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Imho Van Wilder is more a main asset because he is the only one able and willing to help Evenepoel into the final of a stage in GC/GT at the moment. That is reason enough why he should be valued higher. He is doing a job nobody else at the team can, and for which the team doesn't seem to have the budget otherwise. Then there is the fact that he has just as much potential as Schmid in 1 day hilly races (actually more imho), and more potential in GC's. I don't see Schmid for instance finish top 5 in Burgos tbf, and that was definitely not Van Wilder's ceiling. The team is going into the direction of GC - which is why Soudal has doubled down- that means Van Wilder is either their best GC domestique for Evenepoel, or their first in line to take the place as GC leader in other races.
That said, they are vastly different riders. I think Schmid could be a great stagehunter on all sorts of terrain. He is also a decent TT'er and i think his engine is big enough to go in long breakaways as well as doing domestique work. I think he could be a great asset to a GT team as well and have argued in the past to include him in the Giro team. He is also a lot taller and should do fine in spring classics.
Not sure if you are just trolling again, or if you actually have no idea what you are talking about. So difficult to tell.
yeah, he is. Wouldnt be a bad idea to let him lead some of the smaller stage races that Remco does not enter
That's what they did with him in Algarve this year and Burgos last year. Maybe he'll get to ride for himself in the Tour de Suisse after the Giro and Poland or Burgos during the 2nd half of the season.
Yeah, exactly…
I‘d even advise them to apply for a PCT licence now. ASO will invite them to LBL and TdF, and that‘s all Remco needs.
So Lefevere would avoid to become humiliated in the cobbled Flemish classics, again.
I think they should concentrate now on LBL and TdF, and perhaps leave MSR, RVV and Roubaix to teams who will perform better there, like for example Euskaltel, Bardiani or Bolton Equities…
Yeah, exactly…
I‘d even advise them to apply for a PCT licence now. ASO will invite them to LBL and TdF, and that‘s all Remco needs.
So Lefevere would avoid to become humiliated in the cobbled Flemish classics, again.
I think they should concentrate now on LBL and TdF, and perhaps leave MSR, RVV and Roubaix to teams who will perform better there, like for example Euskaltel, Bardiani or Bolton Equities…
Remco can win MSR. He's probably targeting it in future years, He also said he would do RVV
They can win any classic, that Remco rides...
The Wolfpack down to two... but the team is trying to look on the bright side
Thijs Zonneveld reported in his most recent podcast that Patrick Lefevere is looking for a new owner of Soudal - Quick Step. Apparently both Lefevere and Bakala would like to sell their shares in the team, and talks with 'American investors' are in an advanced stage.
Link to the podcast episode (in Dutch):
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Link to the podcast episode (in Dutch):
Podcast In het Wiel | Terugblik Tour de France Femmes: ‘Andere ploegen moeten met een antwoord komen’
Demi Vollering wint de Tour de France Femmes! Thijs Zonneveld en Hidde van Warmerdam blikken terug op de afgelopen week, met vandaag nog de afsluitende tijdrit in Pau.
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Meanwhile Remco and what is probably gonna be the core of the Vuelta team are training in the Val di Fassa, they even made in on local (Ladin) news.
Interesting. I wonder if the "investors" are billionaires looking for a toy? or companies actually looking for a marketing vehicle? It will also be interesting to see what happens with Remco. 99% of Americans have never heard of the Giro, Vuelta, or any of the monuments ... but they know the Tour de France. I think that is why Discover/Postal were so TDF centric.Thijs Zonneveld reported in his most recent podcast that Patrick Lefevere is looking for a new owner of Soudal - Quick Step. Apparently both Lefevere and Bakala would like to sell their shares in the team, and talks with 'American investors' are in an advanced stage.
Link to the podcast episode (in Dutch):
Podcast In het Wiel | Terugblik Tour de France Femmes: ‘Andere ploegen moeten met een antwoord komen’
Demi Vollering wint de Tour de France Femmes! Thijs Zonneveld en Hidde van Warmerdam blikken terug op de afgelopen week, met vandaag nog de afsluitende tijdrit in Pau.
Consequently, I would think someone from the USA coming in and buying the team would be interested in building a GC juggernaut around Remco, for the primary purpose of winning the TDF.
Furthermore, I could see a company such as Comcast (they own NBC, the group that has the american broadcast rights to the ASO races for the next 6 years) buying a team in order to sell more subscriptions to Peacock (NBC's streaming service).
The ultimate, of course, is if Trump bought the team and had them race around Europe in MAGA hats.
American investors bought several Premier League football clubs as an investment., while Americans are not known for their fondness of "soccer". I don't know how to earn money with a cycling team, but that Americans only know the Tour de France should not be a problem.
Cav to buy the team and bring in Renshaw to train Remco as a leadout man...
Interesting news, possible change of ownership at the same time as PL is criticising Ineos for trying to sign Remco. Remco is obviously the team's crown jewel right now but that goes both ways, he needs a setup capable of supporting his ambitions and uncertainty around the team ownership raises some questions.
Interesting news, possible change of ownership at the same time as PL is criticising Ineos for trying to sign Remco. Remco is obviously the team's crown jewel right now but that goes both ways, he needs a setup capable of supporting his ambitions and uncertainty around the team ownership raises some questions.
I assume the Premier League clubs actually make money (by TV, ticket sales and advertising) and furthermore, the assets of the clubs noticeably appreciate over time. An american investor in the Premier League doesn't have to attract an american audience in order to make money.
On the other hand, if the new investor is an american company (not global), then they have to be attractive to an american audience in order to make money. That implies a focus on the TDF. If the investor is a billionaire playing with his toys (think Tinkoff or IPT), then who knows what will be important, as it is mostly ego focused.
The world of cycling wont ever be quite the same the day a guy like Lefevre surrender. Lefevre, Unzue, Madiot etc, they have their flaws - but they are key players in the world we love.
No, the company needs to setup a commercially interesting team, to find sponsors for that team and make money.
American management companies are also(?) interested in buying European cycling management companies. Belgium company Squadra Sports was bought by Wasserman (USA).
Pats getting old, but It is worrying someone like Bakala would feel the need to sell.Thijs Zonneveld reported in his most recent podcast that Patrick Lefevere is looking for a new owner of Soudal - Quick Step. Apparently both Lefevere and Bakala would like to sell their shares in the team, and talks with 'American investors' are in an advanced stage.
Link to the podcast episode (in Dutch):
Podcast In het Wiel | Terugblik Tour de France Femmes: ‘Andere ploegen moeten met een antwoord komen’
Demi Vollering wint de Tour de France Femmes! Thijs Zonneveld en Hidde van Warmerdam blikken terug op de afgelopen week, met vandaag nog de afsluitende tijdrit in Pau.
New owner of Soudal - Quick Step? Sorry couldn't help myself.
MODS!?!?New owner of Soudal - Quick Step? Sorry couldn't help myself.
The sooner all three are gone the better.
What’s the value to a U.S. owner if a unknown Belgian wins the Tour? That said, I thought F1 would never appeal to Americans either.Interesting. I wonder if the "investors" are billionaires looking for a toy? or companies actually looking for a marketing vehicle? It will also be interesting to see what happens with Remco. 99% of Americans have never heard of the Giro, Vuelta, or any of the monuments ... but they know the Tour de France. I think that is why Discover/Postal were so TDF centric.
Consequently, I would think someone from the USA coming in and buying the team would be interested in building a GC juggernaut around Remco, for the primary purpose of winning the TDF.
Furthermore, I could see a company such as Comcast (they own NBC, the group that has the american broadcast rights to the ASO races for the next 6 years) buying a team in order to sell more subscriptions to Peacock (NBC's streaming service).
The ultimate, of course, is if Trump bought the team and had them race around Europe in MAGA hats.
It's amazing Bakala and his sidekick Kok lasted as long as they did. They bought in expecting a breakaway league.
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