Scott Tinley's take on FLandis

[BroDeal]

I have always liked Tinley's writing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-20006114-10391697.html

 

[this_is_edie]

that was an interesting read. thanks,

"If there is a smoking gun buried underneath all of this, either way, cycling and sport more broadly take another deep bruising for behavior that is rabidly, albeit implicitly, encouraged by the public at large. Bigger, faster, stronger, more violent--it all allows us to pimp more light beer, $250 athletic shoes, and car insurance through the rise and fall of real humans with already extraordinary abilities."

 

[thehog]

A always like Tinley's writing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-20006114-10391697.html

That's a well written article. Really good.

 

[lightandlongshadows]

Interesting read, too realistic for many I suspect, as he spreads a thin layer of **** on both sides of the toast. Bread and circuses, nothing new under the sun.

 

[krebs303]

I've always enjoyed Tinley's writing.
thanks good read

 

[Race Radio]

I do not think Tinley wrote this, This is Stephan Smith

 

[patricknd]

I do not think Tinley wrote this, This is Stephan Smith

it says written by tinley. i believe smith posted it.

i thought it was a good read as well.

 

[slowoldman]

I had posted this earlier on the Flandis link thread. That is actually a more up to date revision of an earlier article he had written (the links are posted below). A friend I ride with knows Tinley really well. As people have said, it is very insightful.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=223495&postcount=26

 

[usedtobefast]

great insight.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I've always liked Scott's writing too. He wrote many good stories in Triathlete mag over the years. This part stood out to me in the article:

"UCI, the organizers of the Tour de France, the cycling media, public and every commercial team or sponsor that has invested a single Euro into cycling has Floyd Landis' blood on their hands. He walks not alone."

So true.

 

[Jimmy Riddle]

Came across to me as waffle. Where's the point?

 

[Night Rider]

Great article, thanks for the link.

 

[BroDeal]

Came across to me as waffle. Where's the point?

Tinley forgot to write the Crayola version, so I guess you are sh!t outta luck.

 

[Jimmy Riddle]

Tinley forgot to write the Crayola version, so I guess you are sh!t outta luck.

It's one of those pieces where you pick out the lines that sort of agree with what you're saying and ignore the rest, and then claim it was really profound - when it wasn't really.

 

[Rip:30]

"The whole affair is as lamentable as Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" anti-drug campaign of the late 80s. We live in a world that glamorizes tobacco, mythologizes the 60s experimentation, loads every beverage on 7 Eleven store shelves with legal amphetamines, introduces "responsible" social drinking to eight graders, and easily dispenses prescriptions for every physiological challenge from clinical depression to chronic flaccidity. And then we reward every sports hero with royalty status."

What are "legal amphetamines"? Caffeine ≠ amphetamine.

And who introduces 8th graders to social drinking besides 9th and 10th graders?

 

[Rip:30]

It's one of those pieces where you pick out the lines that sort of agree with what you're saying and ignore the rest, and then claim it was really profound - when it wasn't really.

Yup. Summary of article: life is complicated and full of conflict. (j/k).

He uses too many cause and effect hypotheses for my taste. Well organized and good use of allegory though.

 

[buckwheat]

It's one of those pieces where you pick out the lines that sort of agree with what you're saying and ignore the rest, and then claim it was really profound - when it wasn't really.

Yeah, agree. Last line he used "conscious" instead of conscience. Illustrative of the confusion of the piece.

 

[flicker]

As always written by a man who has eaten to many Big Macs. This type of writing is bland and tri atheletes do not know cycling, sorry I ride with them. Great athletes yes honest yes cyclists no.
Cycling will never become popular as long as reporters like Scott keep presenting their IHOP pancake deal on cycling. Oh the humanity....

 

[Joey_J]

It's one of those pieces where you pick out the lines that sort of agree with....

Interesting that he wrote “Cycling wants to…put thirty years of substance abuse behind it in one clean swipe”

Tinley was 3rd in the Ironman in 81 and knows the truth about the doping scene in the 80’s.

Word on the street is the “collateral damage” from the LA investigation will bring new light to the truth about blood doping and EPO use in the 80’s

 

[Benotti69]

It's one of those pieces where you pick out the lines that sort of agree with what you're saying and ignore the rest, and then claim it was really profound - when it wasn't really.

Fanboy Troll...

 

[progressor]

Very good article, which unfortunately means I agree with BD and thehog- I'm of for a very very long shower

 

[Archibald]

Last line he used "conscious" instead of conscience.

thought that was odd - either his editor is thick or I missed something with that one.

It did make me wonder though, why cheating is acceptable to people. I've never worked that one out. I've competed at international level before and knew there were people cheating at any chance they got - I've never worked out how you can stand on a podium knowing that you didn't win legitimately.
Perhaps children should be taught that cheating really isn't right - they get plenty of messed up teachings, so why not teach them something decent?

 

[nslckevin]

"The whole affair is as lamentable as Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" anti-drug campaign of the late 80s. We live in a world that glamorizes tobacco, mythologizes the 60s experimentation, loads every beverage on 7 Eleven store shelves with legal amphetamines, introduces "responsible" social drinking to eight graders, and easily dispenses prescriptions for every physiological challenge from clinical depression to chronic flaccidity. And then we reward every sports hero with royalty status."

What are "legal amphetamines"? Caffeine ≠ amphetamine.

Some of those "energy" pill packs you see on the counter at your local 7 Eleven contain substances that would cause a positive test. Not caffeine, but ephedrine types of substances.

One year at Nevada City, the race packet included some liquid energy packs. The chief official in his race instructions told us not to use them as they could lead to a positive drug test.

Anyway, all I'm saying is that there is plenty of easily available stuff that is not advertised as a "drug" that an unwary athlete could take that they shouldn't. I think that is what the original poster was talking about.

Kevin

 

[Rip:30]

Some of those "energy" pill packs you see on the counter at your local 7 Eleven contain substances that would cause a positive test. Not caffeine, but ephedrine types of substances.

One year at Nevada City, the race packet included some liquid energy packs. The chief official in his race instructions told us not to use them as they could lead to a positive drug test.

Anyway, all I'm saying is that there is plenty of easily available stuff that is not advertised as a "drug" that an unwary athlete could take that they shouldn't. I think that is what the original poster was talking about.

Kevin

Ephedra has been banned in the US since 2004. Ephedra is also not an amphetamine.

The quote about amphetamines being sold in 7 elevens came from the article and was used as part of a description of life outside of sports. I think it's untrue and over the top.

 

[ergmonkey]

Well-written? Tinley deserves the maillot jaune in the mixed metaphor Olympics.