Santambrogio tests positive for EPO

[BroDeal]

Surprised you could get through, I would think the hotline is in virtual meltdown with the entire peloton calling constantly.

It did take a while. They put me on hold, and the muzak was a cover of Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" sung with a vague Irish accent.

 

[Ripper]

It did take a while. They put me on hold, and the muzak was a cover of Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" sung with a vague Irish accent.

Hmm, whenever I call the hotline I get "Eye of the Tiger"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsyMtYoSkC0

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

So the ol 'guilty by performance' works just fine for the guys in the field, just not for the interwarriors. How enlightning.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Hmm, whenever I call the hotline I get "Eye of the Tiger"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsyMtYoSkC0

I got The Verve and 'The drugs don't work'.

 

[classicomano]

Santa injected himself in the cheeks, judging from the pictures...or did he just come back from an appointment with the dentist for removal of wisdom teeth. If so, they dug so deep his brain leaked out.

Posted this in another thread, it instantly reminded me of it when I saw his ballooned up face

Guess not, though it did remind me of this passage in Hamilton's book:

"He told me about bloatface, a reaction that happens when you take too much cortisone, and he reminded me of Ullrich in the final time trial of the '97 Tour. His face had been the size of a ****ing pumpkin."

 

[Galic Ho]

B-Bag mistakes could happen to anybody.

Fuentes is infamous for mucking them up and they pay him the big bucks. Hamilton and Manzano spring to mind.

 

[rata de sentina]

I got The Verve and 'The drugs don't work'.

Damn all I get is "I'm corrupt" by DCUP
http://www.jplay.com.au/JSite/ViewSong.aspx?SongID=44064

 

[Benotti69]

Sagan looking very 'puffy cheeked' a la Santambrogio

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-2013/stage-3/photos/269133

 

[Netserk]

Sagan looking very 'puffy cheeked' a la Santambrogio

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-2013/stage-3/photos/269133

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17199

 

[Afrank]

So a photo that makes a rider look like they have puffy cheeks (I don't see it BTW) is now proof of doping?

 

[Alpechraxler]

After a ride in the cold and wet i also get puffy checks.

 

[gooner]

So a photo that makes a rider look like they have puffy cheeks (I don't see it BTW) is now proof of doping?

Like I said just there in the Froome thread, when I see the discussion going along these lines, I can't help but think I'm in the wrong forum. Just a minority but it ruins the discussion and it amazes me how people use it to further their argument to get a doping discussion going.

 

[ToreBear]

Santambrogio looked more bloated than puffy IMHO. Could be there is something doing the needle rounds, but could also have other explanations.

How people look is how people look. There might be something interesting here, then again there might not.

 

[pmcg76]

Like I said just there in the Froome thread, when I see the discussion going along these lines, I can't help but think I'm in the wrong forum. Just a minority but it ruins the discussion and it amazes me how people use it to further their argument to get a doping discussion going.

Look at who posts this stuff, what do you expect!! The expression clinic 12 is a polite description for that particular group of posters.

 

[gooner]

McQuaid on Irish TV tonight and talking about the positives from the Giro, said it was the Italian police that got on to WADA and then onto the UCI who then targeted tested one of the riders as a result.

Obviously Santambrogio he is referring to.

 

[DirtyWorks]

McQuaid on Irish TV tonight and talking about the positives from the Giro, said it was the Italian police that got on to WADA and then onto the UCI who then targeted tested one of the riders as a result.

Obviously Santambrogio he is referring to.

Interesting. It seems like the promoter just isn't testing for EPO. Which is perfectly within the rules and mentioned in the UCI's anti-doping report for 2012.

Cleanest peloton ever.

 

[search]

according to the anti doping statistics which were relased yesterday about ~50% are tested for epo

 

[burning]

according to the anti doping statistics which were relased yesterday about ~50% are tested for epo

For Giro 2013 or for general?

 

[search]

overall, in 2012

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=ODczMTA&LangId=1

but I have just double checked that, for in-competition tests the number is just 21%

edit: and the overall number is 73% (not 50%), I don't know why I had 50 in mind

 

[Fatclimber]

Like I said just there in the Froome thread, when I see the discussion going along these lines, I can't help but think I'm in the wrong forum. Just a minority but it ruins the discussion and it amazes me how people use it to further their argument to get a doping discussion going.

Wasn't 'face-bloat' a term Hamilton used in his book to describe a certain after effect of hormone injections? I could be wrong.

 

[Granville57]

Wasn't 'face-bloat' a term Hamilton used in his book to describe a certain after effect of hormone injections? I could be wrong.

He spoke about the bloating effect of anabolic steroids. How they caused skin rashes and weren't very effective in long, hot stage races. Then EPO came along...


He also mentions experimenting with HgH at the suggestion of del Moral, but that it made his legs "heavy and bloated" and made him "feel like crap" so he stopped.

I'm pretty sure that Floyd also had a negative reaction to HgH. EPO, a bit of "T" and some extra blood. That was the magic combo.

 

[whittashau]

Sagan looking very 'puffy cheeked' a la Santambrogio

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-suisse-2013/stage-3/photos/269133

 

[manafana]

sagan must read this forum

 

[Krebs cycle]

So a photo that makes a rider look like they have puffy cheeks (I don't see it BTW) is now proof of doping?

yeah apparently if you have puffy cheeks you're a doper, but also if you are as thin as a rake then you're also doping.

So when you take the dope that causes puffy cheeks and combine it with the dope that helps you lose weight, the effects cancel each other out and thus if you appear normal looking on the "looks like quacks like" anti-doping test, you are a doper.

Since all cyclists are either thin, or normal looking, or have puffy cheeks this means that everyone is still doping and nothing has changed. And since Lance never tested positive you can't actually catch anyone with the test, therefore, it's sole purpose is to promote interweb mass debate.

 

[argyllflyer]

yeah apparently if you have puffy cheeks you're a doper, but also if you are as thin as a rake then you're also doping.

So when you take the dope that causes puffy cheeks and combine it with the dope that helps you lose weight, the effects cancel each other out and thus if you appear normal looking on the "looks like quacks like" anti-doping test, you are a doper.

Since all cyclists are either thin, or normal looking, or have puffy cheeks this means that everyone is still doping and nothing has changed. And since Lance never tested positive you can't actually catch anyone with the test, therefore, it's sole purpose is to promote interweb mass debate.

I recall a year ago Wiggins had a lot to say about those who are into "mass debate".