Shane Warne v cyclists

[daveinzambia]

My understanding is that an admission of wrongdoing is one of the things the cyclist wants as part of any out-of-court settlement.

I made the mistake of checking out the Herald-Sun to see the comments of their readers. Unfortunately most of them seem to have missed the fact that Warne was at fault and has been dodging accountability for his own actions, and were banging on about cyclists not belonging on the roads, how they should pay rego so they are accountable etc etc. A depressing read.

Heard the same on radio yesterday. Giving the same original Warne story where the bike was at fault. although did admit that Warne would have to pay because he drove away from the accident

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

I made the mistake of checking out the Herald-Sun to see the comments of their readers. Unfortunately most of them seem to have missed the fact that Warne was at fault and has been dodging accountability for his own actions, and were banging on about cyclists not belonging on the roads, how they should pay rego so they are accountable etc etc. A depressing read.

The only way to solve this is a Warne vs Evans cage fight. Evans has a good shot.

 

[42x16ss]

The only way to solve this is a Warne vs Evans cage fight. Evans has a good shot.

Does Jason Akermanis still race/ride? Put HIM in the cage with Warnie

 

[Nederick]

Maybe Shane could tangle with this guy?
Cyclist turned Driver Rager
One confused individual here.

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

Warnie is a twig now. As long as Cadel sticks to kicks he'll win.

 

[42x16ss]

Warnie is a twig now. As long as Cadel sticks to kicks he'll win.

True, but it would be cool for Warnie to get his backside handed to him by an athlete from a "real man's sport" who also happens to ride a bike. That would shut a few bogans up.

Edit: Other alternatives could include Grant Hackett, Willie Tonga, Mark Webber, Troy Corser, Casey Stoner, Will Power, Michael Slater and about 2/3's of the V8 supercar drivers....

 

[Stingray34]

Maybe Shane could tangle with this guy?
Cyclist turned Driver Rager
One confused individual here.

Linked on that page is this story of a female cyclist killed after getting doored and ending up underneath a truck. The case against the motorist who opened the door seems to hinge on the technicality that opening a door is not using a motor vehicle and that as the door didn't make contact with the cyclist, who successfully avoided it but unfortunately ended up under the wheels of a truck in the process, the motorist didn't cause the death of the woman after all. The witness seems a bit prejudiced as well, predicting the death of the woman moments before she was killed, as if her behaviour somehow deserved it.

The cyclist apparently was riding between stationary traffic to her right and parked vehicles to her left. Although this is the correct side to pass vehicles in NZ and countries such as Australia and GB, I personally don't sidle up between traffic to get to the front due to the possibility of being doored, also, as I'm part of the traffic, I behave like everyone else and wait behind a vehicle at lights. This is just me. Acting otherwise, however, doesn't give motorists a free pass to negligently maim or kill you: people in big steel death machines have a duty of care not to cause anyone else harm with said death machines, especially if their victims aren't ensconsed in the relative safety of their own big steel death machines.

But it seems people who ride bikes are less human than others in big, liberalised, post-Enlightenment Western nations and don't receive the same rights as others.

It seems that if cyclists aren't ending up underneath buses, they're metaphorically forced to ride at the back of them.

 

[Stingray34]

about 2/3's of the V8 supercar drivers....[ride bikes for fitness and are active cyclists]

This is a good point and a little-known fact. Because these dudes are such bogan heroes, their support needs to be harnessed in a cycling safety awareness campaign. If these uber-motorists support cycling on public roads, it can go a long way towards changing the aggressive anti-cyclist sentiment in a place such as Australia.

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

As much as I'd like to believe that it's not going to happen. People love their cages and turning off their brain while they drive. That's what it all boils down to really- cyclists are an inconvenience that cost them seconds- seconds on the road.

I mean sure from anecdotal experience white ute\van\truck drivers are bad but so are mums who drive suvs, elderly men who drive Camry's and in general bus drivers who think the left hand lane is their god given right to own- most of whom, who are not fans of V8 supercars.

 

[Stingray34]

As much as I'd like to believe that it's not going to happen. People love their cages and turning off their brain while they drive. That's what it all boils down to really- cyclists are an inconvenience that cost them seconds- seconds on the road.

I mean sure from anecdotal experience white ute\van\truck drivers are bad but so are mums who drive suvs, elderly men who drive Camry's and in general bus drivers who think the left hand lane is their god given right to own- most of whom, who are not fans of V8 supercars.

You're quite right - there is a large and varied demographic that aren't interested in race car drivers and largely ignore them when they appear as talking heads on TV. My idea was that V8 Supercar drivers may have some influence over a particularly aggressive class of motorists, young (and not so young) men who like and drive powerful cars.

It's not a complete solution to what is a considerable problem, but it could play a role in wider cultural change towards attitudes to cyclists. I know a few V8 race drivers are mad-keen cyclists, but I haven't heard boo from them on the topic of cycling safety and cyclists' rights, and that seems a wasted resource.

 

[Cobber]

You're quite right - there is a large and varied demographic that aren't interested in race car drivers and largely ignore them when they appear as talking heads on TV. My idea was that V8 Supercar drivers may have some influence over a particularly aggressive class of motorists, young (and not so young) men who like and drive powerful cars.

It's not a complete solution to what is a considerable problem, but it could play a role in wider cultural change towards attitudes to cyclists. I know a few V8 race drivers are mad-keen cyclists, but I haven't heard boo from them on the topic of cycling safety and cyclists' rights, and that seems a wasted resource.

This is a really good idea, but could also be targeted to a broader audience. V8 drivers, actors, various sportsmen and women (even cricketers!), supermodels etc.

 

[Ulle Relaxes]

Something on the Learner's test and Probationary test would help as well. Personally I'd just like to see all car drivers ride a bicycle in traffic to let them know how they feel