ulrikmm said:OT, put puzzled by the username which surely invites comments:
I know where women put a wonderbra.
Where do men put a wonderlance?
And why?
You're better of not knowing.
You're better of not knowing.
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SpartacusRox said:
You may have called it but that doesn't change the fact that Radio Shack made gaining time on AC and others a critical goal on Stage 3. They not only failed in that goal, but lost time to AC and others. That is a dismal (but not fatal) failure. Doesn't matter what you or I thought was realistic going in to that stage, but what Radio Shack wanted to happen. It is nonsense to try and minimize how important Radio Shack viewed this stage. They and a host of others have spent months talking about it. To come up empty AND lose time is a pretty big deal (especially psychologically).
As for Saxo Bank, I've already called it a pyrrhic victory. They won the battle, but will likely lose the war as result of this stage.
Armstrong mis-information
The good points made coincide with RadioShack not supporting Armstrong when he punctured on the pave. The media braindead is the accusation that Lance is failing. For goodness sake - he was riding is in the proper front group on the pave' and punctured a front. There were no available wheels where he puncture and obviously no teammates. What followed was a heroic chase in which he dropped Janez and caught at least one group finishing, about 40 sec behind Contador. It could have been much better or much worse. But, Lance did not ride as an old man getting dropped. Unfortunately, in the pictureless scorebook, he's in 18th about a min behind Alberto. Can da Shack do something to rectify the citchiation?
The good points made coincide with RadioShack not supporting Armstrong when he punctured on the pave. The media braindead is the accusation that Lance is failing. For goodness sake - he was riding is in the proper front group on the pave' and punctured a front. There were no available wheels where he puncture and obviously no teammates. What followed was a heroic chase in which he dropped Janez and caught at least one group finishing, about 40 sec behind Contador. It could have been much better or much worse. But, Lance did not ride as an old man getting dropped. Unfortunately, in the pictureless scorebook, he's in 18th about a min behind Alberto. Can da Shack do something to rectify the citchiation?
Makes sense to me
I totally buy this. The team did not keep Lance in front or control the pace of the peloton. As a result, he was caught behind the crash and later left without enough help. Why else do you think RS was riding at the front of the main field the following day on a sprinters' stage? Looked like he had them practicing.
If you look at Levi's post-stage quotes from today, he mentions that the team will be working better together in the mountains. That tells you they didn't do what they needed to/were expected to on Stage 3 and now need to make up for it.
Ryo Hazuki said:
I totally buy this. The team did not keep Lance in front or control the pace of the peloton. As a result, he was caught behind the crash and later left without enough help. Why else do you think RS was riding at the front of the main field the following day on a sprinters' stage? Looked like he had them practicing.
If you look at Levi's post-stage quotes from today, he mentions that the team will be working better together in the mountains. That tells you they didn't do what they needed to/were expected to on Stage 3 and now need to make up for it.
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I think it's unreasonable of LA/Bruyneel to have expected more of the team in that stage. You'll notice Saxo had Cancellara and Breschel doing the work on the cobbles, not Fuglsang and Chris Sørensen. RadioShack only had Popovych, and he did his job just fine.
Saxo was stronger leading up to the cobbled sectors too, so I don't see how RadioShack could have entered them much more in the front than they already were.
I'm almost tempted to say Bruyneel thought he could throw a couple of potential GC contenders onto the cobbles and it'd work out somehow, but the guy's Belgian so that can't be it.
Saxo was stronger leading up to the cobbled sectors too, so I don't see how RadioShack could have entered them much more in the front than they already were.
I'm almost tempted to say Bruyneel thought he could throw a couple of potential GC contenders onto the cobbles and it'd work out somehow, but the guy's Belgian so that can't be it.
jsbikers said:
This made me smile
Before puncture... on the verge of getting dropped, his group caught from behind by Alberto, LA not at the front driving anything, LA having trouble holding Van Summeren's wheel, then Popo's wheel. That's what I saw.
Lance fought back, I'll give you that. Puncture or no puncture, LA was struggling and he said as much.
- Apr 26, 2010
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Scott SoCal said:This made me smile
Before puncture... on the verge of getting dropped, his group caught from behind by Alberto, LA not at the front driving anything, LA having trouble holding Van Summeren's wheel, then Popo's wheel. That's what I saw.
Lance fought back, I'll give you that. Puncture or no puncture, LA was struggling and he said as much.
Lance recovered on his teammates wheels and in the cover of team cars. That was on Stage 3 and he looked better today. Tomorrow should be a test of Fail/Pass.
Anybody think Radioshack will actually make an agressive move WITHOUT first seeing some sign of weakness from Contador? My feeling is that they will be playing catch-up until Contador has an issue -- which may never happen.
How about Andreas Klöden getting dropped? The Shack hasn't been the power house they want to be. Astana team is doing fine.
McClimber said:
Astana is doing fine, no arguing that.
But it's less of an issue when Leipheimer, Horner and Brajkovic are all still in the lead group.
What's more worrisome is that none of those 3 were up with Lance... they were further back. It looked like when things got strung out the most... they were holding on rather then riding easy. Lance was the only one who seemed strong.
McClimber said:
4:3 in RS favour over astana in main group today so RS are doin fine + 1 rider
i always thought that power of the team is when one rider is weak (kloden) that day there are others to fill the spot (horner,LL,brajkovic)...can astana guys do that? we ll see tomorow if RS guys are as strong as they think
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saganftw said:
Please do keep in mind Astana lost at least one rider due to the fact that they were the only ones setting a high pace on the final climb. You need to wonder how many people RS would still have, had they been the ones who needed to set the pace. There is no way of knowing and therefore it is not that easy to make these kinds of comparisons
- May 26, 2010
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so who is gonna have the most riders at the bottom of the climb out of Morzine tomorrow, Astana, RS, Saxo or other...
top teams on today's stage;
1. RABOBANK
2. BBOX BOUYGUES TELECOM
3. CAISSE D’EPARGNE
4. ASTANA
5. TEAM RADIOSHACK
6. QUICK STEP
7. TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA
8. BMC RACING TEAM
9. SKY PRO CYCLING
10. COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE
gonna be interesting....no one is gonna want to set out a train and come to the last climb with no one left to help a gc contender. Quick step will try to keep a pace to try and protect Chavanel but it won't work!
top teams on today's stage;
1. RABOBANK
2. BBOX BOUYGUES TELECOM
3. CAISSE D’EPARGNE
4. ASTANA
5. TEAM RADIOSHACK
6. QUICK STEP
7. TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA
8. BMC RACING TEAM
9. SKY PRO CYCLING
10. COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE
gonna be interesting....no one is gonna want to set out a train and come to the last climb with no one left to help a gc contender. Quick step will try to keep a pace to try and protect Chavanel but it won't work!
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Levi did a good job sucking those wheels today, maybe he can suck the life out of those wheels for the rest of the tour.....
- Apr 26, 2010
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He should have gone after Vino when he popped after giving his best for the team as Levi was told by tactical genius Bryunhell. Levi was supposed to be looking at Vino at all times very very hard.Goldberger said:
So the only moderate success by Shack and even that was a failure.
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Cobblestones said:
The fat lady, incidentally was dropped by the front group bit still managed to finish 5 minutes in front of Armstrong.
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