Santambrogio tests positive for EPO

[JimmyFingers]

No you're getting it all wrong. Italian and Spanish dopers who get caught are victims while Anglo/German ones are bullies. Never forget this basic truth. If in doubt go read the thread about Kittel calling out Sayer.

 

[The Hitch]

I have sympathy for anyone who is suicidal, doper or not (my thoughts turn to Obree), but then I don't like accusing people of doping without real evidence either

Never stopped you with cancellara and Horner.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

No you're getting it all wrong. Italian and Spanish dopers who get caught are victims while Anglo/German ones are bullies. Never forget this basic truth. If in doubt go read the thread about Kittel calling out Sayer.

What has kittel calling out sayer got to do with Santambrogio feeling suicidal?...i dont think vdb is a spanish or italian.

 

[del1962]

Never stopped you with cancellara and Horner.

Horner - rider 15, DiCanio accusations

Cance - Tyler's accusations of Fuentes client.

Raise question marks

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

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Very classy BS.

 

[goggalor]

Idiot of the day:

https://twitter.com/NikiTerpstra/status/388558665026125824

**** pro cycling. I can't think of a worse working environment than the peloton.

 

[JRTinMA]

Horner - rider 15, DiCanio accusations

Cance - Tyler's accusations of Fuentes client.

Raise question marks

DiCanio as a source lol. He prints a lot of truths and as much crap. I guess you can separate the facts from the bull**** he spews.

 

[Taxus4a]

If Horner or another riders did something was in other era. There was a lot of riders that are not heros but maybe were victims and pay in excess
The stupid riders are who dope in this era.
I have as well symphaty for the suicidals, but this is not a case that deserve that.

 

[EnacheV]

So what's going on here ? An italian doper is mourned by few dopeborgs who spare no BS posts against the new cycling gods, the ones that prevent panached riders to win anymore?

Who would have thought dopeborgs are so subjective.

Doped ? GTFO for 2 years. More ? GTFO for life. And don't cry after.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

If you have paid attention "doperborgs" were the first one laughing at Santambrogio's while he was riding ridiculous.

 

[The Hitch]

I don't like accusing people of doping without real evidence either

Horner - rider 15, DiCanio accusations

Cance - Tyler's accusations of Fuentes client.

Raise question marks

Way to disprove your own boasting

 

[JRTinMA]

So what's going on here ? An italian doper is mourned by few dopeborgs who spare no BS posts against the new cycling gods, the ones that prevent panached riders to win anymore?

Who would have thought dopeborgs are so subjective.

Doped ? GTFO for 2 years. More ? GTFO for life. And don't cry after.

You have it all wrong, the clinic only hates mean dopers. Well intended dopers, educated dopers, dopers who don't take responsibility and sad dopers all have much love here.

 

[kingjr]

Idiot of the day:

https://twitter.com/NikiTerpstra/status/388558665026125824

Why is he an idot? Attentionwhoring that's all there is to it. There's no wrong in pointing that out. It's not about twitter-followers though, he just wants the world to pity him.

 

[hrotha]

You guys are sick if you can't see the difference between pro cycling and a ****ing human life. Santambrogio is already out of pro cycling, and rightly so. I was one of the most vocal critics of Santambrogio the doper. That's not the issue - this is about Santambrogio the person. If it was Armstrong, who's the meanest, baddest doper there ever was, I'd still feel the same, because I have this little human thing called empathy.

Why is he an idot? Attentionwhoring that's all there is to it. There's no wrong in pointing that out. It's not about twitter-followers though, he just wants the world to pity him.

Mental disorders are just as misunderstood as always, it seems.

 

[kingjr]

You guys are sick if you can't see the difference between pro cycling and a ****ing human life. Santambrogio is already out of pro cycling, and rightly so. I was one of the most vocal critics of Santambrogio the doper. That's not the issue - this is about Santambrogio the person. If it was Armstrong, who's the meanest, baddest doper there ever was, I'd still feel the same, because I have this little human thing called empathy.

I don't have empathy for public self-pity. I think it's disgusting. If he needs help, he needs help, i respect that, and I hope he gets the help he needs and recovers, but there's no need to make this sort of public statement, cause that's definitely not gonna help him. The only purpose is to make people say "Oh I feel so sorry for you".

Mental disorders are just as misunderstood as always, it seems.

Nope

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Why is he an idot? Attentionwhoring that's all there is to it. There's no wrong in pointing that out. It's not about twitter-followers though, he just wants the world to pity him.

You are right, Terpstra is an attention hore pur sang.

 

[gooner]

You guys are sick if you can't see the difference between pro cycling and a ****ing human life. Santambrogio is already out of pro cycling, and rightly so. I was one of the most vocal critics of Santambrogio the doper. That's not the issue - this is about Santambrogio the person. If it was Armstrong, who's the meanest, baddest doper there ever was, I'd still feel the same, because I have this little human thing called empathy.

Mental disorders are just as misunderstood as always, it seems.

Exact same feeling and something I said about LA a few days back. Jurgen Klopp put this in the right perspective when he was asked his opinion on LA. This is something the sports governing bodies can help out more on. The riders unions should play a big part in this as well. This isn't like retirement when you are off the bike and you can plan for your life afterwards.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

You guys are sick if you can't see the difference between pro cycling and a ****ing human life. Santambrogio is already out of pro cycling, and rightly so. I was one of the most vocal critics of Santambrogio the doper. That's not the issue - this is about Santambrogio the person. If it was Armstrong, who's the meanest, baddest doper there ever was, I'd still feel the same, because I have this little human thing called empathy.

Mental disorders are just as misunderstood as always, it seems.

Amen.

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[Taxus4a]

You guys are sick if you can't see the difference between pro cycling and a ****ing human life. Santambrogio is already out of pro cycling, and rightly so. I was one of the most vocal critics of Santambrogio the doper. That's not the issue - this is about Santambrogio the person. If it was Armstrong, who's the meanest, baddest doper there ever was, I'd still feel the same, because I have this little human thing called empathy.

Mental disorders are just as misunderstood as always, it seems.

Ou, Froome, Wiggins,... they are not persons? They are clean and very comitted always againts doping, but they must suffer people as you all the year, and nobody put in his side.

I am sorry if Mauro feels bad, maybe that help others riders who think about to act like him to think twice.

I want to suicice some days and I try to ask for help in friend,,,, but he did a big fault nowadays, and I have never heard him to apologize. Apologize, say what you know, and after that I will be comprensive.

This way I understand and support Teprstra. he is a pro rider, looking how another mate of profession was laughing at his face and cheating, I would be very angry.

I was a big fan of Di Luca, but I hope he feells today very bad.

 

[thehog]

Ou, Froome, Wiggins,... they are not persons? They are clean and very comitted always againts doping, but they must suffer people as you all the year, and nobody put in his side.

I am sorry if Mauro feels bad, maybe that help others riders who think about to act like him to think twice.

I want to suicice some days and I try to ask for help in friend,,,, but he did a big fault nowadays, and I have never heard him to apologize. Apologize, say what you know, and after that I will be comprensive.

This way I understand and support Teprstra. he is a pro rider, looking how another mate of profession was laughing at his face and cheating, I would be very angry.

I was a big fan of Di Luca, but I hope he feells today very bad.

Do you think Froome is cleans?

 

[Taxus4a]

Do you think Froome is cleans?

Are you sure Mauro did the same as others?
I think Froome is clean as the majority of the peloton today, there is nothing that make me think in other way, (by the contrary, i get evidence things are like that day by day), as it was with Lance. He wanst proved guilty, but the evidence was there, lot of fingers pointed him, a mafious behaviour, an incredible perfomance (very superior to Froome if you analyze well every climnb and not only get a climb without a good analysys as Froome 3rd better time in Ax 3 Domaines in History, I dont have problems to argue this issue), he beated proven dopers, and, of course, the antidoping that era was a joke. If the prove againts Froome is Leinders, maybe I dont have anything to argue, that is not a prove of anything.

But the question is not if I believe Froome is cleans, the question is that he could be clean, and I give enought evidence he could be clean, and nobody put is his side... but a proven doper as Mauro, got that sympathy.

 

[thehog]

Are you sure Mauro did the same as others?
I think Froome is clean as the majority of the peloton today, there is nothing that make me think in other way, (by the contrary, i get evidence things are like that day by day), as it was with Lance. He wanst proved guilty, but the evidence was there, lot of fingers pointed him, a mafious behaviour, an
But the question is not if I believe Froome is cleans, the question is that he could be clean, and I give enought evidence he could be clean, and nobody put is his side... but a proven doper as Mauro, got that sympathy.

I just wanted you to say 'cleans'.

Ironically your logic is surprising better than others on the Chris squared thread in relation to Ax3

Please tell me you'll always say 'cleans'?

 

[Taxus4a]

I just wanted you to say 'cleans'.

Ironically your logic is surprising better than others on the Chris squared thread in relation to Ax3

Please tell me you'll always say 'cleans'?

It was just a typhografic mistake, I did as well in my lenguage, spanish, I put just one of three cleans intead clean.

Sorry for the mistake, but of you read me again you will see there is just one "cleans", so I use to say clean

 

[thehog]

It was just a typhografic mistake, I did as well in my lenguage, spanish, I put just one of three cleans intead clean.

Sorry for the mistake, but of you read me again you will see there is just one "cleans", so I use to say cleans

I love it!

3 cleans!

 

[JimmyFingers]

You do know English isn't his first language right? No need to mock someone because they struggle writing in another language.