Schlecks Depreciation Thread

[mr. tibbs]

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Galic, you're definitely overreaching here. Please stop attacking other members who are actually posting factual information. We can do this publicly, if you want. Or through PMs. It's okay with me, either way.

 

[HL2037]

It was a brave attack yesterday. But it doesn't take away the less than charming sides that Andy has shown since he left Saxo. And it doesn't take away the self righteous complaining that has been coming from the Schlecks during this tour. If Andy wins he obviously deserved it. But I still don't think he has the mind of a great champion.

 

[Galic Ho]

Galic, you're definitely overreaching here. Please stop attacking other members who are actually posting factual information. We can do this publicly, if you want. Or through PMs. It's okay with me, either way.

Over reacting. Why? Because some Dane misread what I wrote. As I said. English forum, talk was in English regarding English speaking nations and a Danish poster incorrectly assumed his nation was being ridiculed. They weren't. Not once. If he can't get his *** together and not misplace what is given in humour and also in a completely different context, then too bad. As I said, he has no idea of what I was talking about considering he isn't watching English commentators in an English speaking nation preaching to viewers backed with information from a man (O'Grady) who never once mentioned anything Danish.

Cerberus was grasping for straws. If he or any other poster wants to warp my points and get all patriotically huffy without merit, I'll reply back. As I said...if he doesn't like it I can find him a Danish forum. Or I can find him a LeoTard to wear whilst he's cheering the Schlecks! Take your pick. I wasn't picking on Danes...I never mentioned them, I mentioned Germanic origins...because that's what O'Grady has been saying to Aussie viewers.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Galic Ho: Drop it please. Enough is enough.

Susan

 

[bicing]

Respect the climb Schlecks, respect the race, attack to win! Respect gained from yesterday is diminsihing!!!!!!

 

[mr. tibbs]

Galic Ho: Drop it please. Enough is enough.

Susan

It was my fault, too. I was on one last night.

 

[Angliru]

Respect the climb Schlecks, respect the race, attack to win! Respect gained from yesterday is diminsihing!!!!!!

What have I missed? I haven't read any interviews other than the one on Cycling News.

 

[hrotha]

Respect the climb Schlecks, respect the race, attack to win! Respect gained from yesterday is diminsihing!!!!!!

I'm sorry, did you watch the stage? They were completely spent.

 

[Thomsena]

3 ITT's next year. Bye bye, Andy..

 

[roundabout]

10km + 10km +10km?

 

[Thomsena]

10km + 10km +10km?

No. 105 km + 412 km + 102 km.

 

[AboutTimer]

The New York Times reports that Andy Schleck was 'annoyed' that he didn't get help from Evans on Alpe d'Huez. 'Nuff said.

 

[GreasyMonkey]

Seriously harden the F&#K up or at least tell Shlecklet to. Wouter died and how did Leopard react? Like pussies. Brice Feillu wanted to honour his team mate by racing. Team leaves. Go figure.

What you just written is *** beyond belief. If a professional rider has that much fear of riding, he should remove himself from the race because with his mindset he is a danger to the peloton. I don't care how many people have crashed in the year, that is separate and yes tragic and bad, but it has nothing to do with this parcours and the race. Every use of "dangerous course" and "descents" is always, always done by a Leopard Trek rider. Why? Not because it is dangerous, nobodies crashed the last few days other than Hivert and Voeckler mismanaging a few corners. So why? Because Schleck 1 and Schleck 2 have a weakness. A weakness they don't want people to exploit. Just the same old ridiculous notions of self entitlement paraded by this team again and again. "Only our way is the right way." Sheesh dude, use your brain and stop buying into the lies and PR nonsense. Ever heard of questioning? It's permitted...ALWAYS!

They know the course. If they have a deficiency in their cycling repetoirre it is up to them to rectify their training to improve themselves. Did I hear the Schlecks complaing when Jurgen and Vino went out? Was it dangerous then? Did I see them wait...no they pushed the pace harder by sending the big Leopard Trek boys to the front. Contradiction no? Hypocritical yes, maybe not to you though. No...only now, when they are losing time is there a problem with how the race is being ridden. That is the difference. Same nonsense as last year. Andy can't do something and it's everyone elses fault he lost time. It's self serving BS, nothing more. Everyone else descended well. Everyone else can shift properly without dropping a chain. Only the Schlecks complain. They are losers. Nothing more nothing less. It will be quite fitting when they don't make the podium. Your points would hold weight if non Leopard Trek riders were whinging...but they aren't.

What you've tried to defend is arrogance beyond comprehension personified in an egotistical little boy who believes he is the best rider in the world and any move that he cannot match is automatically heresy, disrespectful and poor sportmanship. What you've weakly defended is bad sportsmanship and a sore loser. In Australia we have a saying..."Harden the F&#K up!" Schleck would be well versed to do so.

Hear, hear, Galic Ho!!

Totally agree.

 

[Magnus]

frank does his best as he's way too limited to ever ride podium in the tour

Say what?

 

[cineteq]

Andy's been shrugging off his TT preparation all year. Hope it's the end of his arrogance

 

[AboutTimer]

I hope, if asked, that the Schlecks break precedent and say something classy about today's stage. They have no excuses.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

they probably wont. or andy wont.

 

[taiwan]

So what next for Andy?

A change of approach seems appropriate, like racing week long stage races, a Giro or a Vuelta for the win. I mean a Giro may well suit a pure climber like him (although maybe he wouldn't like the gradients).

On the other hand if he does the same next year he'll still go in as either the no.2 or no.3 favourite. I could understand him just trying again.

What should he do next in your opinion?

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

When does the whinging from, the Schlecks begin? Descents, cold weather, and time trials should not be allowed in the Tour de France.

 

[sultanofhyd]

So what next for Andy?

A change of approach seems appropriate, like racing week long stage races, a Giro or a Vuelta for the win. I mean a Giro may well suit a pure climber like him (although maybe he wouldn't like the gradients).

On the other hand if he does the same next year he'll still go in as either the no.2 or no.3 favourite. I could understand him just trying again.

What should he do next in your opinion?

What are you talking about? Plateau de Beille is not steep enough for Andy. He will love the Giro!

 

[sartoris]

So what next for Andy?

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What should he do next in your opinion?

Open a bike shop

 

[roundabout]

Why wouldn't he like the gradients? He was very good in 07 on steep climbs apart from really explosive stuff like Tre Cime which is only about 3k long.

He should aim for the Tour. The aren't really that many week long stage races that are mountainious enough for him.

 

[K-0tic]

Maybe it's not the preparation, maybe they are just not good enough as a time trialist. Both finished within the top-20 , which is quite normal for them. It seems a bit weird to get to know the parcours just on the day of the race but then again if your legs are not good enough. They should have gained more time uphill, that's all I can think about.

 

[khardung la]

So what next for Andy?

1-Frank and Andy should ride in different teams (will not happen)
2-Andy needs to have a tough coach telling him what to do (attack in the Pyrinees) and to shut the mouth up.
3-He should try Giro or Vuelta. Obviously next year TdF and Vuelta, if it he still is 2nd then the Giro in 2013.
4-Improve his TT, probably getting a bit more muscular. This year´s route was suited to him, I guess there will be 2 TTs next year.

He has many things to do

 

[US Patent Exploding Cyclist]

I doubt Andy will like the Giro because of the descents. He just needs to get a lot better at the TT, it is as simple as that.