Schleki's won't win TDF

[La Pandera]

Exactly. Nailed it.

That is an opinion of one stage, one that is widely open to interpretation. I don't hear any responses to his 2008 Giro performance. Are we only going draw upon circumstances that support our personal opinions or are we going to look at the entire range of his performances?

 

[hrotha]

That is an opinion of one stage, one that is widely open to interpretation. I don't hear any responses to his 2008 Giro performance. Are we only going draw upon circumstances that support our personal opinions or are we going to look at the entire range of his performances?

"2008 Giro" is a pretty vague statement. Any particular examples?

 

[El Pistolero]

His record? He wins because he's the best, not because his tactics are particularly good - they're just not bad enough to outweigh his physical advantage. What did he do in the 2009 Tour that warrants saying he's good tactically? Attacking in the last kilometers of a climb with a headwind? What about the Le Grand Bornand stage? What about Morzine-Avoriaz and Mende in the 2010 Tour?

He got outclimbed on every big mountain stage in the Giro 2008 by lot's and lot's of different climbers.

He won.

 

[roundabout]

He got outclimbed on every big mountain stage in the Giro 2008 by lot's and lot's of different climbers.

He won.

He gained time in time trials.

 

[La Pandera]

"2008 Giro" is a pretty vague statement. Any particular examples?

It isn't vague if you've read my previous posts regarding Contador and the 2008 Giro.

 

[hrotha]

I don't see it.

Additionally, winning the Giro while racing with a cracked elbow, no reconn of the course, and arguably not the same level of prep as his opponents takes a level of tactical acumen and discipline. He showed both at the Giro.

Basically, this amounts to "he won, so he *must* have been good tactically".

 

[La Pandera]

I don't see it.

Basically, this amounts to "he won, so he *must* have been good tactically".

Basically your post amounts to "I'm set in my ways regardless of the facts".

 

[hrotha]

Basically your post amounts to "I'm set in my ways regardless of the facts".

What facts? I asked for specific examples of stages or moments where he showed that tactical acumen. You didn't provide any.

 

[El Pistolero]

He gained time in time trials.

And there were how many time trials compared to tough mountain stages? And one time trial was a mountain one.

He wasn't the strongest in 2008, but he DID win.