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I have a weird memory from 2007 of riders doing a sitting protest against doping during the Tour on top of whatever mountain they were on.

(This was the only race I watched before 2020 Imola)

Did this protest actually happen or has my mind made it up?

(I remember Vino and Astana sent home and later on Rasmussen kyllingen sent home.)

Edit: I should just have youtube searched sry. I just found it. I have always thought I dreamed that up!

 
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Well, July should be interesting. Will anyone find a few more percent other than grand-ol-pog?

I am waiting for pog to crash ... because he breaks his bike from too much power

Teddy in his apartment recorded by a disguised journalist:

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So in the bad old days we used to chuckle at the uphill breaking in switchbacks because it was just so over the top - like, OMG how are they going this fast? It became pretty challenging to suspend disbelief. But, it was still so novel.

Now, when there is such speed going up that there are again control issues with the bike, we are getting platitudes and explanations of how that could be legitimately possible.

If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck ...
 
TB500/Peptides named as in-use substances, does anyone know the unnamed individual at Ineos, can't be too hard to figure it out?
My first tentative guess, based on the information given in the article and, indirectly, by Hajo Seppelt and one member of the RTW podcast in the latest episode of said podcast, would be David Rozman, Head Carer. I've considered others, like Christian Knees, Dirk Tenner, and Marko Dzalo, but to me, Rozman seems the most likely thus far. That being said, I haven't checked all staff members, far from it. So this is very, very tentative.
 
UCI saying they are adding data to detect doping. They are wagging their finger and saying they are serious this time

Also, they are using video to detect moto GP. This one, they may actually be serious about. the doping is one thing, moto GP makes it an entirely different sport
 
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UCI saying they are adding data to detect doping. They are wagging their finger and saying they are serious this time

Also, they are using video to detect moto GP. This one, they may actually be serious about. the doping is one thing, moto GP makes it an entirely different sport
The article: https://www.uci.org/pressrelease/th...technological-fraud-at/30pxlVPuoTro51T7eNZxFQ

I wonder what drives them to reveal this? Do they reveal the details as a deterrent? Or do they only want to improve their image towards the press and public because people start to ask questions? What do these guys actually know or suspect and don't want us to know?
 
The article: https://www.uci.org/pressrelease/th...technological-fraud-at/30pxlVPuoTro51T7eNZxFQ

I wonder what drives them to reveal this? Do they reveal the details as a deterrent? Or do they only want to improve their image towards the press and public because people start to ask questions? What do these guys actually know or suspect and don't want us to know?

makes them look like they are doing something so the marks can say the 3 aliens are actually clean (ignore that they all smash Pantani's record climbing times)

The only thing they really care about is motors
 
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My first tentative guess, based on the information given in the article and, indirectly, by Hajo Seppelt and one member of the RTW podcast in the latest episode of said podcast, would be David Rozman, Head Carer. I've considered others, like Christian Knees, Dirk Tenner, and Marko Dzalo, but to me, Rozman seems the most likely thus far. That being said, I haven't checked all staff members, far from it. So this is very, very tentative.
I believe that could be right, I considered Knees also but they mentioned the guy was not that tall (which knees is). I couldn't find any reference to Rozman being an employee at Milram though. It would certainly put this article into perspective.

Special bond seals friendship behind the scenes​

Froome’s ‘carer’ has so much respect for rider he named son after him


Care package: David Rozman’s healing hands help to keep Chris Froome going all the way to the finishing line in the Tour de France
SCOTT MITCHELL
David Walsh
Sunday July 24 2016, 12.01am, The Sunday Times
You won’t have heard of David Rozman. He comes from Kranj in Slovenia. It is Slovenia’s fourth- largest city, less than 13 miles north of the capital Ljubljana. To him, Kranj is more town than city. He still lives there with his wife Manja and their two boys, Kris and Ian.
Rozman is the eldest of six children. When he looks back he sees nothing but smiling faces. Fun drawn from the simplest things. Janez, his father, worked for a rental company and didn’t make much money. They had nothing but they had more than enough. David says he never saw his parents argue.
Janez rose every day at 4am, got the boys up at 4.30am and by 5am they were on their early morning training ride. Dad and the boys. On their return, Janez made breakfast so that his wife, Ana, could have another hour in bed.
At 7.30pm each day the family gathered for prayers. Devoutly Catholic, they talked about their day and each child would tell of something good that happened and thank God for making it possible. Wrongs, they admitted to those, too, and when appropriate apologised to their siblings. Rozman recalls one evening when his brother Janez thanked God “for enabling me to drop David on the climb today”.

Nobody spends more one-on-one time with Froome than his massage therapist
They all did well at school because Janez and Ana had a simple rule. All privileges were suspended if grades fell. The boys wouldn’t be permitted to ride their bikes. So they were good students. David went to the University of Ljubljana’s sports facility and studied to be a sports teacher.
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Less than two years later his father was moved from the rental company’s garage. His wages fell to €500-a-month. Even in Slovenia, that’s not much for a man with a wife and six children — Ana had given up her job after the arrival of Urska, the couple’s third child.
Two years into his course David felt his education was a luxury his family couldn’t afford. As the eldest child it was his responsibility to support his parents financially. He got a job with a Slovenian cycling team, helping with massage. They told him he had magic hands and though it wasn’t what he’d wanted to do, the money was needed.
One team led to another until he landed a job with Team Sky. That was five years ago. For more than four-and-a-half years, he has been Chris Froome’s soigneur and perhaps his most trusted confidante in the team. Rozman spends about 200 days per year with the team.
Much of the time is spent looking after Froome and on a race like the Tour de France, nobody spends more one-on-one time with the rider than his massage therapist.
In the old days they were referred to as soigneurs and often their roles involved more than massage. Some carried banned products for their riders, advised on dosages and administered injections. Team Sky prefers the word “carer” and that is how Rozman describes what he does.
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He first met Froome at a Majorca training camp in 2011. “On the massage table he had this soft voice and was saying ‘Thank you’ all the time. I’d never seen a rider like this before. Not even a person like this. You can’t imagine the impression this made on me. That’s where it all started.”
You may think Rozman is too close to Froome to offer an objective view. I’ve known him for three years and consider him intelligent and honest. “Towards the end of 2011, he and Richie Porte went to Sean Yates [then a Team Sky sports director] and asked that I look after them. Sean told me, ‘You’re doing Chris and Richie’.”
Arrested by Froome’s politeness in Majorca, Rozman felt that at times it was too much. “At the feed zone in races I’d hand him a musette and he would say thank you. In the evening I’d tell him, ‘Please stop saying thank you, that’s my job. Take the musette and concentrate on your job.’ The next day he takes the musette, says thank you and as he’s riding away and he’s looking back, ‘Sorry, I forgot,’ and I’m thinking he’s going to crash because he wasn’t the best at handling his bike in the bunch.”

If he is lying, I will never again believe in the human race. I would stop working in cycling if that turned out to be the case
Little things struck Rozman. The way Froome would crush the tin foil used to wrap his rice cakes during races, always putting it into his jersey pocket rather than chucking it. When Froome crashed before the start of the first stage of the 2013 Tour in Corsica, Rozman made the biggest mistake of his professional life.
Froome grazed his right thigh in the fall and Rozman used an ice-cool spray on the wound. It was a product he hadn’t used before and he burnt Froome’s skin. The skin burned before their eyes.
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For the entirety of that Tour, which Froome won, Rozman couldn’t touch the thigh and quad. It was that bad. “If I was Chris I would have sacked me. He just got on with it. Same at the end of that Tour, he asked me to do the criteriums with him. First day we’re heading to Holland, I have my wife Manja and little Kris with us. We’re in a car park, I take his bike and put it on the roof. We leave the car park but I haven’t noticed the steel frame at the exit and the top bar smashes the bike. I’m shaking. Chris looks at the bike, says it’s only the handlebars and pulls them back to where they should be.
“He gets them sort of straight and says, ‘They’re fine.’ That evening the criterium circuit had cobbles. I prayed he wouldn’t crash.”
Kris Rozman, now three, got his name from where you might now expect. “It had nothing to do with what Chris has done as a cyclist. If that was it, I’d have a little Lance at home. It is the person I look up to, not the cyclist.
“My wife said, ‘If you want to name him after Chris because of the person he is, that’s OK.’

“She also said, ‘One day you may have a fight with Chris Froome, or something will happen, and maybe you will want to reconsider our son’s name but it will be too late then.’ I said no, that won’t happen.”
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He knows there are those who think Froome must be doping. “If I was on the outside I might think that. I know he’s honest. Little things. He would forget his sunglasses, and say, ‘David, could you go to my room and get the sunglasses? They’re in my suitcase.’ He is always open, never has to hide anything. When you massage a rider, there is just a towel and a naked body. You would see the mark of a needle. I would know.
“It’s one of those moral things, he is so against it. If he is lying, I will never again believe in the human race. I would stop working in cycling if that turned out to be the case. I know that’s not going to happen.”
Rozman tells a story about his family. He left the Tour before the first stage. His youngest brother Bernard was ordained as a priest back in Kranj and he wanted to be there. On the evening before, with all the family present, the youngest, Lucija, presented Bernard with a copy of the Bible, handwritten in calligraphic style. For two years she had got up at 4am and devoted two hours to her task. It came to 1,700 pages. Bernard knew nothing of what his sister was doing. “You should have seen the look on his face, on all our faces,” David says.
 
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I'd be more interested in what guys are stuffing into themselves at Spanish "altitude training" camps. Are they still not testing at weekends?
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/to...iour-in-continued-fight-against-motor-doping/
Was going to post this to the motor doping thread, but it alligns too well with the articles headline: Tour de France judges to study video for 'suspicious behaviour' in continued fight against motor doping. I think they could start with this one.

View: https://x.com/triviumcolombia/status/1940519597482168687?s=19


Maybe there's a logical explanation for that, but the momentum of the back wheel sure looks weird, when it should stop spinning on contact to the tarmac. Not sure if it was Eertvelts or the other Lotto riders bike, cause in the aftermath they where both down.
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Was going to post this to the motor doping thread, but it alligns too well with the articles headline: Tour de France judges to study video for 'suspicious behaviour' in continued fight against motor doping. I think they could start with this one.

View: https://x.com/triviumcolombia/status/1940519597482168687?s=19


Maybe there's a logical explanation for that, but the momentum of the back wheel sure looks weird, when it should stop spinning on contact to the tarmac. Not sure if it was Eertvelts or the Lotto riders bike, cause in the aftermath they where both down.
It does look rather non-physical. Together with Hejsedal and a couple of other sequences, this one is a keeper.
 
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I believe that could be right, I considered Knees also but they mentioned the guy was not that tall (which knees is). I couldn't find any reference to Rozman being an employee at Milram though. It would certainly put this article into perspective.


"David Rožman ended his cycling career in 2004. Wanting to stay in the sport, he immediately started working as a soigneur. He worked with the Slovenian national team and Slovenian clubs Sava and Adria Mobil. In 2008, he moved to the German professional team Milram. When the team folded in 2010, he began searching for a new employer. Rožman found one at Team Sky (now Ineos), where two riders who had worked with him at Milram and Slovenian mechanic Filip Tišma put in a good word for him."
 
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