Bike Boy said:
@ AussieGoddess
Ever since I heard about this construction (livestrong.org and livestrong.com) about a year ago, my view on this person (Armstrong) has changed dramatically.
I haven't read through all the interesting threads yet on this forum, but I've started. Honestly I don't know exactly what to read and what not to read, so I'm very confused, but I loved your answer. Thanks to you, now I now what to look for.
Now I'm actually a bit embarrased to admit that I was a big Armstrong fan duing the winning years, and I know I share this story with a lot of people on this forum, but unlike many of them I never felt it was neccesary to convert into a hater.
I will probably always be fascinated to some degree by Armstrong's desire to beat cancer and distinguish him self in one of the toughest sports in the world, but now I have seen so much evidence suggesting that he really is a fraud.
While this "evidence" is sinking in, I get more and more sick.
I'm sick and tired of all the nonsense comming from Mr. Armstrong and his PR machine. And I have to say I hope Jeff will bring him down.
yeh I was a fan too ...

. these threads here have some good links
one (though the threads pretty long and there is a lot of crap
two (the first article linked is great)
three
Other points
- Bribing UCI - good article
here ... it asks the questions I wouldnt mind being answered.
- cheating - good article
here
essentially its saying that TdF is a team event. You cant win without a great team (attacking, dragging back breaks, support etc), so even if HE didnt dope, its proven that many of his major support riders did (at least 5 that I can think of) .... so isnt that cheating by the team anyway?
Cancer - we dont know WHAT causes cancer .... but we do know that specific drugs (tobacco, alcohol etc) DO contribute substantially. Its not a stretch by any means to suggest that testosterone, HGH, EPO etc will be a substantial contributor.
As for the testing, HCG is a hormone found in pregnant women. If a mans urine has HCG in it - there is a good chance he is either doping or has testicular cancer. They test for it as an indication of doping, so any urine sample that was collected should have been tested (is a simple dipstick into the sample which I can buy for $1 off the internet .... so no excuse for not testing for it). Any BFP (big fat posative) should have been flagged and investigated. So yes, the cancer should have been picked up if he had actually been tested.....