So what's the future of road racing in the USA?

[fabramowski]

Oh the old french hate bullsh!t...and it's combined with another fairy tale about being tried before. Uh, yeah.

It already did come to the surface. He tested positive for EPO six times.

could you explain more on this?

Oh by the way the great Eddy Merckx tested positive 3 times also.....

you can find this info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_Merckx

 

[fabramowski]

With all due respect, The Tour de France was a big event before Lance, it was a big event between Lance stints, and it will be a big event after Lance. So the US audience won't be so big. So what? Apart from Pat McQuaid, who cares? There will still be Frenchmen lining the road. The Basque country will still be a sea of orange and Basque flags. The Dutch will still make their pilgrimage to Alpe d'Huez. Lance wasn't at the Giro in 2005, did you see the crowds on the Colle delle Finestre? Or on Zoncolán just a few weeks ago?

The sport, and the spectacle, sells the events in traditional cycling homelands. The riders only sell it in countries where the sport is a minority concern. They are more easily replaced.

you need to finish my sentence, his 2 million+ followers would be lost, I'm not saying the TDF or Giro would not run, I was just saying that is a lot of people to lose intrest in cycle racing...

 

[Animal]

could you explain more on this?

Had your head in the sand for the past few years?

Or are you just not a cyclist?

 

[Animal]

Here: http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/michael-ashenden

 

[fabramowski]

Had your head in the sand for the past few years?

Or are you just not a cyclist?

I'm a cyclist, I ride and race. I think if you judge someone you should be on both sides. everyone is innocent until proven guilty....

 

[Animal]

What, like Schroedinger's cat?

 

[fabramowski]

so your saying every pro cyclist is a doper. If Eddy first tested positive in 1969 all is wins and every one elses wins were because of doping.... just saying, your either dead or alive....cat..

 

[Animal]

"your"

Twice.

I'm not continuing.

 

[fabramowski]

"your"

Twice.

I'm not continuing.

nice comeback...... you're is that better...wait your......that three no wait 3.

your (adjetive); belonging to person spoken to

refers to something that belongs to or relates to the person who is being spoken to

 

[flyor64]

so your saying every pro cyclist is a doper. If Eddy first tested positive in 1969 all is wins and every one elses wins were because of doping.... just saying, your either dead or alive....cat..

Did you seriously just misuse the word your twice here......

nice comeback...... you're is that better...wait your......that three no wait 3.

your (adjetive); belonging to person spoken to

refers to something that belongs to or relates to the person who is being spoken to

...And then "quote" the definition of "your" here, while mispelling adjective?

That's some funny sh!t right there

 

[rattler]

it seems to me that the elite level contract (w/living wage) will always be hard to secure for a rider in the usa. someone made a comment about this being a fringe sport. I agree. it's a cultural thing.
maybe in the next millinium, (yeah right), things will be different.
For the big $$ sponsors that want exposure, it's harder to cover on TV. And, like it or not.........we're a TV nation. we shouldn't think that this will change.
i'm not convinced that any doping escapades covered in the news really damage the grass roots level of bicycling racing, though.
and i'm fine w/that. i can always read the race reports instead of getting a taped feed.
Triatholon appears to be the main driving force behind the increase in popularity of racing a bicycle. That helps the retailer and the specialty shop.
So, it's gonna remain a cozy niche sport.

 

[fabramowski]

Did you seriously just misuse the word your twice here......



...And then "quote" the definition of "your" here, while mispelling adjective?

That's some funny sh!t right there

we'll sit'en at wrk an tipyng is hrd to do wen bos is wlken bye...

 

[fabramowski]

Did you seriously just misuse the word your twice here......



...And then "quote" the definition of "your" here, while mispelling adjective?

That's some funny sh!t right there

you both forgot the word else, it shoud be else's...just trying to correct my english

 

[Roland Rat]

LA's success has led to increased interest in the TdF in the US.

[snip].

you can exploit your power and influence only so far before everyone who has been bullied gets tired of it. eventually you over-estimate your influence and then they start to view an uncertain future as more desirable than a irritating present.

I agree that he had a massive influence during Comeback 1.0, but that's irrelevent now. IMO his influence during 2.0 is negligible. Garmin were already in existence and have interests in the cycling community beyond the US, same with HTC. The only difference I can see he has made to cycling during Comeback 2.0 are to his own pocket, and bringing Radioshack in... and that doesn't make any difference as it's the same old people. The good thing he has done is the Livestrong U23 squad, but again that has no connection with his return (afaik).

Ergo, his time has been and gone and his retirement will do nothing other than lose Radioshack and the people involved there, which to be honest would be a good thing anyway.

But then I might be wrong as I obviously don't see much of the US domestic scene.

 

[Benotti69]

LA's success has led to increased interest in the TdF in the US.

which one has to deduce (maybe incorrectly) an increase in tourism from usa to france.....which the french might like to keep going and therefore if uniballer got the bullet it might backfire in the french tourism faces......

the TdF for me is not as good a spectacle as the Giro, due to the fact that it so obviously flogs france to the world and sometimes the bikes seem incidental..

 

[Libertine Seguros]

you both forgot the word else, it shoud be else's...just trying to correct my english

you said "your either dead or alive."

My 'either dead or alive' what? There is no verb in that sentence. It makes no sense. You need "you are", commonly contracted to "you're". But no verb = no sense.

Actually, I prefer talking to people for whom English isn't their first language. They don't say 'of' when they mean 'have' in conditionals ("it could of happened", for example), mix "their", "there" and "they're", or use a possessive adjective when they mean a second person verb construct. It's only English-speaking people who make these mistakes because they take the language for granted.

It's infuriating to read, and when your English (note that the possessive is required here) is that poor that foreigners are easily more legible than you, it reflects poorly on your (again, possessive is appropriate) ability to reason and hold convincing debate.

 

[kurtinsc]

This thread is dead.

Anytime a thread devolves to grammar attacks... it's best that it just be locked.

It's almost as sure a death of a thread as when "Hitler" or "Nazi" starts popping up in responses. Grammar flames are about as bad as it gets.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

If people learnt how to speak their own language then it wouldn't be necessary for threads to devolve into grammar attacks.

 

[FKLance]

I know this is grammar attack, but I agree with Libertine. It's really hard to read a post that has the same mistakes 10 times, especially when you know the writer does not care and repeats them every time. English is not my first language so this makes me mad.

 

[fabramowski]

well, some of us can't sit on our *** all day in front of the computer. Is this a complete sentence? did I spell everything ok? If you don't like my spelling don't read it....(oh wait to many periods) I didn't know this was a engilish class I was here posting on.

 

[fabramowski]

If people learnt how to speak their own language then it wouldn't be necessary for threads to devolve into grammar attacks.

you said "your either dead or alive."

My 'either dead or alive' what? There is no verb in that sentence. It makes no sense. You need "you are", commonly contracted to "you're". But no verb = no sense.

Actually, I prefer talking to people for whom English isn't their first language. They don't say 'of' when they mean 'have' in conditionals ("it could of happened", for example), mix "their", "there" and "they're", or use a possessive adjective when they mean a second person verb construct. It's only English-speaking people who make these mistakes because they take the language for granted.

It's infuriating to read, and when your English (note that the possessive is required here) is that poor that foreigners are easily more legible than you, it reflects poorly on your (again, possessive is appropriate) ability to reason and hold convincing debate.

Schroedinger's cat, as posted by animal, look it up you might learn something besides READING here since I am not face to face to you to TALK to you. As you prefer talking to people for whom English isn't their first language.

 

[Roland Rat]

well, some of us can't sit on our *** all day in front of the computer. Is this a complete sentence? did I spell everything ok? If you don't like my spelling don't read it....(oh wait to many periods) I didn't know this was a engilish class I was here posting on.

 

[kurtinsc]

You all are just like HITLER with your Nazi-style grammar attacks.



There... I just shot the thread in the head a second time. Oh and too days ago I two corracted the spulleng of a paster on this bored. Sew no problim they're.

 

[MacRoadie]

well, some of us can't sit on our *** all day in front of the computer. Is this a complete sentence? did I spell everything ok? If you don't like my spelling don't read it....(oh wait to many periods) I didn't know this was a engilish class I was here posting on.

Watch your capitals at the beginning of a sentence too.

 

[fabramowski]

mybe me ebonics is better, so fuq all ya assholes who wants ta correct muh ma ****in spelling brace yourself foo'