Santambrogio tests positive for EPO

[rata de sentina]

Are they still using the stoopid IEF test for EPO? Maybe they have got their act together scientifically and got something a bit more up to date. Lowering the detection limits should help pick up the microdosing. Be interested in what EPO type we're looking at here.

 

[BroDeal]

Which lead us to believe the team management is somewhat aware of what they were doing in the first place. What I sttill don't get is why EPO-well knowing the risks to get caught-perhaps no money to get some BBags?
In retrospective-the entire charade of throwing DiLuca out on the streets like a dog really makes me laugh after this new scandal...

With such a short amount of time for preparation, DiLuca had to rush things. Give him earlier notification that he was going to ride the Giro and he may have used smaller doses over a longer period of time and never been caught. DiLuca may have been advising Satanbeelzebub.

The small teams probably do not have the systems in place to reliably use transfusions. I suspect DiLuca's career was made with CERA; he may have never used transfusions.

 

[thehog]

Are they still using the stoopid IEF test for EPO? Maybe they have got their act together scientifically and got something a bit more up to date. Lowering the detection limits should help pick up the microdosing. Be interested in what EPO type we're looking at here.

Which lab nabbed him? Cologne?

 

[masking_agent]

In light of this, Andy Schleck must be frantically going over his preparation now with his doctors.. ha ha

 

[observer]

Satambrogio is probably confused, maybe he though he'd just continue on the same program that he was on at BMC.

 

[Ripper]

Satambrogio is probably confused, maybe he though he'd just continue on the same program that he was on at BMC.

Oh, make no bones about it, he's increased his program from BMC days.

This is oh, sooooooooooo, surprising. Really, never would have guessed it.

EDIT -- he might have forgotten to get that payment to the UCI as quickly as he should have. Oops.

EDIT 2: those dirty Italians. The British would never dope.

 

[rata de sentina]

EDIT 2: those dirty Italians. The British would never dope.

It's a cultural thing apparently. According to Phat you can't trust those southern types. They just don't understand 'fair play'.

 

[hiero2]

The Clinic has correctly called approximately 1200% of the last doping busts.

Damn straight - and with a little luck, we'll get the next 1200%, too!

"The UCI doping controls are there to catch the dopers when nobody else will stop them. It's wonderful to see we can trust the system." David Millar (Garmin-Sharp)"

lol Yea it's amazing we can catch the use of epo now after they have been using it for about 340 years.

Hmm - I can see you might not think so, but doesn't Millar's comment strike you as somewhat sarcastic? Maybe I've gotten hypersensitive, after being submersed in the clinic environment of posters with online PhD's in Parkerisms, sarcasm, snark, wit, and verbal below-the-belt punching. Did I miss anything in that sentence? Sorry - I'm being cynical -- but realistic. Really, my 1st thought on reading that Millar tweet was to ask myself if he was being sarcastic.

 

[Ripper]

It's a cultural thing apparently. According to Phat you can't trust those southern types. They just don't understand 'fair play'.

I remember his comments about that. I just about puked. And I am simply AMAZED he is still in his role.

 

[Galic Ho]

Which lab nabbed him? Cologne?

Haven't read the thread, but assuming you are talking about Santambrogio, then it would be Rome.

I've just read the thread about him in the pro forum. Wall to wall laughs.

Thanks hrotha for your humour and candidness. Was so funny reading the reactions of others to yours stetoe and Geraint Too Fast's posts. Afrank thanks for your contributions as well. I particularly loved this quote:

Who cares if there's a "party", some people like to enjoy it when a rider wins. Talk about that kind of stuff in this thread.

Yes, you probably had a good cheer and a giggle and a jiggle. Now the truth comes out and it's all sour. But chin up lads, it was OBVIOUS Mauro was doping. I mean look at his team. Pellizotti, Di Luca, himself in career best form finishing with Evans on climbs. When did he EVER do that at BMC?

Obvious doping is OBVIOUS. Wake up and drop the denial.

Also cyclingnews, thank you so much for the comment section on the articles. It's always eye opening to see how far people are removed from reality. Lots of Clinic haters hang out there because they cannot stomach the truth and embrace lies and deception. It's educational, a tad sad.

Sad is the word that comes to mind. All this dope for what? A stage win that will be stripped? Some short term dividends that dry up and your credibility gone? These guys are just the whipping boys to throw to the anti-dopers. Too little to matter and small enough to fail without ripping the sport apart. Just another Ricco. Now that is sad. But kudos to CONI and the Italians for doing something. Two dopers who were OBVIOUS in one race caught. Well done.

 

[Afrank]

Thanks hrotha for your humour and candidness. Was so funny reading the reactions of others to yours stetoe and Geraint Too Fast's posts. Afrank thanks for your contributions as well. I particularly loved this quote:

Who cares if there's a "party", some people like to enjoy it when a rider wins. Talk about that kind of stuff in this thread.

Yes, you probably had a good cheer and a giggle and a jiggle. Now the truth comes out and it's all sour. But chin up lads, it was OBVIOUS Mauro was doping. I mean look at his team. Pellizotti, Di Luca, himself in career best form finishing with Evans on climbs. When did he EVER do that at BMC?

And I stand by that statement 100%. I never for a second thought he wasn't doping, but until it was officially proven (like it now has been) that stuff belonged in the proper thread.

And it is nice to just try to enjoy a win every now and then instead of automatically jumping straight to the doping hints and accusations. I'm not as cynical as most here.

 

[Ferminal]

Are they still using the stoopid IEF test for EPO? Maybe they have got their act together scientifically and got something a bit more up to date. Lowering the detection limits should help pick up the microdosing. Be interested in what EPO type we're looking at here.

With such a short amount of time for preparation, DiLuca had to rush things. Give him earlier notification that he was going to ride the Giro and he may have used smaller doses over a longer period of time and never been caught. DiLuca may have been advising Satanbeelzebub.

The small teams probably do not have the systems in place to reliably use transfusions. I suspect DiLuca's career was made with CERA; he may have never used transfusions.

Very interesting isn't it.

LA didn't use any transfusions in '99 did he? Just a billion units of EPO. His performances then were as good as ever. A high dose in-race EPO regime can go a long way to making up the difference to the blood baggers. The problem being that such doses today are impossible unless it's a new-gen undetectable. Santambrogio ran the gauntlet.

The blood baggers never take more than a known safe microdose of EPO. That's why an EPO microdoser only, or a clean rider (depending on starting point) may be able to compete for one week or one day.

 

[purcell]

Well, he had 2-3 months of fame.

Cycling is so much cleaner now.

Yeah, this. So much cleaner.

Where are all those riders who have been giving interviews over the last number of months telling us how the peloton is different now, that this just doesn't happen.

Idiots.

But come on, the guy popped on stage 1, they let him keep going and even take a stage win? I would rather watch the Giro than the TdF, but that's pathetic.

 

[Galic Ho]

And I stand by that statement 100%. I never for a second thought he wasn't doping, but until it was officially proven (like it now has been) that stuff belonged in the proper thread.

And it is nice to just try to enjoy a win every now and then instead of automatically jumping straight to the doping hints and accusations. I'm not as cynical as most here.

I get that. Just reading the thread in retrospect; yeah it's pretty funny for the first two pages. I especially loved Ferminal's final post. Closed for two years. Hahahaha. That is so good.

I do however find it interesting that people were celebrating and chucking a party. I thought by now people would have learnt to not believe the hype.

As for those in this thread in the first 10 pages who are known fanboys and defenders of all things Sky, stating they called it last year, righty-o!! Nice act. Not fooling anyone with that one. Keep it real please, your chameleon act sticks out like a sore thumb. If you can spot one Italian doping, how come you can't spot the more obvious Brit(s) doping? Might want to address that before professing to the Clinic your 'keen' observation skills.

Then again, take solace in the fact that that there are those who don't even dare tread in the Clinic and just pilfer the comments section of news articles. They're truly lost.

 

[purcell]

Well at least we know EPO works.

Now when is the UCI going to trap the Dawg?

Not this year, not until he wins the TdF. They've already cashed BC's cheque.

 

[observer]

has Sanambrogio made a statement?

 

[hfer07]

has Sanambrogio made a statement?

yes:

Guilty as charged

 

[spalco]

Ahahaha.

"Santambrogio in disbelief over EPO positive"

That has to be the funniest headline I've read in some time.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Ahahaha.

"Santambrogio in disbelief over EPO positive"

That has to be the funniest headline I've read in some time.

Been about a week since DiLuca said exactly the same thing.

 

[BroDeal]

Ahahaha.

"Santambrogio in disbelief over EPO positive"

That has to be the funniest headline I've read in some time.

He is surprised they got him for EPO instead of donuts, maple bars, and bear claws.

 

[Race Radio]

Stay tuned, there may be a few more positives to come

 

[observer]

Stay tuned, there may be a few more positives to come

from Vini Fantini, or in general?

I guess if this one is day one, then there may be more. Maybe a new EPO test is catching them all.

 

[Kwibus]

Stay tuned, there may be a few more positives to come

Great news. Im hoping for a big name.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

From the Secret Pro:

''I noticed that Cadel Evans came second on stage 3 of the Giro. Good on him — it’s always good to see him doing well. As I wrote this I thought Cadel’s best days were behind him, but now I see he’s absolutely flying. He’s seemed quite bitter in the bunch lately and has been going around grumbling in Italian and moaning about other teams. He’s always had a chip on his shoulder, but this time it’s much more than a chip, it’s a whole bag of Doritos!''

Guess Cadel would know a little bit on Mauro's abilities.
From packfodder to KOM, guilty by performance.

Linked before but very informative:
http://www.alternativeditions.com/2013/06/02/les-calculs-de-puissance-du-tour-d-italie-2013/

The question should always be who is doing what.

 

[Miburo]

Great news. Im hoping for a big name.

I don't really see any more suspect names. Well suspect-level of di luca or santambrogio of course.

Nibali is my biggest guess but i doubt he would get caught, he ain't that stupid and he gets protection