Simeoni somewhat vindicated

[Mambo95]

No, it is not a myth. Zomegnan essentially confirmed it as did Eki. No way that Xacobeo-Galicia should have gotten in ahead of Ceramica Flaminia. They did zero the entire race.

Ceramica weren't invited to any RCS races that year. They hadn't been invited to any of them in 2008 either. They just weren't good enough.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Zomegnan can snub whoever he feels like. Its his race.
Ceramica Flaminia in 2009.
Or Radio Shack in 2010.
Who will he snub this year?

BTW, RadioShack could have won the Giro in 2010.
Could Ceramica Flaminia have won in 2009? Doubt it.

Won what, the Team GC?

Oh, I see, you meant rider GC... And who is your rear-view RS winner, had they been in the race? Brakovic? Levi? Kloden? Lance?

...come now.

 

[Mellow Velo]

I see our German troll is now making fun of the Italian national championship.

The tricolore is not a free ticket to the Giro, but would anyone care to name the other recent wearers who were not invited to the race?

I'll make it easy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_National_Road_Race_Championship

 

[AngusW]

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No one really cared about Ceramica or Simeoni - except the usual suspects and the whiner himself. That laughable won jersey is no free ticket to Giro.

...snipped for brevity..

I'm guessing you mean "laughably won"? If so, why do you say it was laughably won - was the race rigged or in some way a farce? If you think that, please provide links.

 

[Benotti69]

snip...

He is a tool.
....

you're not too bad yourself

 

[Merckx index]

You get my point ? That was just one example of ca. 1000 riders who never had any problem with omerta and respected it, even liked it.

Fixed that for you.

Look, Lance is a good guy and helps/ed many people. Just don't f*** with him or you have a problem.

How is saying a doctor helped YOU dope f--cking with LA UNLESS the same doctor helped him dope? Why should LA feel affronted if he's clean?

One thing is for sure: No one really likes Kameradenschweine or betrayers.
No one who is really honest.

What in the world do you think Simeoni was betraying that made him so dishonest? Do you even listen to what you write?

Things start at a certain point. Not everyone sees theses points or they don't want to see them.
And on these points, the start and motives of a confrontation, I can understand Armstrong 100%.
If people get the script right and know all the details, they will understand most things Armstrong did.
That was mostly attacking defence after attacks.

If you have an interpretation of this statement that does not involve doping, I would love to hear it.

Right now i wonder if the German journalist tell people in their articles, that Simeoni is a caught EPO-doper, when they praise Simeoni later today.

They often forget to mention that. Makes it easier for them.

So you admit:

a) Simeoni worked with Ferrari;
b) he took EPO

And yet you completely deny the possibility of his claim, that so infuriated LA, that

c) Ferrari helped him with the EPO.

 

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[Benotti69]

i hope that threats of violence against other posters is a lifetime ban on CN forums.

 

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[Darryl Webster]

I saw an excellent post last week about "what is good ?"
I think no one really answered it.

What is good and correct for who ? Good for me ? Good for you ? Good for someone else ? Good for your money, friends or family ?

Most time, when something was good for someone, it was bad for someone else.
It will always be like that.
If you won a race and feel good - you didn't actually win a race - you kicked many peoples a** and they feel bad.
They hate you, but you feel good anyway. Don't you ?

Some very "Old Testement" views of "the way it is" there Cobblers.
The idea of so called civilisation is to rise above the instinct of self interest and share in for the commen good.
That instict to self interest , born of nescesity by the barbarism of pre civilisation living ( kill or be killed) while inate is only our friend in moments of great peril.
Such moments are rare in modern society but oh so commen in the age of barberism.
Should we abandon the the movement towards a more civilised world as a lost cause because it goes against archaic animilistic instinct?
Man is not Human if he abandons the quest to a more enlightend world but merely Man. The animal.