Can someone answer this question why Spaniards names now have become double barrel? ie "Sastre" is now "Sastre Candel" and so on through them all.
Did I miss something? obviously I have![Confused :confused: :confused:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Did I miss something? obviously I have
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craig1985 said:So what happens if there is a one night stand and the father does a runner and is never seen again, does the child take on his/her mother's surname?
Jamsque said:In most European countries the tradition with surnames is that wives take their husband's name and children take their father's.
I may not be 100% correct but I am pretty sure that in Spain, the tradition is for wives to keep their own surnames when they marry and children to take their father's first surname and their mother's second surname. Thus, Spanish people have one surname that comes from their father's male ancestors and one that comes from their mother's female ancestors. In the example you gave, Sastre is his father's first surname and Candil is his mother's second surname.
[edit]Beaten like a Spanish sprinter.
craig1985 said:So what happens if there is a one night stand and the father does a runner and is never seen again, does the child take on his/her mother's surname?
Mambo95 said:It makes you wonder about Rigoberto Uran Uran's parents.
Or maybe they were big Simon Le Bon fans.
(Yes, I know he's Colombian, not Spanish)
Libertine Seguros said:It's not really mind-boggling; it's the same principle.
Spanish: Forename Father's name Mother's name
Portuguese: Forename Mother's name Father's name
where the bolded name is the one that carries on to the next generation. They both use exactly the same principle, just opposite order.
icefire said:Simon Le Bon Fans![]()
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It doesn't matter. Spanish speaking countries in America use to follow the Spanish custom. And chances are that both parents share their surname without being close relatives.
But that second surname is the one that I bolded, therefore it's the one that transfers across generations, and then you take the second one of those (your father's), and so forth and so on.icefire said:Correct. It's the same principle, but to make the transfer across generations work, Portuguese must take the second surname of their parents, whereas Spaniards take the first one. It's not just switching the order.
Libertine Seguros said:But that second surname is the one that I bolded, therefore it's the one that transfers across generations, and then you take the second one of those (your father's), and so forth and so on.
Argentina is an exception to the rule here.icefire said:Simon Le Bon Fans![]()
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It doesn't matter. Spanish speaking countries in America use to follow the Spanish custom. And chances are that both parents share their surname without being close relatives.
L'arriviste said:OT, but 45% of Koreans share just three surnames (Kim, Lee, Park). Worse, Koreans are clannish so it is generally frowned upon to marry someone with the same surname.
This same devotion to clannish purity means that deed poll name changes or simply creating "new" surnames are unpalatable ideas, so the problem facing many young, nubile Koreans is insoluble.![]()
ViaPagliano said:I think this totally applied in the old days ... It's based on geography from what I know.