Schlecks Depreciation Thread

[Christian]

Damn Fränky better stay away from any fist fights with your 65 kg that will not end well for you. No Cancellara, Voigt or O'Grady to back him up all he has is a bunch of kids and light weights, hopefully they have some of the bodyguards from Lance's time around

 

[El Pistolero]

Come on now J, he rides for vaughters how can you not trust him?

Cause he has no regards to the rules what so ever. Rasmussen that is. Doubt he ever read them.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Nothing unfair in a fight among grown *** man esp when they are on a bike.

 

[El Pistolero]

Apples and oranges. But since u bring it up I remember Franckie-boy transferring some money to a certain Dr. Fuentes for a "traning-program". But that all belong in the clinic and has nothing to do with this incident



haha unfair fight. Rasmussen weight like like 20-30 kg more

I'm not talking about doping. I don't know why Rasmussen missed those tests, but everyone else who did has been banned, so he should be banned as well. As for Frank, yeah I agree.

 

[Magnus]

Pushing a team-mate on a climb is forbidden. And this guy should be banned for a year already anyway. How Alex Rasmussen still has any respect in the peloton I do not know.

If you wanna badmouth Alex go do it in the Schlekcs Appreciation Thread, this thread is about bashing Schleks.

 

[Fetisoff]

If you wanna badmouth Alex go do it in the Schlekcs Appreciation Thread, this thread is about bashing Schleks.

This is CN forums, dude. The "Schleck appreciation thread" is actually the one that's about Schleck bashing. This one's more of a free-for-all

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Pushing a team-mate on a climb is forbidden. And this guy should be banned for a year already anyway. How Alex Rasmussen still has any respect in the peloton I do not know.

According to Rasmussen, he gave Vande Velde a push to avoid crashing (and he says that that's what those who witnessed it will say as well).

 

[Cimber]

According to Rasmussen, he gave Vande Velde a push to avoid crashing (and he says that that's what those who witnessed it will say as well).

And he says that he pushed him 5 mins before the incident with Franck. And ye that witnesses will back him up.

 

[Cimber]

I'm not talking about doping. I don't know why Rasmussen missed those tests, but everyone else who did has been banned, so he should be banned as well. As for Frank, yeah I agree.

Dont disagree, just dont see how this is relevant in this case. At least u cant use as a testimony that he is less credible than franckie

 

[Caruut]

Lol so basically one of them is lying but since we hate Schleck we can conclude it's him. Or no one is lying and they both honestly believe their story to be true so we'll probably never resolve this. Except we hate Schleck so that resolves it!

It's not because Schleck is disliked that people are more inclined to believe Ras - it's because of why Schleck is disliked. Be a whiny b**** who can't accept responsibility for his own failure, and people start to think you're a whiny b**** who can't accept responsibility for his own failure. Logical, really.

 

[lostincosmos]

It's not because Schleck is disliked that people are more inclined to believe Ras - it's because of why Schleck is disliked. Be a whiny b**** who can't accept responsibility for his own failure, and people start to think you're a whiny b**** who can't accept responsibility for his own failure. Logical, really.

so so true....both Schlecks seem to whine about something to avoid any responsibility at any given moment.

and to be fair, andy is getting a ton of positive press for a "breakaway move" in last year's tour that was really more about the peloton completely botching the chase.

so the schlecks get a lot of POSITIVE press they don't deserve either

 

[jens_attacks]

To expand on this:

Danish television confronted Fränk with the Rasmussen statement (that Fränk was lying) and Fränk was clearly angry saying "I'm lying? Well, get him here then and I'll..." he was then sort of pushed away by one of the RadioShack dudes and then drove away.

=))))))))))))))))00ahahahahahah

lol are there any videos about this beef?
that's absolutely hilarious and i'd like to see a fight

 

[Christian]

It's not because Schleck is disliked that people are more inclined to believe Ras - it's because of why Schleck is disliked. Be a whiny b**** who can't accept responsibility for his own failure, and people start to think you're a whiny b**** who can't accept responsibility for his own failure. Logical, really.

Your premise is quite questionable since it's solely built on your opinion. Your reasoning is basically (A <=> B) => C => D, except A and B are basically the same thing so it's a meaningless tautology.

Caruut knows nothing about cycling therefore I think he knows nothing about cycling. Likewise, I think Caruut knows nothing about cycling therefore he knows nothing about cycling (A <=> B). Therefore I dislike him (C), therefore I don't believe him (D).

(Normally there would have to be a line over A and D to indicate a negative statement but I don't know how to do those so I just underlined them)

 

[Caruut]

Your premise is quite questionable since it's solely built on your opinion. Your reasoning is basically (A <=> B) => C => D, except A and B are basically the same thing so it's a meaningless tautology.

Caruut knows nothing about cycling therefore I think he knows nothing about cycling. Likewise, I think Caruut knows nothing about cycling therefore he knows nothing about cycling (A <=> B). Therefore I dislike him (C), therefore I don't believe him (D).

(Normally there would have to be a line over A and D to indicate a negative statement but I don't know how to do those so I just underlined them)

I'm going with A=>B and A=>C. Schleck having history of whining (A) implies that people dislike him (B). Schleck having history of whining also implies that people are not inclined to believe him (C). I make no claim about the relationship between B and C.

That is to say, the dislike and disbelief share a common cause, but are not related in themselves.

 

[DominicDecoco]

@schleckfrank
Why nobody ask Rasmussen straight out if he gave a push to a teammate?i can turn the page but don t call it a lie Alex!

@schleckfrank
n no this had nothing to do with @ChristianVDV or Garmin he is just a mate i can talk to and actually listens.thx

@schleckfrank
Sorry that Rasmusen had to wait for an other bike and couldnt win the stage,i dislocated my sholder yesterday,i ll take it day by day

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Alex Rasmussen ‏@AlexRazi
F Schleck needs to learn about the laws of physics. If you choose to purposefully take out a rider, don't choose one twice your size. #snap

 

[Christian]

I'm going with A=>B and A=>C. Schleck having history of whining (A) implies that people dislike him (B). Schleck having history of whining also implies that people are not inclined to believe him (C). I make no claim about the relationship between B and C.

That is to say, the dislike and disbelief share a common cause, but are not related in themselves.

Ah I see what you mean. When you express it like that I really can't argue with you because "history of whining" doesn't necessarily mean "whining b!tch" and "disbelief" doesn't mean it's not true. Your transcription is correct but the logic in itself is still wrong, albeit very human.

By the way I had to go back and change my transcription a little bit, I may not have chosen the best example because in the Schleck example it's (A <=> B and in the Caruut knows nothing about cycling example it's A <=> B)

 

[Christian]

purposefully take out a rider

lol and what exactly had Schleck to gain from targeting Rasmussen and couldn't he have sent one of his underlings to do the dirty work for him?!

 

[Zam_Olyas]

lol and what exactly had Schleck to gain from targeting Rasmussen and couldn't he have sent one of his underlings to do the dirty work for him?!

I dont know..but thats what alex rasmussen tweeted.

 

[jens_attacks]

@schleckfrank
Why nobody ask Rasmussen straight out if he gave a push to a teammate?i can turn the page but don t call it a lie Alex!

@schleckfrank
n no this had nothing to do with @ChristianVDV or Garmin he is just a mate i can talk to and actually listens.thx

@schleckfrank
Sorry that Rasmusen had to wait for an other bike and couldnt win the stage,i dislocated my sholder yesterday,i ll take it day by day

haha grande frankie,remembers me of another great one in this kind of things...2008 it was the year..

"i hope with those two pulls,sella and pozzovivo will win il giro"-riccardo ricco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MoeQLdXzlbA#t=18s

grande cobra!!!

gotta say it's good to have a feud from time to time in the peloton.and i'm actually impressed by frank for having a go at rasmussen.now i'd like to see andy making a gesture to gabrovsky
really that's good stuff by razi and frank.

 

[cineteq]

@schleckfrank
Sorry that Rasmusen had to wait for an other bike and couldnt win the stage,i dislocated my sholder yesterday,i ll take it day by day

New EXCUSE ALERT

 

[DominicDecoco]

I have no idea what Frank is trying to write in those twitter messages btw. Didn't get a word of it. Just posted them.

 

[RedheadDane]

And Millar just seems to find this whole situation rather hillarious!

HOLY **** what's going on at the Giro? Are @schleckfrank & @AlexRazi going to fight? I really, really, REALLY want to watch if so.

OH SNAP! @AlexRazi just got given a mean smiley face by @schleckfrank for having a mechanical. This is on. Gentlemen, choose your weapons.

Gotta say I kinda agree that it's funny. Come on; they, Alex and Fränk, are grown men they really oughta be too old for this stuff. Not to forget that it should be possible to find some footage of whatever happened.


Or maybe they'll just opt for the teen boys' way; having a good brawl, then be mates again afterwards!

 

[ulrikmm]

Google translated for Danish TV" website:
!Frank Schleck claims that the Dane during yesterday's 11th stage with his reckless driving was to blame for that Schleck crashed. But the accusations are Alex Rasmussen is not in(Does not agree, ed.).

"Of course I intend to take hold of him (Confront him, ed.). He should not go to lie. There were plenty who saw it. And everyone knows that he is lying," says Alex Rasmussen sporten.(to ed.)tv2.dk.

Frank Schleck severely irritable
Shortly after caught sporten.tv2.dks reporter in Italy a comment from Frank Schleck who put it mildly, did not agree with Alex Rasmussen's allegations.

"I lied? Well, then get him here and then ...," said Frank Schleck, before his flow of speech was interrupted by an official from the RadioShack team, who ordered Schleck on stage first.

Frank Schleck believes that Alex Rasmussen pushed teammate Christian Vande Velde is in the middle of the field about 14 kilometers before the finish and thus even came to stand so still that RadioShack-captain had no choice but to run into him. But that's not true, says Alex Rasmussen.

Mixing two episodes together
"It's just a lie. There are at some point, maybe five minutes earlier, when I push one of my teammates away so we do not fall. Then five minutes later we come to the turn of the accident, but it is in a turn, so I can not give someone a push. "

"And then he drives into me. Then he (Frank Schleck, ed.) Above the finish line and is completely up and running and find an excuse for why he has lost time. The two incidents happening at five minute intervals. Also up in his head he mixes them together, "explains Alex Rasmussen.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

lol and what exactly had Schleck to gain from targeting Rasmussen and couldn't he have sent one of his underlings to do the dirty work for him?!

Frankie was frustrated that he was behind. He probably figured that he had to target Rasmussen to pass him. #FAIL The roads were narrow, if you recall.

Do you discount this possibility? Frankie's a bit thick, you know. Why would his teammates do that for him, though? He is no Lance Armstrong. They don't answer to him and certainly won't cause a rider to crash for him.