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So where are the Colombians in the Protour?

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Escarabajo said:
I usually get highlights from this link:

http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/

I know that Señal Colombia which is the public channel everynow and then broadcast some pieces of the La Vuelta a Colombia.

http://www.senalcolombia.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=29

Other than that most of low income people from Colombia follow the sport by radio since the 50's. It is a tradition. That's how my uncle who first introduced me to cycling used to follow it in the late 70's and early 80's.:)

Thank you I will look into this!
Radio is cool... but I would understand nothing! ... and you guys scream to much if I remember it right! :D
 
Yea, I've seen a few clips of live broadcasts of the Vuelta a Colombia online - here's a couple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQrvab9C47A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-ZUZnp_JMA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnIELQXcNj8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqayhDuxBfE&feature=related

but for the most part it's the revistamundociclistico clips. Unfortunately, I consider they're not the most helpful thing for a newcomer to work from; the clips are accompanied by irritating European-style club music and with no captions or commentary it becomes difficult to work out which rider is which on the same teams which makes it difficult to follow.
 
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he was acquitted of everything regarding puerto just like contador and ll sanchez. he could proove among other things that meetings with fuentes according to some documentation were not about him by showing airplante tickets of his trips to colombia where he stayed.
 
CQ is reporting that Colombia es Pasión are looking into the requirements for a ProContinental licence for next year, following on from Scott-Marcondes César-São José Dos Campos' successful elevation to that status this year. Their main intent is to ride the Vuelta a España. Sounds very promising.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
The reason is in fact very simple. Money. Most Colombians don't like to move to Europe isolated in a team and you won't find many European teams that will take in 4 or 5 Colombians. They are by far the most naturally gifted cyclists in the world but they often chose to ride in their own country where they make a fine living and have huge fame. According to Libardo Leyton basically all the top 50 Colombian pro's/u23/juniors every year get lots of offers from European teams but they don't want to go because they are offering a lack of money(while many have families to feed) and they don't want to go alone. Don't forget that in Colombia cyclists turn pro at 17/18. There's no u23 category.

The only chance of seeing many Colombians come to Europe is by having a new huge Colombian team in Europe. And herein lies the problem. Like Brazil in football Colombia has the best riders in the world but also the worst directions and federations in the world. Last year Gianetti went to Colombia to talk about a merger with his Footon sponsor and Pro Tour license and Cafe de Colombia. However the Colombians only wanted in if they would've gotten all the rider spots and director sportif spots. Gianetti could only stay as a manager and nothing else because of his doping past. Gianetti of course refused and now he rides with a ****ty team in all the best races...

A good example is Sergio Henao. He was offered 100,000 euros by Gianetti for his first year with Footon after the merger couldn't go through he at least tried to get him. Then came orgullo Paisa that offered him more and he decided to stay in Colombia. Duarte is a great example of a talented rider that will never go to Europe unless in a Colombian team after the Selle Italia horror he went rhough. He was offered a top spot by Acqua en Sapone last year to be the substitute of the aging Garzelli but he refused...

edit: another good example how how bad colombian cycling politics are. The Colombian cycling federation were given 3 million euros for 4 years to get a good track squad up again. After 3 years there was still 2,8 million euros left and nothing was done. After the death of most recent federation director the last year has been an impresseive year for colombian trackcycling though and it may now seem they finally get it right but it goes very sloooow.

Cafe de Colombia has a huge budget and is going to be 6 million euros next year. Yes that's right! They pay tons of money for biological passport this year with no use since they won't ride any big tours or pt races. Then they pay alot of money to go to Europe a few times a year with u23 and elite teams. Stay in Hotels, transfer all their equipment including itt bikes. the races they ride outside of colombia aren't races that are being well known in europe like the Canadian races they do.


Very good post. This pretty much says it all, money is the answer.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
CQ is reporting that Colombia es Pasión are looking into the requirements for a ProContinental licence for next year, following on from Scott-Marcondes César-São José Dos Campos' successful elevation to that status this year. Their main intent is to ride the Vuelta a España. Sounds very promising.

Would love to see them in Europe.
 
Escarabajo said:
I knew something was cooking:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cafe-de-colombia-targets-tour-return

Finally.

Now we need Soler, Ardila, Serpa and Uran back.:)

good news. If the colombians are as good as people on here think (and i sure hope so) they will provide a real challenge.

As for Uran i have high hopes for him but he couldnt be at the tour on account of his difficult domestique work in the giro followed by his impressive performance in the tds (2nd up to day of tt).

After that he would have been too exhausted to make an impact.
 

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They are coming 'en masse' ...

Colombia captures the crown @ YOG in Signapore

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From Singapore, the coach of the Colombian team that won the gold medal in road cycling in the Youth Olympiad in Singapore, declared that "I lack words to express what I feel. It really all depended on all the mechanics to deliver medals and I can only thank Jessica, David, Bryan, Jonathan delivery in each of their actions. They made it possible "

For his part, Jonathan Botero said: "It is wonderful to receive a gold medal like this after struggling in all tests. The route was very tough because of the high temperature, but we could defend the podium for the gold. I thank the Coach and my teammates "
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Meanwhile, Bryan Ramirez expressed "grateful to God for having achieved and my teammates and coach for the effort we make. It was a high-level competition, with a high technical level so this is a great triumph for Colombia"
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The Colombian team roster consisted of Miss Jessica Legarda (Nariño), Jonathan Antioquenos Botero and David Oquendo and the Bogota Bryan Ramirez who were coached by Hector Perez Antioquia.

The last test, a road circuit in Singapore, was won by Belgian Boris Vallecas with 1 hour time, 5min and 42 seconds while the Colombian Botero Jonathan and Bryan Ramirez were ranked sixth and thirteen respectively to achieve the necessary score that allowed them to raise the podium for the gold medal with 154 points, accompanied by Italy to reach the silver with 171 and Holland reached the bronze with 191 units.
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Tears ....
 

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right here today

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Leonardo duque, cuarto en el G.p. de Plouay en Francia

1 123 AUS19861105 GOSS Matthew Harley THR AUS 6:37:53.
2 131 USA19840602 FARRAR Tyler GRM USA
3 86 FRA19861112 OFFREDO Yoann FDJ FRA
4 71 COL19800410 DUQUE Leonardo Fabio COF COL
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Originally Posted by Ryo Hazuki >
The reason is in fact very simple. Money. Most Colombians don't like to move to Europe isolated in a team and you won't find many European teams that will take in 4 or 5 Colombians. They are by far the most naturally gifted cyclists in the world but they often chose to ride in their own country where they make a fine living and have huge fame. According to Libardo Leyton basically all the top 50 Colombian pro's/u23/juniors every year get lots of offers from European teams but they don't want to go because they are offering a lack of money(while many have families to feed) and they don't want to go alone. Don't forget that in Colombia cyclists turn pro at 17/18. There's no u23 category.

The only chance of seeing many Colombians come to Europe is by having a new huge Colombian team in Europe. And herein lies the problem. Like Brazil in football Colombia has the best riders in the world but also the worst directions and federations in the world. Last year Gianetti went to Colombia to talk about a merger with his Footon sponsor and Pro Tour license and Cafe de Colombia. However the Colombians only wanted in if they would've gotten all the rider spots and director sportif spots. Gianetti could only stay as a manager and nothing else because of his doping past. Gianetti of course refused and now he rides with a ****ty team in all the best races...

A good example is Sergio Henao. He was offered 100,000 euros by Gianetti for his first year with Footon after the merger couldn't go through he at least tried to get him. Then came orgullo Paisa that offered him more and he decided to stay in Colombia. Duarte is a great example of a talented rider that will never go to Europe unless in a Colombian team after the Selle Italia horror he went rhough. He was offered a top spot by Acqua en Sapone last year to be the substitute of the aging Garzelli but he refused...

edit: another good example how how bad colombian cycling politics are. The Colombian cycling federation were given 3 million euros for 4 years to get a good track squad up again. After 3 years there was still 2,8 million euros left and nothing was done. After the death of most recent federation director the last year has been an impresseive year for colombian trackcycling though and it may now seem they finally get it right but it goes very sloooow.

Cafe de Colombia has a huge budget and is going to be 6 million euros next year. Yes that's right! They pay tons of money for biological passport this year with no use since they won't ride any big tours or pt races. Then they pay alot of money to go to Europe a few times a year with u23 and elite teams. Stay in Hotels, transfer all their equipment including itt bikes. the races they ride outside of colombia aren't races that are being well known in europe like the Canadian races they do.

"Duarte is a great example of a talented rider that will never go to Europe unless in a Colombian team after the Selle Italia horror he went rhough."
Well he is going Ryo and Sergio is not :eek:

Sergio Luis Henao Sigue en Orgullo Paisa para el 2011

Despite the many offers that came in the wake of his victory in the Tour of Colombia, antioqueno cyclist Sergio Luis Henao remains at least another year in his team Orgullo Paise. The 2011 season will see the young champion of the nation wearing green and white colors in Colombia and in some races abroad to which the squad led by Carlos Mario Jaramillo intend to go.
http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7921
 

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So how do people think Duarte will get on in Europe next year? I think it is the Giro that he likes the look of?? I would tip him for at least a top 10
 
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ttrider said:
So how do people think Duarte will get on in Europe next year? I think it is the Giro that he likes the look of?? I would tip him for at least a top 10

Yep me too... but I'm going to be more positive... I'll put him in my top 5... Looking forward to see his schedule next year!
 
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"Duarte is a great example of a talented rider that will never go to Europe unless in a Colombian team after the Selle Italia horror he went rhough."
Well he is going Ryo and Sergio is not :eek:

Sergio Luis Henao Sigue en Orgullo Paisa para el 2011

Despite the many offers that came in the wake of his victory in the Tour of Colombia, antioqueno cyclist Sergio Luis Henao remains at least another year in his team Orgullo Paise. The 2011 season will see the young champion of the nation wearing green and white colors in Colombia and in some races abroad to which the squad led by Carlos Mario Jaramillo intend to go.
http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7921
I really wanted Henao to go to Europe, but whatever is best for the young Colombian development is fine with me.:)
 
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I read in the forum that Café de Colombia has a budget of 6 millions of euros. And it is not truth. Teams as Loteria de Boyacá, when travelled to Europe in 2009, has a budget of 800.000 (they told in the Spanish newspaper) and they always said that Café de Colombia has more budget than them because it is the team of the Government and has the most high budget in all Colombia, buth never more than 1.200.000 euros.
 
Wasn't it Boyacá es Para Vivirla that was in Europe in 2009, not their twins at Lotería? I seem to remember Freddy Montaña in the Vuelta a Asturias, in a decisive move with Óscar Sevilla, Héctor Guerra and Samuel Sánchez. I also seem to recall them in the Subida a Urkiola, and at the Trofeu Joaquim Agostinho in Portugal that July.
 

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So where are the Colombians in the Protour? Right here 23Y and looking at a top 5 in Madrid =>

General Classification Vuelta Espana '10 after stage 8:

1. ANTON, Igor EUS 32h 28' 49''
2. RODRIGUEZ, Joaquin KAT m.t. 1º
3. NIBALI, Vincenzo LIQ + 2''
4. TONDO, Xavier CTT + 42''
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5. BRUSEGHIN, Marzio GCE + 1' 10''
6. PLAZA, Ruben GCE + 1' 15''
7. MOSQUERA, Ezequiel XAC + 1' 18''
8. ROCHE, Nicholas ALM + 1' 19''
9. VELITS, Peter THR + 1' 26''
10.VAN GARDEREN, Tejay THR + 1' 26''

11. URAN, Rigoberto GCE + 1' 28'' (Colombia)***

12. DANIELSON, Thomas GRM + 1' 42''
13. SCHLECK, Frank SAX + 1' 47''
14. GILBERT, Philippe OLO + 1' 55''
15. KARPETS, Vladimir KAT + 1' 57''
16. ARROYO, David GCE + 1' 58''
17. SASTRE, Carlos CTT + 2' 11''
18. SÁNCHEZ, Luis León GCE + 2' 21''
19. NIEVE, Mikel EUS + 2' 35''
20. MENCHOV, Denis RAB + 3' 16''

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Uran (Telefónica · Movistar · O2) - born 26 January 1987 in Urrao, Antioquia