SRAM Wireless

[jmdirt]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/tour-de-france/spotted-sram-wireless-drivetrain-on-ag2r-la-mondiale-bikes_376345

It would be funny if someone developed a remote app so you can change you buddy or competitor's gears! It could make for some good laughs on a group rides, and for some interesting things going on in the team cars at races!

 

[winkybiker]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/tour-de-france/spotted-sram-wireless-drivetrain-on-ag2r-la-mondiale-bikes_376345

It would be funny if someone developed a remote app so you can change you buddy or competitor's gears! It could make for some good laughs on a group rides, and for some interesting things going on in the team cars at races!

The functional benfit of using wireless systems to connect 4 devices which effectively remain in the same position relative to each other at all times and are connected by handy hollow tubes seems limited. A solution in search of a problem, if ever there was one. We live with the foibles of wireless for things that are moveable (phones, TV remotes, iPads, etc) but this SRAM approach makes about as much sense as a remote control for a microwave oven.

 

[jmdirt]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/tour-de-france/spotted-sram-wireless-drivetrain-on-ag2r-la-mondiale-bikes_376345

It would be funny if someone developed a remote app so you can change you buddy or competitor's gears! It could make for some good laughs on a group rides, and for some interesting things going on in the team cars at races!

The functional benfit of using wireless systems to connect 4 devices which effectively remain in the same position relative to each other at all times and are connected by handy hollow tubes seems limited. A solution in search of a problem, if ever there was one. We live with the foibles of wireless for things that are moveable (phones, TV remotes, iPads, etc) but this SRAM approach makes about as much sense as a remote control for a microwave oven.

Pretty much all appliances have network connectivity so you can control them from anywhere that you have phone service.

Anyway, my original post was less about Wireless SRAM and more about the fun that can be had hacking it!

 

[StinkFist]

A solution in search of a problem

IMHO - a perfect description of Electronic / Wireless shifting in general.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/tour-de-france/spotted-sram-wireless-drivetrain-on-ag2r-la-mondiale-bikes_376345

It would be funny if someone developed a remote app so you can change you buddy or competitor's gears! It could make for some good laughs on a group rides, and for some interesting things going on in the team cars at races!

The functional benfit of using wireless systems to connect 4 devices which effectively remain in the same position relative to each other at all times and are connected by handy hollow tubes seems limited. A solution in search of a problem, if ever there was one. We live with the foibles of wireless for things that are moveable (phones, TV remotes, iPads, etc) but this SRAM approach makes about as much sense as a remote control for a microwave oven.

Another 'similar but different' from the knuckleheads who brought hydraulic road calipers to market..genius, just ask Cav. RH lever to lower gear, LH lever to higher gear, BOTH to big ring, BOTH again to small ring. No shifting front and back at the same time, thanks. How intuitive. WE'll see how reliable those wee 2032 batteries last..and see if we see another 'bike toss' from the Ag2r boys.

And wrenches(you poor slobs), when you are trying to adjust the front der...how do you spin cranks and shift to the big ring?? Junquola.

 

[StinkFist]

Zipp & SRAM definitely not on Bustedknuckle's Christmas Card list this year.

 

[42x16ss]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/tour-de-france/spotted-sram-wireless-drivetrain-on-ag2r-la-mondiale-bikes_376345

It would be funny if someone developed a remote app so you can change you buddy or competitor's gears! It could make for some good laughs on a group rides, and for some interesting things going on in the team cars at races!

The functional benfit of using wireless systems to connect 4 devices which effectively remain in the same position relative to each other at all times and are connected by handy hollow tubes seems limited. A solution in search of a problem, if ever there was one. We live with the foibles of wireless for things that are moveable (phones, TV remotes, iPads, etc) but this SRAM approach makes about as much sense as a remote control for a microwave oven.

Another 'similar but different' from the knuckleheads who brought hydraulic road calipers to market..genius, just ask Cav. RH lever to lower gear, LH lever to higher gear, BOTH to big ring, BOTH again to small ring. No shifting front and back at the same time, thanks. How intuitive. WE'll see how reliable those wee 2032 batteries last..and see if we see another 'bike toss' from the Ag2r boys.

And wrenches(you poor slobs), when you are trying to adjust the front der...how do you spin cranks and shift to the big ring?? Junquola.

Please tell me SRAM aren't seriously releasing this??? April 1st was 3 months ago

Problem is, most of the guys who will buy this stuff will be freds and tri geeks who won't realise how difficult it is to work on. I feel sorry for the 18-21 y.o. kids on the small domestic/development teams who have to look after their own training bike.

I'm getting chills just thinking about this stuff getting installed on one of those new Specialized aero frames. Glad I stopped wrenching years ago!

 

[StinkFist]

SRAM need a "game-changer".....but this isn't it.

Maybe their approach is to have a "first to market" product that reinvigorates interest and draws attention?

 

[winkybiker]

I want someone in our club to get it. I want to see their reaction when they go to shift to the small ring on a steep ramp, but (because they were already in the small ring but didn't check) it instantly slams them up into the big ring instead! Hilarity ensues when they find themselves in a 53x14 instead of the 39x19 they expected (and now need two shifts, that can't be performed simultaneously, to recover)!

 

[StinkFist]

I want someone in our club to get it. I want to see their reaction when they go to shift to the small ring on a steep ramp, but (because they were already in the small ring but didn't check) it instantly slams them up into the big ring instead! Hilarity ensues when they find themselves in a 53x14 instead of the 39x19 they expected (and now need two shifts, that can't be performed simultaneously, to recover)!

Yeah, and for perhaps this reason there is speculation of a whole new shifting method on the wireless levers.
The shift-levers appear to feature an entirely new shape than SRAM levers of years past. The hoods look more smoothly shaped and don’t extend as high as early hydraulic brake models. The levers are also notable because there is only one paddle present, which is similar to the DoubleTap design. This begs the question as to how a rider shifts in either direction. There has been speculation that an entirely new shifting method is used on the new levers, though that is unconfirmed.

 

[winkybiker]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/tour-de-france/spotted-sram-wireless-drivetrain-on-ag2r-la-mondiale-bikes_376345

It would be funny if someone developed a remote app so you can change you buddy or competitor's gears! It could make for some good laughs on a group rides, and for some interesting things going on in the team cars at races!

The functional benfit of using wireless systems to connect 4 devices which effectively remain in the same position relative to each other at all times and are connected by handy hollow tubes seems limited. A solution in search of a problem, if ever there was one. We live with the foibles of wireless for things that are moveable (phones, TV remotes, iPads, etc) but this SRAM approach makes about as much sense as a remote control for a microwave oven.

Pretty much all appliances have network connectivity so you can control them from anywhere that you have phone service.

Anyway, my original post was less about Wireless SRAM and more about the fun that can be had hacking it!

Well yes, being able to remotely control appliances such with your phone is perhaps a good idea if that's useful to you. But SRAM have designed a system that uses wireless to connect things that are already attached to each other. But admittedly wireless shifting would be useful if, for example, I wanted change gears from inside the cafe while my bike was outside .

 

[winkybiker]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/tour-de-france/spotted-sram-wireless-drivetrain-on-ag2r-la-mondiale-bikes_376345

It would be funny if someone developed a remote app so you can change you buddy or competitor's gears! It could make for some good laughs on a group rides, and for some interesting things going on in the team cars at races!

The functional benfit of using wireless systems to connect 4 devices which effectively remain in the same position relative to each other at all times and are connected by handy hollow tubes seems limited. A solution in search of a problem, if ever there was one. We live with the foibles of wireless for things that are moveable (phones, TV remotes, iPads, etc) but this SRAM approach makes about as much sense as a remote control for a microwave oven.

Pretty much all appliances have network connectivity so you can control them from anywhere that you have phone service.

Anyway, my original post was less about Wireless SRAM and more about the fun that can be had hacking it!

The nice thing about this system is that the "double tap" idiocy will ensure that there will be plenty of hilarious mis-shifts even without such a malicious app.

Well yes, being able to remotely control appliances such with your phone is perhaps a good idea if that's useful to you. But SRAM have designed a system that uses wireless to connect things that are already attached to each other. But admittedly wireless shifting would be useful if, for example, I wanted change gears from inside the cafe while my bike was outside .

 

[Boeing]

Re:

Zipp & SRAM definitely not on Bustedknuckle's Christmas Card list this year.

well he has to attack product to bring legitimacy to his knowledge base and business model...so...typical of the wrench benders. business must be booming

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

Zipp & SRAM definitely not on Bustedknuckle's Christmas Card list this year.

well he has to attack product to bring legitimacy to his knowledge base and business model...so...typical of the wrench benders. business must be booming

It's hardly BKs fault that SRAMs road groups are junk and Zipp have been going backwards for a few years now

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Re: Re:

Zipp & SRAM definitely not on Bustedknuckle's Christmas Card list this year.

well he has to attack product to bring legitimacy to his knowledge base and business model...so...typical of the wrench benders. business must be booming

I don't own a business. But I would rather be OOB than sell any spam junk.

 

[jmdirt]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/tour-de-france/spotted-sram-wireless-drivetrain-on-ag2r-la-mondiale-bikes_376345

It would be funny if someone developed a remote app so you can change you buddy or competitor's gears! It could make for some good laughs on a group rides, and for some interesting things going on in the team cars at races!

The functional benfit of using wireless systems to connect 4 devices which effectively remain in the same position relative to each other at all times and are connected by handy hollow tubes seems limited. A solution in search of a problem, if ever there was one. We live with the foibles of wireless for things that are moveable (phones, TV remotes, iPads, etc) but this SRAM approach makes about as much sense as a remote control for a microwave oven.

Pretty much all appliances have network connectivity so you can control them from anywhere that you have phone service.

Anyway, my original post was less about Wireless SRAM and more about the fun that can be had hacking it!

Well yes, being able to remotely control appliances such with your phone is perhaps a good idea if that's useful to you. But SRAM have designed a system that uses wireless to connect things that are already attached to each other. But admittedly wireless shifting would be useful if, for example, I wanted change gears from inside the cafe while my bike was outside .

You're missing my point, the fun is in me sitting in the cafe and changing your gears as you ride by!

 

[hubullkins]

I heard a rumor that both shifters operate both derailleurs!? Like, the left shifter moves you to the big ring and toward the 11t cog, and the right shifter moves you to the small ring and toward the 25t cog. Crazy, but I wonder if it will be better once you're used to it.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Re:

I heard a rumor that both shifters operate both derailleurs!? Like, the left shifter moves you to the big ring and toward the 11t cog, and the right shifter moves you to the small ring and toward the 25t cog. Crazy, but I wonder if it will be better once you're used to it.

Both at the same time to get to big ring, again both to get to small. RH lever for lower gear, LH lever for higher gear, is how it works.

Wonky.

 

[winkybiker]

Re: Re:

I heard a rumor that both shifters operate both derailleurs!? Like, the left shifter moves you to the big ring and toward the 11t cog, and the right shifter moves you to the small ring and toward the 25t cog. Crazy, but I wonder if it will be better once you're used to it.

Both at the same time to get to big ring, again both to get to small. RH lever for lower gear, LH lever for higher gear, is how it works.

Wonky.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have realised how stupid this system is and reviewing the whole thing. Testing it with the pros would have given them some much-needed and frank feedback. The SRAM marketers need to be sacked and replaced with engineers if the company is to survive.

 

[42x16ss]

Re: Re:

I heard a rumor that both shifters operate both derailleurs!? Like, the left shifter moves you to the big ring and toward the 11t cog, and the right shifter moves you to the small ring and toward the 25t cog. Crazy, but I wonder if it will be better once you're used to it.

Both at the same time to get to big ring, again both to get to small. RH lever for lower gear, LH lever for higher gear, is how it works.

Wonky.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have realised how stupid this system is and reviewing the whole thing. Testing it with the pros would have given them some much-needed and frank feedback. The SRAM marketers need to be sacked and replaced with engineers if the company is to survive.

I'm not so sure, this IS Sram...

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

sram is an acronym comprising the names of its founders, scott, ray, and sam

 

[King Boonen]

Should have dropped Ray...

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Re:

sram is an acronym comprising the names of its founders, scott, ray, and sam

Thought it was scott, paul and sam..or scott, chris and sam..

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

ray is the middle name of the company head stan day

stan ray day

i'll stick with shimano
founder shozaburo shimano
current ceo yozo shimano
keep it tight
in the family

founded 1921
employ almost 13000 people worldwide
2014 revenue declared at over $2.5 billion

 

[ray j willings]

I think there is def some kind of snobbery against Sram. My least favourite is Campy it makes that click sound.
My friend Adi rides it, super record. Its so noisy click click click. He finds the noise reassuring.
It's just not my cup of tea. Got a middle aged golf man vibe about. Looks nice. Looks better like this
mash up of campy and Red [scroll down page]

http://www.forum.light-bikes.de/showthread.php?t=23057&page=7