisville.

However, in 2005, it was announced that "In addition, he is now permanently ineligible to receive financial support from the federal government."

Any financial support? Like team kit? Did Chris really pay all of the direct and indirect expenses associated with attending the World Championships? In other words, permanent wasn't so permanent. Why would a known doper, permanently ineligible for support be allowed to represent the country?

Canadian Cycling - you have some 'splainin to do!

After testing positive, Shep also got incredible support from another very notable Canadian cyclist, former World MTB champ Roland Green. That story here.

BTW - This is what Chris Sheppard's sponsor has to say about him:

"Always with a big smile on his face, he exudes what Rocky Mountain is all about"

Time to call the webmaster, or is this really what Rocky Mountain is all about after all?

Not only are Canadians pathetic at confessing, things are starting to look pretty murky all around.

Do we think that is the end of doping in Canadian cycling? Can't wait for the next revelation.

Any other high profile Canadian cyclists likely to have been doping??? Would anyone like to come forward for a confession?

Dave.

Damn!

I thought the Canadians were tough men working hard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7n5mEmXJo

 

[Dr. Maserati]

No, we are pathetic. And, this is another complete embarrassment on what was a very poorly kept secret.

Yes, Ryder was a doper. If I knew that, and with the certainty that I did, I can only imagine how many others must have known this as well.

The story doesn't end here.

As one part of the additional story, please note that Rasmussen also fingered Chris "Shep" Sheppard.

Now, Shep did test positive for EPO in 2005. In so doing, he provided one of the lamest excuses ever. Ever!!!

Something to the effect that:

'It was my first time...

I just received it in the mail from a web purchase the day before the testers arrived...

I had an accident last year, and I was afraid my career was over...'

Afraid his career was over? Such BS.

Eight years later he was representing Canada at the Cyclocross World Championships this year in Louisville.

However, in 2005, it was announced that "In addition, he is now permanently ineligible to receive financial support from the federal government."

Any financial support? Like team kit? Did Chris really pay all of the direct and indirect expenses associated with attending the World Championships? In other words, permanent wasn't so permanent. Why would a known doper, permanently ineligible for support be allowed to represent the country?

Canadian Cycling - you have some 'splainin to do!

After testing positive, Shep also got incredible support from another very notable Canadian cyclist, former World MTB champ Roland Green. That story here.

BTW - This is what Chris Sheppard's sponsor has to say about him:

"Always with a big smile on his face, he exudes what Rocky Mountain is all about"

Time to call the webmaster, or is this really what Rocky Mountain is all about after all?

Not only are Canadians pathetic at confessing, things are starting to look pretty murky all around.

Do we think that is the end of doping in Canadian cycling? Can't wait for the next revelation.

Any other high profile Canadian cyclists likely to have been doping??? Would anyone like to come forward for a confession?

Dave.

Hold on - to be fair Canada are meh about doping, which fits in with most countries.

To the highlighted though, I did a quick check (because it is pretty standard in a lot of countries) and Canada has a "Athlete Assistance Program" where the Government offer assistance to potential top athletes, so it would appear that is what is being referred to regarding financial support.

Also, as has been seen in Britain, once an athlete has served their sanction they are eligble like any other athlete to be considered for national selection.

 

[skippy]

WHAT did D#ck Pound get an award for recently ?

Being Canadian ? Ignoring what was going on in his backyard ?

Wasn't there a Canadian woman with problems a year or two back ?

THOSE who have me on IGNORE , will have missed my request for the 100th Le Tour sanctions to be announced ! Doubt ryder managed to fool all the people , all the time , if rasmus is tipping the bucket ?

Sounds like the UCI version of a " T & R " will be able to offer 6mth salaried holidays this time around ?

 

[Rip:30]

He started before Rasmussen helped refine his technique.

Ryder was being mentored by Roland "clean" Green from his late teens remember. Former team mechanics and riders witnessed some very interesting equipment that rider would travel with on the mtnbike circuit. And then let's not forget Seamus McGrath was banned in 1997 for high hematocrit at WC:

 

[thehog]

Easy on the Canucks. They invented Brian Adams and Celine Dion.

 

[Catwhoorg]

https://twitter.com/Vaughters/status/395629870358990848

Waiting on a few more sign offs on statement,but needless to say @ryder_hesjedal was 100% truthful,under oath,w CCES+USADA a v long time ago

https://twitter.com/Vaughters/status/395632070208544768

@debroy62 @ryder_hesjedal Deb,sport had a very different landscape+ethos 10 yrs ago. In his time with us he's been clean. Bet my life on it

 

[happychappy]

Easy on the Canucks. They invented Brian Adams and Celine Dion.

 

[FitSsikS]

The horror....

 

[BYOP88]

Easy on the Canucks. They invented Brian Adams and Celine Dion.

I know that those 2 are more than enough gifts to the world, but Canada did also give us awesome bands like; Le Fly Pan Am, The Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & Tra-La-La Band, Godspeed You! Black Emperor and several more awesome bands which more than make up for dodgy ethics from Canadian athletes! If Spain and Italy produced bands like that Fat Pat would have given them a free pass too.

 

[Taxus4a]

Hesjedal admits his doping, but the important thing: he said he admit that already to the doping autorities a time ago.

I believe he did just a few time in the past...Maybe he was one of the cleanest riders then... but I know most of people is not going to believe that.

I just hope that people at least admit Ryder could be telling the truth. If the do, they have my respect and I find logical his thoughts, other way not.

 

[happychappy]

Canada did also give us awesome bands like

Don't forget Rush.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

I know that those 2 are more than enough gifts to the world, but Canada did also give us awesome bands like; Le Fly Pan Am, The Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & Tra-La-La Band, Godspeed You! Black Emperor and several more awesome bands which more than make up for dodgy ethics from Canadian athletes! If Spain and Italy produced bands like that Fat Pat would have given them a free pass too.

Yea, well they also gave us Arcade Fire so F**K THEM!

 

[the sceptic]

looks like he got most of the excuses in.

dark era of cycling-check
a long time ago-check
stopped long before he joined garmin-check
sport is now cleaner than ever-check

 

[Taxus4a]

looks like he got most of the excuses in.

dark era of cycling-check
a long time ago-check
stopped long before he joined garmin-check
sport is now cleaner than ever-check

And I know is like that, and for that people say that, but I understand the scekticism.

Hesjedal talked to USADA about that, what Rassmusen said is not new.
Rassmusen talk about a long time ago, and he said i didnt see Hesjedal dope, so I think Hesjedal behabiour is modelic.

 

[BroDeal]

I think we can thank Hesjedal's prior experience with doping for giving him the strength of character to resist the pressure to dope while riding for Bruyneel and Andy Rihs. Experience matters.




In London, Bruyneel may have a different memory of how it all went down.

 

[the sceptic]

And I know is like that, and for that people say that, but I understand the scekticism.

Hesjedal talked to USADA about that, what Rassmusen said is not new.
Rassmusen talk about a long time ago, and he said i didnt see Hesjedal dope, so I think Hesjedal behabiour is modelic.

Yeah im sure it was a mistake and that he only did it once. Cried himself to sleep probably.

Luckily for him that he chose to ride for clean teams after that, so he didnt have to make that choice again.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Easy on the Canucks. They invented Brian Adams and Celine Dion.

For the record, we take the 5th on Celine Dion.