Schlecks Depreciation Thread

[Oreknan]

he seems that he's not improving his TT since 2009 (he lost 1:45 with the winner contador in 40km).
in 2010 was 50km he lost more time with the real comparison that is menchov who was the best TT of the overrall riders (that rides in similar time than him) because there was a strong headwind is unrealistic compare with others guys who rides a lot of time before
today probably is the worst TT of the three.

Anyway with the time of evans there was no chance for him because he need the 3th best time (better than contador), totally unrealistic

 

[Jeanne]

Your being nice. I can understand that, but the seconds get thick at a distance of 42ks.

A loss of two minutes is getting you a** kicked. Sorry, but true.

I never said anything against that. I just think it's pointless to blame them they did not work enough on their time trial, because they did for sure, but their bodies are simply not made for it! I think considering they have not a time-trialists body and strength they perform quite well.

 

[Jeanne]

he seems that he's not improving his TT since 2009 (he lost 1:45 with the winner contador in 40km).
in 2010 was 50km he lost more time with the real comparison that is menchov who was the best TT of the overrall riders (that rides in similar time than him) because there was a strong headwind is unrealistic compare with others
today probably is the worst TT of the three.

Anyway with the time of evans there was no chance for him because he need the 3th best time (better than contador), totally unrealistic

thanx, that is exactly my point.

 

[BillytheKid]

Andy finished 44th last year in the final TT, this year 17th. Yeah, obviously he did not improve at all

Your right they gave it their all. Improved. Cadel was just better. I think they all knew he was strong. He did a lot on his own those last two days in the mountains. Great, great ride.

 

[Roninho]

1-Frank and Andy should ride in different teams (will not happen)
2-Andy needs to have a tough coach telling him what to do (attack in the Pyrinees) and to shut the mouth up.
3-He should try Giro or Vuelta. Obviously next year TdF and Vuelta, if it he still is 2nd then the Giro in 2013.
4-Improve his TT, probably getting a bit more muscular. This year´s route was suited to him, I guess there will be 2 TTs next year.

He has many things to do

Actually, imo Andy just needs a good race-director with tactical skills. The strategy to wait in the pyrinees cost them deerly. Andy and Frank can only win the TDF in the mountains, and what did they do in the pyrinees? They don't attack, and keep Voeckler, Basso and Contador (?) in contention ensuring that Evans and BCM have partners in crime to counter/work together when one of the schlecks attacks. It's like Cadel doing a ITT at 90% because he'll have another ITT coming at the end of the TDF.

As for going for the Giro or Vuelta: the guy finished 2nd twice in the TDF, there is absolutely no reason for him to drop the tdf and go for a giro or vuelta. A guy like Basso yeah, he actually has more to gain (a giro win) with little to lose (without a lot of luck i don't see him finishing podium in the tdf).

 

[Phlakaton]

Imho, this must be the "Quote of the day" for this rest day, with many interviews:

"It would be boring without us"
The Schleck bro's

Maybe it should be ingraved on the virtual grave stone, if they lose the TdF?

Feel free to add your own "Quote of the day" from the various interviews...

Yeah... TV had nothing to do with how fun this tour was. Stooges.

 

[Phlakaton]

I never said anything against that. I just think it's pointless to blame them they did not work enough on their time trial, because they did for sure, but their bodies are simply not made for it! I think considering they have not a time-trialists body and strength they perform quite well.

and they dont utilize the position on the road well enough to get a purely solid TT done. Andy was all over the road according to Magnus B and he didnt bother sheltering himself from wind conditions when he could have. Small things add up... not that it would have helped today though. Booyah!

 

[Jeanne]

and they dont utilize the position on the road well enough to get a purely solid TT done. Andy was all over the road according to Magnus B and he didnt bother sheltering himself from wind conditions when he could have. Small things add up... not that it would have helped today though. Booyah!

yeah they had no chance against Cadel in the TT anyway. I don't think they ever will, unless Cadel has the worst day in his life or so. Andy looked very uncomfortable on his bike today IMO, worse than usual. Too nervous?

 

[Sophistic]

i cant believe how crappy their TT set up still is, guys like Evans or Martin or Conti are totally compact with the knees almost going over the bars while the Schlecks are leaving so much space...

 

[Benotti69]

the Schlecks not talking to the media?

No quotes or post TT interviews?

Better to say something then nothing, saying nothing makes them look like vey bad losers.

 

[Jeanne]

Andy Schleck via Twitter:

"I am proud of my of my team and my fans thanks for all the support and even more proud to stand with my solemate@schleckfrank on the poddium.

Congarts to Cadel to you deserve that! Happy for you and your team BMC!its been a great battle looking forward to next year all ready!!!"

 

[Benotti69]

he gave NBC a 1 minute interview

http://www.steephill.tv/players/720...&dashboard=tour-de-france&id=43865586&yr=2011

 

[Kwibus]

Andy Schleck via Twitter:

"I am proud of my of my team and my fans thanks for all the support and even more proud to stand with my solemate@schleckfrank on the poddium.

Congarts to Cadel to you deserve that! Happy for you and your team BMC!its been a great battle looking forward to next year all ready!!!"

Like a good sport.
+1 for Andy.

 

[Carols]

Open a bike shop

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Either that or acquire some bike handling skills and learn to ride a ITT.

Maybe someday he'll grow up and take his job seriously. If he ever wants to win a GT that is.

 

[hrotha]

Andy finished 44th last year in the final TT, this year 17th. Yeah, obviously he did not improve at all

You can't use last year's results. All the GC guys were way down due to the wind.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Andy Schleck finished top 10 in the final Giro ITT in 2007.
He obviously regressed

/people using placings as logic

 

[VeloCity]

2nd and 3rd overall, a stage win, second in the mountains competition, Andy with probably the most memorable attack in the Tour, Leopard second in the team competition - I'd say the Schlecks had a pretty f**king impressive Tour.

 

[BYOP88]

hey, I didn't say they made no mistakes and had no chance to get one of them, on the top of the podium! Maybe it was too bad for them they got some advantage over Contador after the first stage.
But whatever - I still think a brother-double on a TDF podium is remarkable (did this ever happen before? don't think so?)!!

Yeah because in 30 years time everyone will go who won the 2011 TdF? I don't know but both Schlecks made the podium.

 

[US Patent Exploding Cyclist]

The only time it will be mentioned is if another pair of brothers are going after a double podium.

It still is impressive though.

 

[Magnus]

2nd and 3rd overall, a stage win, second in the mountains competition, Andy with probably the most memorable attack in the Tour, Leopard second in the team competition - I'd say the Schlecks had a pretty f**king impressive Tour.

Before today:
"We'd rather have one brother win and the other outside top ten than 2nd and 3rd."

Sure they had an impressive tour, if you disregard the fact that they didn't achieve their goal. You could also say that Sabatini had an impressive tour, since finishing in itself is impressive...

 

[Winterfold]

this tour was made for them, lots of mountains and not as much ITT's and they couldn't pull it off. Can't see them ever winning the tour now.

+1

Let's hope we stop this pandering to the one trick ponies and have a more sensible balance next year.

This is a huge victory for rouleurs and allrounders and let us hope we see more balanced courses on GTs.

If the climbers want to win they better put some muscles on and get better at TTs and descending because Cadel was good enough to beat all the pure climbers here overall.

(Contador I dont consider a pure climber, he is a proper all-rounder, who lis lucky to be slightly built)

 

[Winterfold]

No Wiggo, no JVDB - this was Andy's chance and he blew it.

He was handed up this and he got owned by a rouleur.

Let's see a rouleurs parcours next year and see what the "world's second best stage racer" can do?

 

[Jeanne]

You can't use last year's results. All the GC guys were way down due to the wind.

Alright then. But still, he did a good job today. It's not his business to be a super strong time trialist. I'm repeating myself over and over again

 

[Jeanne]

Yeah because in 30 years time everyone will go who won the 2011 TdF? I don't know but both Schlecks made the podium.

Yes, I think, people might remember this.

 

[icefire]

Andy lost a bet with Posthuma today. He will have to eat 20 hamburgers in 2 hours.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2011/07/23/ciclismo/1311443292.html